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the only bit I was serious about was the doctors. You can have our sportsmen with pleasure. But between the UK, New Zealand, Canada and Australia you've absolutely raped us. And you guys continue to actively recruit here. India and we are seriously impacted by this. If you're so clever and so rich, why can't you train your own doctors?We do thanks. We need more than we can train and yours are cheaperFalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:44 pm
So are footballs sewn by eleven year old Pakistanis. Doesn't make it right. Any idea the impact it makes on say rural hospitals in the third world? I get that we can't stop them going, but your state run health system should be guided by more ethical ideas than that.SaintK wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:10 pmWe do thanks. We need more than we can train and yours are cheaperFalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:44 pm
Take our tired, our poor,SaintK wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:10 pmWe do thanks. We need more than we can train and yours are cheaperFalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:44 pm
Don't disagree with that to be fairFalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:20 pmSo are footballs sewn by eleven year old Pakistanis. Doesn't make it right. Any idea the impact it makes on say rural hospitals in the third world? I get that we can't stop them going, but your state run health system should be guided by more ethical ideas than that.SaintK wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:10 pmWe do thanks. We need more than we can train and yours are cheaperFalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:44 pm
As do Pacific Islanders and Kiwis, it would still be weird to have Moana Pasifika or the Hurricanes join the Champions Cup.assfly wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:24 am South African players, rather than teams, do have a rich history in European Cup rugby.
Almost every team that has competed in the finals has had a number of Saffas playing for them.
Might be a strange way of looking at it, but long term it is hoped that our competing in European rugby will stop the player drain that has impacted local SA rugby so much.
Not as weird as watching a European Cup game at 9am.sockwithaticket wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:01 am As do Pacific Islanders and Kiwis, it would still be weird to have Moana Pasifika or the Hurricanes join the Champions Cup.
I really think it will be symbiotic. We are going to learn a ton as I believe a lot of innovation is happening in European rugby, and with the money in those leagues all the top coaches and players are going to be drawn there.sorCrer wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:29 am Saffa participation in the NH will help all the NH countries in the cup.
Like fuck it will. We already have heaps of non-European players in the teams, and the overwhelming impact has been in France, where we see size uber alles and brutal meathead rugby allied to some off-the-cuff flair from a handful of players.sorCrer wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:29 am Saffa participation in the NH will help all the NH countries in the cup.
It's a global world now, JM. Money was always going to take this the way of football. Your lot seem to have had no problem selecting 'foreign' players for decades.JM2K6 wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:44 amLike fuck it will. We already have heaps of non-European players in the teams, and the overwhelming impact has been in France, where we see size uber alles and brutal meathead rugby allied to some off-the-cuff flair from a handful of players.sorCrer wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:29 am Saffa participation in the NH will help all the NH countries in the cup.
It's a purely commercial decision that further dilutes the European Cup and will probably have a detrimental impact on players careers.
So I shouldn't hold a negative opinion on this? Just suck it up like a good little consumer?sorCrer wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:04 amIt's a global world now, JM. Money was always going to take this the way of football. Your lot seem to have had no problem selecting 'foreign' players for decades.JM2K6 wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:44 amLike fuck it will. We already have heaps of non-European players in the teams, and the overwhelming impact has been in France, where we see size uber alles and brutal meathead rugby allied to some off-the-cuff flair from a handful of players.sorCrer wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:29 am Saffa participation in the NH will help all the NH countries in the cup.
It's a purely commercial decision that further dilutes the European Cup and will probably have a detrimental impact on players careers.
Think you're angry now? Wait until we win the damned thingJM2K6 wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:06 am So I shouldn't hold a negative opinion on this? Just suck it up like a good little consumer?
Fuck that.
SA rugby needs the European Cup more than European rugby needs Saffer teams. It's a shit decision and we will live to regret it.
Oh no how will I cope when the French sides stuffed to the gills with imported talent no longer rule the roostassfly wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:12 amThink you're angry now? Wait until we win the damned thingJM2K6 wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:06 am So I shouldn't hold a negative opinion on this? Just suck it up like a good little consumer?
Fuck that.
SA rugby needs the European Cup more than European rugby needs Saffer teams. It's a shit decision and we will live to regret it.
Probably, but it might also be a political one. Aligning another rugby power with Europe further strengthens the case for a global season and skews the bargaining power to Europe when doing so.JM2K6 wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:44 amLike fuck it will. We already have heaps of non-European players in the teams, and the overwhelming impact has been in France, where we see size uber alles and brutal meathead rugby allied to some off-the-cuff flair from a handful of players.sorCrer wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:29 am Saffa participation in the NH will help all the NH countries in the cup.
It's a purely commercial decision that further dilutes the European Cup and will probably have a detrimental impact on players careers.
Sorry boet, still getting flashbacks of when the Cheetah's joined the PRO16 and we were told how they would win the thing within a year.
Who told you they'll win it within a year?Blake wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:01 pmSorry boet, still getting flashbacks of when the Cheetah's joined the PRO16 and we were told how they would win the thing within a year.
Quite a wake-up call. Think we should go into this new opportunity with a level head and embrace the opportunity to expose our players and coaches to new conditions, teams, players, playing styles and referees.
The tournament is going to stretch our teams in terms of player depth, financials, and team management. I think a lot of our franchises have become complacent and are living in a comfort zone.
Looking forward to the shake up and seeing if any of teams will rise to the occasion.
botaverage joe wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:57 amWho told you they'll win it within a year?Blake wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:01 pmSorry boet, still getting flashbacks of when the Cheetah's joined the PRO16 and we were told how they would win the thing within a year.
Quite a wake-up call. Think we should go into this new opportunity with a level head and embrace the opportunity to expose our players and coaches to new conditions, teams, players, playing styles and referees.
The tournament is going to stretch our teams in terms of player depth, financials, and team management. I think a lot of our franchises have become complacent and are living in a comfort zone.
Looking forward to the shake up and seeing if any of teams will rise to the occasion.
Ignorant and arrogant countrymen of ours AJ.average joe wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:57 amWho told you they'll win it within a year?Blake wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:01 pmSorry boet, still getting flashbacks of when the Cheetah's joined the PRO16 and we were told how they would win the thing within a year.
Quite a wake-up call. Think we should go into this new opportunity with a level head and embrace the opportunity to expose our players and coaches to new conditions, teams, players, playing styles and referees.
The tournament is going to stretch our teams in terms of player depth, financials, and team management. I think a lot of our franchises have become complacent and are living in a comfort zone.
Looking forward to the shake up and seeing if any of teams will rise to the occasion.
I didn’t think it was possible, but you’ve actually become more predictable and annoying. Well done.OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:24 ambotaverage joe wrote: Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:57 amWho told you they'll win it within a year?Blake wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:01 pm
Sorry boet, still getting flashbacks of when the Cheetah's joined the PRO16 and we were told how they would win the thing within a year.
Quite a wake-up call. Think we should go into this new opportunity with a level head and embrace the opportunity to expose our players and coaches to new conditions, teams, players, playing styles and referees.
The tournament is going to stretch our teams in terms of player depth, financials, and team management. I think a lot of our franchises have become complacent and are living in a comfort zone.
Looking forward to the shake up and seeing if any of teams will rise to the occasion.