I'm 6'4 and 18 stone with hands like catchers mitts. I actually make a concerted effort to ease my grip when shaking hands, however when I meet one of these tits I actually grip their hand as hard as possible whilst asking them who they are trying to impress.
That's from over a week ago but let me rephrase
"Lighten up you old queen"
Years ago, I dislocated my thumb tackling the smallest player on the pitch when it got caught in his baggy jersey (remember those). It's an occupational hazard now with handshakes as I've received 2 subsequent dislocations from overly firm handshakes.
I didn't realise there was time constraints in replying. I don't spend a lot of time on here so apologies for not knowing the etiquette.
Odd that you have been injured by the very stupidity in highlighting but you are okay with it. I don't think I've ever shaken hands with a farmer of scaffolder who has felt the need to try and impress me with his manly handshake, it's just the work from home gym bunnies wankers with no real strength that seem to be keen on it.
For the avoidance of doubt, I was joking with the first post.
I don't think anyone is saying that. Regardless of their background I think it's okay to shoot anyone who has decided to use his car as a deadly weapon if it's likely to prevent loss of life.
People are prosecuted all the time for murder and attempt murder when they deliberately drive their car at someone, however we now have a court case where police officers are attacked in a similar manner and the prosecution case is that they are not allowed to rely on the defence that they felt their lives were at risk.
I don't really see a better way of doing it.
Have an "enquiry" and release the info about the dead guy's past and you'll have accusations of a cover up and smear job.
This way, although unpleasant for the officer in the dock, they get cleared by a jury who quite crucially were unaware of the dead man's past so no possible grounds for an unfair trial.
Police officers should be subject to the same protection under the law as any other citizen. The matter should be investigated and only if there is sufficient evidence of criminality and likelihood of a conviction should there be a prosecution. However suggesting police officers should routinely be thrown under the bus to appease political agendas is just plain wrong.
One of my retired colleagues is one of the most experience tactical firearms advisers in the UK and offered his services to the defence as an expert witness. They told him they didn't need him as they had been overwhelmed by similar offers and the prosecution were unable to produce any expert witness of any standing. Just a disgraceful prosecution that has had a huge impact on a man's life.
I'd suggest it's more down to past instances of poor behaviour and misconduct by police being covered up so now they have to go the other extreme.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:21 pm
by Biffer
Uncle fester wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:10 pm
Slippery slope though isn't it.
It's okay to shoot someone dead in a car if you find out later that they were a gang member and not have anything other than an "enquiry"?
Jury were obviously satisfied that he was killed lawfully and crucially they didn't know about his past.
Because we're a democracy, these checks and balances have to be in place, painful as they are for the acquitted officer.
It wasn't exactly a stationary car. It was a car that had been used in an armed incident a few days previously (that was pretty much all the officers knew for certain) and it was ramming backwards and forwards against the police cars that had boxed it while it was surrounded by armed officers.
I'd be interested to understand what you think the correct response was in that situation. Not what it wasn't, what it was.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:45 am
by robmatic
Punter15 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:56 pm
Found out today that Americans keep cats inside and only let them out on a leash. That’s mental.
Our cat is 12 years old and has basically never been outside in his life. Partly because we lived in flats in Edinburgh and Istanbul, but also because the lady we got him from in Scotland warned us that he would get nicked in very short order if he spent time outside. He's a pedigree Russian Blue and cats like that find themselves in new homes far away quite quickly.
I don't really see a better way of doing it.
Have an "enquiry" and release the info about the dead guy's past and you'll have accusations of a cover up and smear job.
This way, although unpleasant for the officer in the dock, they get cleared by a jury who quite crucially were unaware of the dead man's past so no possible grounds for an unfair trial.
Police officers should be subject to the same protection under the law as any other citizen. The matter should be investigated and only if there is sufficient evidence of criminality and likelihood of a conviction should there be a prosecution. However suggesting police officers should routinely be thrown under the bus to appease political agendas is just plain wrong.
One of my retired colleagues is one of the most experience tactical firearms advisers in the UK and offered his services to the defence as an expert witness. They told him they didn't need him as they had been overwhelmed by similar offers and the prosecution were unable to produce any expert witness of any standing. Just a disgraceful prosecution that has had a huge impact on a man's life.
I'd suggest it's more down to past instances of poor behaviour and misconduct by police being covered up so now they have to go the other extreme.
Still completely unacceptable. Every case must be judged on its own merit.
Do you know that police firearms officers are deployed to 18000 incidents a year, yet in the past decade they have discharged their weapons 66 times. When you consider all these incidents will be highly charged, volatile situations, yet on average only 2 people are shot and killed each year. 36 officers have been charged with murder over the years but none found guilty. There is more chance of getting killed by lightening or trampled to death by cattle than killed by police firearms officers.
I would say the above suggests that there is no previous evidence of poor behaviour, in fact exactly the opposite.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:21 am
by Blackmac
I see there is a story circulating that the jury prepared a statement for the court about how appalled they were at the quality of the case presented. They were prevented from reading it by the judge. Will be interesting to see if more comes out.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:27 am
by Biffer
Saw a black British man on twitter highlighting that he was far more likely to be shot and killed by another black British man than by the police.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:43 am
by sockwithaticket
Punter15 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:56 pm
Found out today that Americans keep cats inside and only let them out on a leash. That’s mental.
Lots of America has wildlife that will not hesitate to eat a cat, coyotes in particular. There's a story that's done the rounds on the internet a few times of a guy who ws regularly getting a new cat from the animal shelter and someone asked him about it, he said the coyotes keep getting them to which someone responded 'at what point are you just feeding the coyotes?'.
The wildlife that's smaller than and will be eaten by cats will also appreciate them being kept inside.
Punter15 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:56 pm
Found out today that Americans keep cats inside and only let them out on a leash. That’s mental.
Our cat is 12 years old and has basically never been outside in his life. Partly because we lived in flats in Edinburgh and Istanbul, but also because the lady we got him from in Scotland warned us that he would get nicked in very short order if he spent time outside. He's a pedigree Russian Blue and cats like that find themselves in new homes far away quite quickly.
Several of my children's' friends have indoor cats, mainly because they live in flats, it's more of a common thing than I first thought. Like them or loathe them, Peta advocate for "house cats", I've just seen an RSPCA page talking about the benefits of indoor cats - they don't kill or maim wildlife, they don't contract disease, some of which are terrible, they are safe from thieves, dogs, other cats and vehicles.
It seems counter intuitive to keep a cat indoors, but it can work well
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:07 am
by TedMaul
Hang on, is this whole cat discussion a disguised metaphor for the Kaba incident?
Punter15 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:56 pm
Found out today that Americans keep cats inside and only let them out on a leash. That’s mental.
Our cat is 12 years old and has basically never been outside in his life. Partly because we lived in flats in Edinburgh and Istanbul, but also because the lady we got him from in Scotland warned us that he would get nicked in very short order if he spent time outside. He's a pedigree Russian Blue and cats like that find themselves in new homes far away quite quickly.
Several of my children's' friends have indoor cats, mainly because they live in flats, it's more of a common thing than I first thought. Like them or loathe them, Peta advocate for "house cats", I've just seen an RSPCA page talking about the benefits of indoor cats - they don't kill or maim wildlife, they don't contract disease, some of which are terrible, they are safe from thieves, dogs, other cats and vehicles.
It seems counter intuitive to keep a cat indoors, but it can work well
We've recently adopted an elderly cat (whose even more elderly owner died age 93). The cat has never lived outside as far as we know, so despite us not living in a flat, she will remain a house cat (although we let her out into the back garden for a wander every now and then - it's fenced in and she's a bit arthritic so doesn't jump or climb). She has probably never met another cat or dog, and certainly won't be expecting cars. I have had cats previously who all went out at night, so this is a bit sub-optimal for me (litter tray and the fact the wee shite wakes us up at 3am), but it's probably best for the cat to live out her remaining years in safety and comfort.
Punter15 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:56 pm
Found out today that Americans keep cats inside and only let them out on a leash. That’s mental.
Our cat is 12 years old and has basically never been outside in his life. Partly because we lived in flats in Edinburgh and Istanbul, but also because the lady we got him from in Scotland warned us that he would get nicked in very short order if he spent time outside. He's a pedigree Russian Blue and cats like that find themselves in new homes far away quite quickly.
Several of my children's' friends have indoor cats, mainly because they live in flats, it's more of a common thing than I first thought. Like them or loathe them, Peta advocate for "house cats", I've just seen an RSPCA page talking about the benefits of indoor cats - they don't kill or maim wildlife, they don't contract disease, some of which are terrible, they are safe from thieves, dogs, other cats and vehicles.
It seems counter intuitive to keep a cat indoors, but it can work well
And the owner has to take responsibility for clearing their shit instead of being happy that their pet is treating all the neighbouring gardens as their personal shittery so they don't need to deal with it. Sounds like a win to me
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:14 pm
by Sandstorm
You can keep cats indoors all their lives (for the record, I love cats and think it's unfair on a creature that likes to wander), but you have to stimulate the cat every day with toys, things to climb onto or into and generally play-with-it to exhaustion every day. TBF cats sleep 16 hours a day anyway.....so 30 minutes a day is plenty.
Every time you see a "Cat Whisperer" show on TV, the problem cat is a result of a problem owner who has no idea how much stimulation the cats needs, especially when younger. Unhappy cats will piss and scratch you and your flat into oblivion.
Many Australian local councils now require cat owners to keep their pets on their own premises. In some areas, this is a curfew where cats are not allowed to roam freely after dark. But in other areas, cats must be kept on their own property at all times.
EDIT: and if I catch anyone de-clawing a cat, I will rip your throat out!
Is the correct answer, Now move along.Nothing more to see here.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:42 pm
by Enzedder
The ultimate pit maneuver, for those of you with Facebook
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:50 pm
by Sandstorm
Caleb or Clarkson?
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:21 pm
by fishfoodie
Well that's silly !!!
It's a John Deere; all they needed to do was call them up & tell them to activate the 'engine service light' function, & then 10 seconds later he'd either pull over, or the engine will grenade, & seize & no one gets hurt. Pfffff, amateurs
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:24 am
by Enzedder
fishfoodie wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:21 pm
Well that's silly !!!
It's a John Deere; all they needed to do was call them up & tell them to activate the 'engine service light' function, & then 10 seconds later he'd either pull over, or the engine will grenade, & seize & no one gets hurt. Pfffff, amateurs
If it ain't gung-ho, no USA cop is interested.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:50 pm
by tabascoboy
Unusual thing happened today. A tram derailed and crashed into... a computer store in central Oslo, creating a scene of chaos. The accident, which occurred with around 20 passengers on board, resulted in four injuries, including the tram driver. Witnesses described the situation as surreal and chaotic.
fishfoodie wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:21 pm
Well that's silly !!!
It's a John Deere; all they needed to do was call them up & tell them to activate the 'engine service light' function, & then 10 seconds later he'd either pull over, or the engine will grenade, & seize & no one gets hurt. Pfffff, amateurs
The tractor was leading a slow-moving westbound convoy on the Trans-Canada Highway near 176th Street at about 1:20 p.m. when the collision occurred. The convoy was protesting sexual orientation and gender identity programs being taught in public schools.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:10 pm
by epwc
Hate to say it but farmers ain't always the brightest sparks
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:11 pm
by Enzedder
epwc wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:10 pm
Hate to say it but farmers ain't always the brightest sparks
Nah, just different "learnings" and priorities.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:09 pm
by Niegs
Going through some old matches at random, had to chuckle at the oddness of what the camera operator spots in the crowd after the kick... Barnes' commentary...
The Yanks made efforts to clean up parts of the BW site there, but it was a typical Soviet era site & there is shit buried all over the place & anthrax doesn't ever die, it just hibernates until one day when the wind blows & exposes the rotten tank it was in, & it gets dispersed with that same wind.
This may be of interest to some - the Guardian have an article on the handcrafting of copper whisky stills. Even the true-blue engineer in me loves good craftsmanship.
I'm not quite sure the contrasting to 3D printers etc makes sense for something so low-volume that is formed and welded, but nice to see the old skills are retained.
