NPR

Happyhooker wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:56 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:54 pm

Happyhooker wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:46 pm And I'm not sure about the Paralympics measures. I'm definitely leaning towards the ban them all side

Part of Putin's objective is to make the Paralympics more competitive.

Jimmy carr was at least 10 years ahead of you with that joke

Happyhooker wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:56 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:54 pm

Happyhooker wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:46 pm And I'm not sure about the Paralympics measures. I'm definitely leaning towards the ban them all side

Part of Putin's objective is to make the Paralympics more competitive.

Jimmy carr was at least 10 years ahead of you with that joke

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:47 pm

Happyhooker wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:56 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:54 pm
Part of Putin's objective is to make the Paralympics more competitive.

Jimmy carr was at least 10 years ahead of you with that joke

Don't tell Guy. It'll be another media source he'll have to resign from on principle.

eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:03 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:47 pm

Happyhooker wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:56 pm

Jimmy carr was at least 10 years ahead of you with that joke

Don't tell Guy. It'll be another media source he'll have to resign from on principle.

Surely if that si the case, he's already resigned over Carr's gypsy joke in his latest Netflix special?

Lobby wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:20 pm

Happyhooker wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:46 pm And I'm not sure about the Paralympics measures. I'm definitely leaning towards the ban them all side

I think the IPC would have preferred to ban them completely, but because the Paralympics start in two days time, it seems there were concerns about sorting out their legal powers to do at such short notice. This is clearly a compromise measure, but I’m with you; they should have been banned from competing.

eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:02 pm

Happyhooker wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:56 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:54 pm
Part of Putin's objective is to make the Paralympics more competitive.

Jimmy carr was at least 10 years ahead of you with that joke

Wasn't it Frankei Boyle? In both the 2008 Beijing ones and then he rehashed the same jokes, and Rebecca Adlington's got a big nose ones, again at London 2012.

Happyhooker wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:40 pm No. Carr's joke (which he originally tested in front of patients at an army rehab hospital where it went down a storm tbf) was about iraq/Afghan vets.

Slick wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:37 pm

Lobby wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:20 pm

Happyhooker wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:46 pm And I'm not sure about the Paralympics measures. I'm definitely leaning towards the ban them all side

I think the IPC would have preferred to ban them completely, but because the Paralympics start in two days time, it seems there were concerns about sorting out their legal powers to do at such short notice. This is clearly a compromise measure, but I’m with you; they should have been banned from competing.

Isn't part of the problem that those already there can't get back anyway?

Russian athletes banned from Beijing 2022 Winter Paralympics

Athletes from Russia and Belarus will not be permitted to compete in the Winter Paralympics, the International Paralympic Committee (IPC) has confirmed.

In a statement, the committee said: "Following a specially convened meeting, the IPC Governing Board has decided to refuse the athlete entries from the RPC and NPC Belarus for the Beijing 2022 Paralympic Winter Games.

"This means that para-athletes from these respective countries will no longer be allowed to participate in the Games which open on 4 March 2022."

This is a significant shift from the situation yesterday, when the IPC said athletes from the two countries would be allowed to compete, but as neutrals.

Blackmac wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:53 am Many Ukrainian athletes and sport stars have been forced to abandon their careers to return home and fight this invasion so I don't see why any Russian should be allowed to carry on as if nothing has happened. High profile sanctions like this are a good way to drive home to the average Russian how much the invasion and their countries leadership are despised.

Biffer wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:34 am The paralympics will be hardly noticed in Russia, it’s not a prominent event. Right action taken, but the football will be noticed much more. World Cup qualifier knockout at the end of this month which won’t be played and Russia out of the World Cup. Showpiece European final scheduled for St Petersburg in May, now moved.

GogLais wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:29 am

Biffer wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:34 am The paralympics will be hardly noticed in Russia, it’s not a prominent event. Right action taken, but the football will be noticed much more. World Cup qualifier knockout at the end of this month which won’t be played and Russia out of the World Cup. Showpiece European final scheduled for St Petersburg in May, now moved.

Even F1 have done the right thing.

yermum wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:00 am Just as a preface this is a genuine question and not a shit stir.

If any of the SA posters of the right vintage, can they remember what their feelings were about being excluded from world sport were?

FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:06 pm

yermum wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:00 am Just as a preface this is a genuine question and not a shit stir.

If any of the SA posters of the right vintage, can they remember what their feelings were about being excluded from world sport were?

Grew up in the isolation period. I was 11 during the '81 tour to NZ and after that there was total exclusion. The rebel tours were exciting but obviously not the real deal. If you've never had something you don't really know what you're missing. What I can tell you was that our return to international sport was an amazing experience for me. The 1992 cricket world cup, the 1994 inbound All Black tour and the 1995 RWC completely gripped us. The boycott was the right thing for SA it was one of those soft power levers that is very underestimated.

The Russians are going to suffer from this big time. Its like taking away your identity. Making you invisible to the world. But in the long run this is the right thing for Russia. I feel so sorry for the public over there. But it is an opportunity for them to rediscover their proper national identity which has been highjacked by successive regimes over and over.

yermum wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:31 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:06 pm

yermum wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:00 am Just as a preface this is a genuine question and not a shit stir.

If any of the SA posters of the right vintage, can they remember what their feelings were about being excluded from world sport were?

Grew up in the isolation period. I was 11 during the '81 tour to NZ and after that there was total exclusion. The rebel tours were exciting but obviously not the real deal. If you've never had something you don't really know what you're missing. What I can tell you was that our return to international sport was an amazing experience for me. The 1992 cricket world cup, the 1994 inbound All Black tour and the 1995 RWC completely gripped us. The boycott was the right thing for SA it was one of those soft power levers that is very underestimated.

The Russians are going to suffer from this big time. Its like taking away your identity. Making you invisible to the world. But in the long run this is the right thing for Russia. I feel so sorry for the public over there. But it is an opportunity for them to rediscover their proper national identity which has been highjacked by successive regimes over and over.

thanks for the response.
Can I ask, did you question why no-one wanted to play sport against SA?

Apologies if my questions come across as ignorant. It does seem that SA folk would have a good understanding of what its like to live in a pariah regime in the way that Russia is going.

yermum wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:31 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:06 pm

yermum wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:00 am Just as a preface this is a genuine question and not a shit stir.

If any of the SA posters of the right vintage, can they remember what their feelings were about being excluded from world sport were?

Grew up in the isolation period. I was 11 during the '81 tour to NZ and after that there was total exclusion. The rebel tours were exciting but obviously not the real deal. If you've never had something you don't really know what you're missing. What I can tell you was that our return to international sport was an amazing experience for me. The 1992 cricket world cup, the 1994 inbound All Black tour and the 1995 RWC completely gripped us. The boycott was the right thing for SA it was one of those soft power levers that is very underestimated.

The Russians are going to suffer from this big time. Its like taking away your identity. Making you invisible to the world. But in the long run this is the right thing for Russia. I feel so sorry for the public over there. But it is an opportunity for them to rediscover their proper national identity which has been highjacked by successive regimes over and over.

thanks for the response.
Can I ask, did you question why no-one wanted to play sport against SA?

Apologies if my questions come across as ignorant. It does seem that SA folk would have a good understanding of what its like to live in a pariah regime in the way that Russia is going.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:55 pm

yermum wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:31 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:06 pm
Grew up in the isolation period. I was 11 during the '81 tour to NZ and after that there was total exclusion. The rebel tours were exciting but obviously not the real deal. If you've never had something you don't really know what you're missing. What I can tell you was that our return to international sport was an amazing experience for me. The 1992 cricket world cup, the 1994 inbound All Black tour and the 1995 RWC completely gripped us. The boycott was the right thing for SA it was one of those soft power levers that is very underestimated.

The Russians are going to suffer from this big time. Its like taking away your identity. Making you invisible to the world. But in the long run this is the right thing for Russia. I feel so sorry for the public over there. But it is an opportunity for them to rediscover their proper national identity which has been highjacked by successive regimes over and over.

thanks for the response.
Can I ask, did you question why no-one wanted to play sport against SA?

Apologies if my questions come across as ignorant. It does seem that SA folk would have a good understanding of what its like to live in a pariah regime in the way that Russia is going.

I was in the army 1977/78.

It wasn't if no-one wanted to play sport against us.

Rugby and cricket was amateur back then and we had the rebelle tours. We draw the full All Blacks bar 2 players after their first World Cup win. Ditto Australia cricket team.

It was absolute kak that we were force to do 2 years army and got sport boycotts.

Questioning why? Fuck our era you questioning vokol, you had to just move on.