NPR

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:53 am**

Slick wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:31 pm
Cartman wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:58 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:58 pm

This keeps getting repeated. Better stats in the 6Ns in defence than the other wingers on tour.
Cant see him getting picked above LRZ and Adams personally
I agree he is great on attack and he does things other wings can't, like clear out rucks but he was exposed a few times on defence in the Six Nations
I'm sure he'll get better though
LRZ isn’t close to being in the test team IMO. He has a good chance of being a top player but I just don’t see it at the moment.

I also can’t see Adams and IrnDu on the wings unfortunately. Adams must be a shoo in now but they will pick someone better under the high ball on the other wing - Williams or Watson

Picked up something on the BBC about LRZ being taken off late in the game with a hamstring issue - I don’t know if it was just a precaution. Not saying it justifies his place in the Test team but he’s a good kicker.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:26 am**

assfly wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:43 am
Blake wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:39 am If they dropped Bosch and actually hold onto the ball, they might be competitive this time.
It's not like they didn't create chances on Wednesday.

It was a very bad Sharks performance.
Exactly. I felt we left a few tries out there.

Perhaps now that the nerves are gone, expectations are low and they know what is going to come at them, they might actually have a better change this time.

If we can improve on the accuracy of the passes, I'll be a bit happier.

It was frustrating to see Kok make the break and then throw a wild hail-mary with the tryline beckoning.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:35 am**

Sards wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:36 am
PCPhil wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:53 am
assfly wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:33 am Call me mad, but I think the Sharks will win this by 4 points.
I also think that the Sharks will improve on their Weds points tally by 4.
You have to understand that we have never seen that starting side for the Sharks. Take 10 starting players put of a side and there is scrambling to put a side together. I expect a tougher match

I like your user sig. to paraphrase before this match, “will no one think of the children?”

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:40 am**

assfly wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:33 am Call me mad, but I think the Sharks will win this by 4 points.

The side effects of the vaccine?

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:42 am**

1. Nthuthuko Mchunu

2. Kerron van Vuuren

3. Wiehahn Herbst

4. Le Roux Roets

5. Reniel Hugo

6. Dylan Richardson

7. Mpilo Gumede

8. Phepsi Buthelezi (c)

9. Jaden Hendrikse

10. Lionel Cronje

11. Thaakir Abrahams

12. Murray Koster

13. Werner Kok

14. Marnus Potgieter

15. Anthony Volmink

Replacements

16. Dan Jooste

17. MJ Majola

18. Khutha Mchunu

19. Thembelani Bholi

20. Jeandre Labuschagne

21. Cameron Wright

22. Boeta Chamberlain

23. Jeremy Ward

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:45 am**

assfly wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:33 am Call me mad, but I think the Sharks will win this by 4 points.

You're mad.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:51 am**

handyman wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:45 am You're mad.

Have you seen our flyhalf for the match? I'm going to change my winning margin to 5 points.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:52 am**

Will the BIL have a full sqaud to choose from or are the same players restricted as Wednesday?

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:51 am**

Sharks: 15 Anthony Volmink, 14 Marnus Potgieter, 13 Werner Kok, 12 Murray Koster, 11 Thaakir Abrahams, 10 Lionel Cronje, 9 Jaden Hendrikse, 8 Phepsi Buthelezi (captain), 7 Mpilo Gumede, 6 Dylan Richardson, 5 Reniel Hugo, 4 Le Roux Roets, 3 Wiehahn Herbst, 2 Kerron van Vuuren, 1 Ntuthuko Mchunu.
Replacements – from: 16 Dan Jooste, 17 MJ Majola, 18 Khutha Mchunu, 19 Thembelani Bholi, 20 Jeandre Labuschagne, 21 Cameron Wright, 22 Boeta Chamberlain, 23 Jeremy Ward, 24 Lourens Adriaanse, 25 Rynhardt Jonker, 26 Curwin Bosch.

Date: Saturday, July 10
Venue: Lofus Versfeld, Pretoria
Kick-off: 18.00 (17.00 BST; 16.00 GMT)
Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
Assistant referees: Jaco Peyper, AJ Jacobs
TMO: Stuart Berry

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:59 am**

assfly wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:51 am
handyman wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:45 am You're mad.
Have you seen our flyhalf for the match? I'm going to change my winning margin to 5 points.

That's the spirit!.

Go Tjarks!

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:00 pm**

Slick wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:52 am Will the BIL have a full sqaud to choose from or are the same players restricted as Wednesday?

I saw somewhere there is only 1 doubtfull, waiting for tests

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:04 pm**

Slick wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:52 am Will the BIL have a full sqaud to choose from or are the same players restricted as Wednesday?

Subject to further PCR test results (in fact the whole match is theoretically still at risk)

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:01 pm**

LIONS

15. Liam Williams (Scarlets, Wales) #833

14. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, England) #816

13. Elliot Daly (Saracens, England) #822

12. Chris Harris (Gloucester Rugby, Scotland) #844

11. Duhan van der Merwe (Worcester Warriors, Scotland) #841

10. Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints, Wales) #821

9. Gareth Davies (Scarlets, Wales) #850

1. Rory Sutherland (Worcester Warriors, Scotland) #840

2. Jamie George – captain (Saracens, England) #819

3. Tadhg Furlong (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #818

4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, England) #825

5. Jonny Hill (Exeter Chiefs, England) #845

6. Tadhg Beirne (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #838

7. Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby, Scotland) #847

8. Jack Conan (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #839

Replacements:

16. Ken Owens (Scarlets, Wales) #829

17. Wyn Jones (Scarlets, Wales) #842

18. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, England) #814

19. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, England) #826

20. Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, England) #849

21. Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, England) #853

22. Conor Murray (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #790

23. Finn Russell (Racing 92, Scotland) #835

Looks pretty close to what I would pick in the forwards for the test 23.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:03 pm**

I see the work that 'pretty' is doing there

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:03 pm**

Very weak.

I think our inside centre - whoever the hell he is - is going to have fun with Harris.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:15 pm**

assfly wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:03 pm Very weak.

I think our inside centre - whoever the hell he is - is going to have fun with Harris.

I assume you are being ironic, that is a very strong side (barring Hill)

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:28 pm**

Openside wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:15 pm
assfly wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:03 pm Very weak.

I think our inside centre - whoever the hell he is - is going to have fun with Harris.
I assume you are being ironic, that is a very strong side (barring Hill)

It's a strong side full stop!! Though I can't see either Harris or Hill starting a test

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:17 pm**

If the Sharks actually attempt a turnover and try to slow the Lions ball down…….then I think they can keep the tourists under 50 points this time.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:28 pm**

Don't they have other wings then Koos vd Merwes laaitie and locks then the Nigerian Itoje?

Where are the Iere? Left in the cold

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:36 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:28 pm Don't they have other wings then Koos vd Merwes laaitie and locks then the Nigerian Itoje?

Where are the Iere? Left in the cold

Covid or burns

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:38 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:28 pm Don't they have other wings then Koos vd Merwes laaitie and locks then the Nigerian Itoje?

Where are the Iere? Left in the cold

Itoje's a Londoner born and bred, and English. He has Nigerian parents. Don't be a twat.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:59 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:38 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:28 pm Don't they have other wings then Koos vd Merwes laaitie and locks then the Nigerian Itoje?

Where are the Iere? Left in the cold
Itoje's a Londoner born and bred, and English. He has Nigerian parents. Don't be a twat.

He have African genes and culture.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:03 pm**

Big D wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:01 pm LIONS

15. Liam Williams (Scarlets, Wales) #833

14. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, England) #816

13. Elliot Daly (Saracens, England) #822

12. Chris Harris (Gloucester Rugby, Scotland) #844

11. Duhan van der Merwe (Worcester Warriors, Scotland) #841

10. Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints, Wales) #821

9. Gareth Davies (Scarlets, Wales) #850

1. Rory Sutherland (Worcester Warriors, Scotland) #840

2. Jamie George – captain (Saracens, England) #819

3. Tadhg Furlong (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #818

4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, England) #825

5. Jonny Hill (Exeter Chiefs, England) #845

6. Tadhg Beirne (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #838

7. Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby, Scotland) #847

8. Jack Conan (Leinster Rugby, Ireland) #839

Replacements:

16. Ken Owens (Scarlets, Wales) #829

17. Wyn Jones (Scarlets, Wales) #842

18. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, England) #814

19. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, England) #826

20. Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, England) #849

21. Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, England) #853

22. Conor Murray (Munster Rugby, Ireland) #790

23. Finn Russell (Racing 92, Scotland) #835

Looks pretty close to what I would pick in the forwards for the test 23.

Looks week.

$harks by 12

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:05 pm**

Sandstorm wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:36 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:28 pm Don't they have other wings then Koos vd Merwes laaitie and locks then the Nigerian Itoje?

Where are the Iere? Left in the cold
Covid or burns

No, that's us

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:06 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:38 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:28 pm Don't they have other wings then Koos vd Merwes laaitie and locks then the Nigerian Itoje?

Where are the Iere? Left in the cold
Itoje's a Londoner born and bred, and English. He has Nigerian parents. Don't be a twat.

Ok, which one is he?

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:14 pm**

Chilli wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:06 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:38 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:28 pm Don't they have other wings then Koos vd Merwes laaitie and locks then the Nigerian Itoje?

Where are the Iere? Left in the cold
Itoje's a Londoner born and bred, and English. He has Nigerian parents. Don't be a twat.
Ok, which one is he?

What?

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:20 pm**

van der Merwe = Afrikaans as you can get

Itoje = proudly Nigerian as you can get.

I visited Lagos and Nigeria a few times. Always admire the big Nigerians . If they take rugby seriously they will be massive.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:30 pm**

If Itoje parents stayed in Nigeria he would be a very good goalie.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:40 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:14 pm
Chilli wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:06 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 4:38 pm

Itoje's a Londoner born and bred, and English. He has Nigerian parents. Don't be a twat.
Ok, which one is he?
What?

Eh? Which player is he? I'd like to look out for him tomorrow.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:46 pm**

Chilli wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:40 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:14 pm
Chilli wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:06 pm
Ok, which one is he?
What?
Eh? Which player is he? I'd like to look out for him tomorrow.

Ah. Saffer humour.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:21 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:46 pm
Chilli wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:40 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:14 pm

What?
Eh? Which player is he? I'd like to look out for him tomorrow.
Ah. Saffer humour.

Well, an attempt at humor.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:38 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:30 pm If Itoje parents stayed in Nigeria he would be a very good goalie.

But they didn’t and produced a son that is proudly English and proud of his Nigerian roots and a brilliant rugby player.

Maybe it’s the sense of humour deficit or the slight language barrier, but no idea where you are going with this

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:29 pm**

assfly wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:42 am 1. Nthuthuko Mchunu

2. Kerron van Vuuren

3. Wiehahn Herbst

4. Le Roux Roets

5. Reniel Hugo

6. Dylan Richardson

7. Mpilo Gumede

8. Phepsi Buthelezi (c)

9. Jaden Hendrikse

10. Lionel Cronje

11. Thaakir Abrahams

12. Murray Koster

13. Werner Kok

14. Marnus Potgieter

15. Anthony Volmink

Replacements

16. Dan Jooste

17. MJ Majola

18. Khutha Mchunu

19. Thembelani Bholi

20. Jeandre Labuschagne

21. Cameron Wright

22. Boeta Chamberlain

23. Jeremy Ward

Why no JJ van der Mescht?

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:35 pm**

ia801310 wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:29 pm
assfly wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:42 am 1. Nthuthuko Mchunu

2. Kerron van Vuuren

3. Wiehahn Herbst

4. Le Roux Roets

5. Reniel Hugo

6. Dylan Richardson

7. Mpilo Gumede

8. Phepsi Buthelezi (c)

9. Jaden Hendrikse

10. Lionel Cronje

11. Thaakir Abrahams

12. Murray Koster

13. Werner Kok

14. Marnus Potgieter

15. Anthony Volmink

Replacements

16. Dan Jooste

17. MJ Majola

18. Khutha Mchunu

19. Thembelani Bholi

20. Jeandre Labuschagne

21. Cameron Wright

22. Boeta Chamberlain

23. Jeremy Ward
Why no JJ van der Mescht?

The Sharks have been up in Joeys for a few days and run out of pies.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:34 pm**

JJ is looking out of shape.
Badly so.

I was concerned about our starting flyhalf who has spent very little time with the team in place of Boeta.
But when you look at the team it's like getting to know your side as a supporter all over again. So he will fit in quite comfortably. This really is going to show us the depth of the Sharks acquisitions

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:17 am**

Think the test Pack should be
1Jones
2 George
3 Irish bloke
4 Joe Jam
5 Lawes
6 Navidi
7 Watson
8 Toby

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:19 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:20 pm van der Merwe = Afrikaans as you can get

Itoje = proudly Nigerian as you can get.

I visited Lagos and Nigeria a few times. Always admire the big Nigerians . If they take rugby seriously they will be massive.

agree with you on Van, South African through and through.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:21 am**

The Sharks should be congratulated on providing a game for the Lions.

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:15 am**

clive wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:17 am Think the test Pack should be
1Jones
2 George
3 Irish bloke
4 Joe Jam
5 Lawes
6 Navidi
7 Watson
8 Toby

WTF?
Started drinking a tad early today!

Posted: **Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:15 am**

clive wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:21 am The Sharks should be congratulated on providing a game for the Lions.

Why? They are lucky to get another chance and only got it because they were already isolated.

The Bulls would have been a much harder match for the Lions on Loftus. They have only 4 players on Bok duty and have much more experience players.

Bulls havent lost in the Bull Ring now for ages.

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