Grandpa, going back to your mention of the Blues before... Rangi McDonald is doing very good things there so far.He's another young coach coming up through the ranks with some solid ideas. Needs more time to prove his credentials but the prospect of him and Tony Brown teaming with Razor is mouth watering for me.
Guy Smiley wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:07 pmMeanwhile... Razor has been a breath of fresh air within NZR generally and his coaching has been excellent. He brings a revolutionary approach and lateral thinking to the role.
He does enjoy doing a few revolutions...
At his All Black interview he should have walked in.. done that.. and walked out...
Guy Smiley wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:37 pm
Imagine seeing that after a RWC victory?
Grandpa, going back to your mention of the Blues before... Rangi McDonald is doing very good things there so far.He's another young coach coming up through the ranks with some solid ideas. Needs more time to prove his credentials but the prospect of him and Tony Brown teaming with Razor is mouth watering for me.
Yeah Rangi is doing well. He has the Blues playing the most coherent rugby I have seen them play since 2003....
As for working with Razor at the All Blacks. I'd like Razor to select who he wants working with him.... as he needs the right chemistry. But if he chose them two I wouldn't be disappointed. Though didn't he approach Tony Brown last time and Brown declined as wanted to stay loyal to Joseph?
I know there is a belief that coaches need overseas experience, but I think it's more a belief that a wider range of experience is good.
I a Razor fan, but would like to see him do coaching outside of Canterbury to help broaden his experience. I not sure it's absolutely necessary, but certainly preferable, as Razor himself said when trying for Lions gig. He must of felt he could learn something of Gatland which would surprise many coaching critics on the internet.
I know it doesn't make bugger all difference what we think, as NZR don't read our posts (neither they should), but would probably really never get a coach in NZ that would I think be reading moans about whoever got job. I read moans etc about Hansen everytime I went onto rugby sites when he was coach, and as I said earlier he was I think the most successful international coaches in professional era. We went through same thing when Henry and co got reappointed after 07 WC, so seems perhaps we not experts at picking coaches we hope we are. And I include me in that.
I see Hamish Bidwell is talking that Schmidt should immediatley be appointed AB coach, and he's someone who didn't even want job.
Guy Smiley wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:37 pm
Imagine seeing that after a RWC victory?
Grandpa, going back to your mention of the Blues before... Rangi McDonald is doing very good things there so far.He's another young coach coming up through the ranks with some solid ideas. Needs more time to prove his credentials but the prospect of him and Tony Brown teaming with Razor is mouth watering for me.
Yeah Rangi is doing well. He has the Blues playing the most coherent rugby I have seen them play since 2003....
As for working with Razor at the All Blacks. I'd like Razor to select who he wants working with him.... as he needs the right chemistry. But if he chose them two I wouldn't be disappointed. Though didn't he approach Tony Brown last time and Brown declined as wanted to stay loyal to Joseph?
Yep bang on Grandpa, Tony Brown did turn Razor down. I don't really see a Rangi, Tony Brown and Razor combo working as you really need a forwards coach, and not sure either Rangi or TB would be much good. I be keen to see JJ there, but I wonder if egos may get in way? I wonder how good Tom Conventry would go as forward coach with ABs, I know Rangi seems to be doing good job with Blues, he seems to be only Blues coach to have a proper coaching team too. I think at Super rugby a lot of what is achieved is through good back room set up, Crusaders always have had it, and Blues have come on in leaps and bounds since NZR stepped in with them.
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When Schmidt was named to replace Grant Fox, Fozzie made it clear that his remit would extend well beyond that of a mere selector. Which given his pedigree, should be a huge positive for the team.
Gumboot wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:20 am
When Schmidt was named to replace Grant Fox, Fozzie made it clear that his remit would extend well beyond that of a mere selector. Which given his pedigree, should be a huge positive for the team.
Yep seem Fozter tried to get Schmidt at beginning, he wasn't ready , seems that why Fox stayed on, he wanted to pack it in after 2019. I hope Schmidt does get in and make some suggestions/changes etc, might be a way to get as much out of him as is possible with his reluctance/whatever to be fully involved.
Gumboot wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:20 am
When Schmidt was named to replace Grant Fox, Fozzie made it clear that his remit would extend well beyond that of a mere selector. Which given his pedigree, should be a huge positive for the team.
Yep seem Fozter tried to get Schmidt at beginning, he wasn't ready , seems that why Fox stayed on, he wanted to pack it in after 2019. I hope Schmidt does get in and make some suggestions/changes etc, might be a way to get as much out of him as is possible with his reluctance/whatever to be fully involved.
Didn't he step away from his Ireland gig to spend more time with his family? One of his kids has/had a serious health issue iirc.
Gumboot wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:20 am
When Schmidt was named to replace Grant Fox, Fozzie made it clear that his remit would extend well beyond that of a mere selector. Which given his pedigree, should be a huge positive for the team.
Yep seem Fozter tried to get Schmidt at beginning, he wasn't ready , seems that why Fox stayed on, he wanted to pack it in after 2019. I hope Schmidt does get in and make some suggestions/changes etc, might be a way to get as much out of him as is possible with his reluctance/whatever to be fully involved.
Didn't he step away from his Ireland gig to spend more time with his family? One of his kids has/had a serious health issue iirc.
Yep he did, but Hansen talks about his mental problems when he was coaching Ireland, they are pretty good mates. I do know one of his kids had a health problem when he younger, but Joe was pretty quiet why he left.
Gumboot wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:20 am
When Schmidt was named to replace Grant Fox, Fozzie made it clear that his remit would extend well beyond that of a mere selector. Which given his pedigree, should be a huge positive for the team.
Yep seem Fozter tried to get Schmidt at beginning, he wasn't ready , seems that why Fox stayed on, he wanted to pack it in after 2019. I hope Schmidt does get in and make some suggestions/changes etc, might be a way to get as much out of him as is possible with his reluctance/whatever to be fully involved.
Didn't he step away from his Ireland gig to spend more time with his family? One of his kids has/had a serious health issue iirc.
“I have decided to finish coaching and will prioritise family commitments after the Rugby World Cup in 2019,” Schmidt said in a statement issued by the IRFU.
Joe Schmidt will leave his role as director of rugby with the governing body at the end of the year to spend more time with his family in New Zealand; Schmidt was appointed by World Rugby in October 2020
The Irish head coach had been looking to move back to New Zealand once his left the job, in a bid to move nearer to his family.
But, as reported by the Irish Sun, he will remain in Ireland with his wife Kellie and four children settled in the country.
Schmidt said: "We'll probably stay in Ireland for some time. We're pretty settled there.
"A big motivator for me to get back was family and unfortunately we lost our mum recently, so on the back of that we'll take a bit of a breath and make some decisions beyond that."
I’m guessing he’s going to find some angle where it’s not quite the worst ever result by an AB coach.
And instead promote how brilliant Ireland are.
And that the world has changed and we can’t expect to win 50% of the games any more.
Ymx wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:31 am
I’m guessing he’s going to find some angle where it’s not quite the worst ever result by an AB coach.
And instead promote how brilliant Ireland are.
And that the world has changed and we can’t expect to win 50% of the games any more.
Yep... Foster will endeavour to lower expectations.. so that even getting out of our World Cup group will be seen as a great success.
Foster, who was named head coach in 2019 and last year had his contract extended until the 2023 Rugby World Cup, is under increasing pressure after New Zealand recorded their first back-to-back home defeats in 24 years.
“I just want to talk about the test match,” Foster told reporters.
“New Zealanders have probably got to realise that this was a very good Irish team.”
Foster said the All Blacks had not been as calm as Ireland, who deserved their “time in the sun” for their inspiring win.
“In the defence area we’re getting a bit fidgety, there’s a few holes and Ireland aren’t a team you can let get behind because that is when they play an up-tempo game,” he added.
Keep on picking Beaudie at no.10 please. Surprised there is no Beauden Out thread. Foster and his selectors' biggest sin is in not making Richie Mo the first choice AB flyhalf.
FalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:23 pm
Keep on picking Beaudie at no.10 please. Surprised there is no Beauden Out thread. Foster and his selectors' biggest sin is in not making Richie Mo the first choice AB flyhalf.
I've just wandered over to Stuff to browse their summation and reader comments on The Catastrophe.
I particularly like the first two sentences in this comment: Foster looks dour, his coaching has been lifeless and the result has proven to be a dead duck.
The team doesn't have a spark of fun or spontaneity about it. He has picked seasoned campaigners and hoped that their individual brilliance would get them home. They have looked more like a team of possums, caught in the headlights, frozen and unsure what to do, with the end result, run over by a Ireland team that has been professionally trained for International Rugby. Farrell on the other hand, does know what it takes to play International Rugby in two codes. So "Fozzie" Foster, do the honorable thing and resign and leave with whatever dignity you have left.