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Once again, the rugby authorities show themselves to be inept, inconsistent clowns.Lobby wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:46 am A two-week ban is a nonsense. Each time he does this he should receive a progressively longer ban. Two years for any further instances, and after that a lifetime ban from any involvement in international rugby.
Grandpa wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:47 pmThe great thing is we don't let injustices like that bother us...Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:28 amNo, he’s a dreadful snearing tit. I found this for the first time the other day, which I didn’t even recall.Grandpa wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:13 am
He must be... I liked Owens too. But I like Barnes.. he's always tough at the start of games so players know to not fcuk him about... end up with cleaner rucks... I like him... apart from 2007 of course...
He was hell bent on permitting this. Listen to the language he uses. Determined to quickly brush over a review of forward pass, possible knock on, or even offside (if not a knock on).
He’d made his mind up on an outcome, and didn’t want to be corrected. Owens trying to help him, but no.
Terrible reffing.
Like I say, he gives Rassie plenty of material.
Cue the calling of sour grapes, yada yada yada …
indeed Grandad I snort of wondered the same.troglodiet wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:19 pm
I always wondered the roads in Bloemfontein doesn't have white lines....
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/63705156Erasmus' conduct, and the frenzied reaction of some South Africa supporters towards the officials involved and their families, is in danger of leading to a refereeing crisis in the world game.
The BBC understands there are a growing number of referees who are increasingly reluctant to take charge of matches involving the Springboks.
Smit's bang on the money regarding Erasmus imo, and he makes some other good points about players respecting the refs (and captains!):fishfoodie wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:55 pm The Beeb basically confirming that Refs don't want to Ref SA games.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/63705156Erasmus' conduct, and the frenzied reaction of some South Africa supporters towards the officials involved and their families, is in danger of leading to a refereeing crisis in the world game.
The BBC understands there are a growing number of referees who are increasingly reluctant to take charge of matches involving the Springboks.
He needs to be told, one more squeak, & you'll be banned for life.
'Men's game needs ego check'
Smit, meanwhile, urged South Africa to concentrate on playing rather than obsessing with referees, and wants to see a "reset" across the board in how officials are treated.
"I honestly believe there should be a penalty for any player who thinks they can help the referee referee the game," he said.
"The referees have to get control back. Everyone seems to think they have an influence over what the referee should be doing. When I was captain, when anyone else spoke they were disrespecting me, and the referee.
"Refereeing rugby is incredibly difficult. What we want is consistency and respect, and I think when we start giving that back to the referee the pressure will be off them [and they will] have more consistent performances.
"I would like referees to get back in charge and not have to defend themselves the whole time.
"Obviously we would all like referees to have perfect games every weekend. But I think it starts with the players. We have this very masculine, aggressive game in the men's game, and you watch the women's [World Cup] final and you don't see any of that going on.
"Maybe it is time for everyone across the board to do a little ego check, reset the clock, and get back to what made rugby great, which is being respectful."
Ref makes it clear at the pre game meeting there will be no assistance from the players, and that then only person who will be allowed to be speaking to them is the captain.sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:28 am Listened to him saying all that on the BBC pod, there's nothing to disagree with. We do hear refs pulling the captains aside and telling them to talk to their teams about the amount of 'assistance' coming in from players, but that's too weak. It should be penalties right off the bat. There's a whole powow with the refs ahead of the match, so no one should be in any doubt as to what the expectations on them are.
6 Irishmen in the sin bin together?Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:00 am Smit's spot on. Refs should ping people off the park for dissent and set the tone from there.
The Irish do their talking on the field, where the ref, & other officials can ping them if they feel their being lippy, they are perfectly free to penalize them, as above.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:12 pm6 Irishmen in the sin bin together?Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:00 am Smit's spot on. Refs should ping people off the park for dissent and set the tone from there.
Sexton will play until he's forty five as he'll only be on the pitch for six minutes each week.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:12 pm6 Irishmen in the sin bin together?Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:00 am Smit's spot on. Refs should ping people off the park for dissent and set the tone from there.
Good way to keep him fresh for a few world cups.Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:36 pmSexton will play until he's forty five as he'll only be on the pitch for six minutes each week.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:12 pm6 Irishmen in the sin bin together?Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:00 am Smit's spot on. Refs should ping people off the park for dissent and set the tone from there.
Do not threaten me with a good time sirSandstorm wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:12 pm6 Irishmen in the sin bin together?Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:00 am Smit's spot on. Refs should ping people off the park for dissent and set the tone from there.
Also good practice for the average length of Ireland's stay at a world cup
JM2K6 wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:14 pmAlso good practice for the average length of Ireland's stay at a world cupUncle fester wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:36 amGood way to keep him fresh for a few world cups.Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:36 pm
Sexton will play until he's forty five as he'll only be on the pitch for six minutes each week.
Was going to go with that but thought it a bit too obvious.JM2K6 wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:14 pmAlso good practice for the average length of Ireland's stay at a world cupUncle fester wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:36 amGood way to keep him fresh for a few world cups.Biffer wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:36 pm
Sexton will play until he's forty five as he'll only be on the pitch for six minutes each week.
Appreciate the assistUncle fester wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:36 amWas going to go with that but thought it a bit too obvious.JM2K6 wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:14 pmAlso good practice for the average length of Ireland's stay at a world cup
That’s it, and how it use to be reffed. Back chat was a penalty and possibly 10 yards.ASMO wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:15 pmRef makes it clear at the pre game meeting there will be no assistance from the players, and that then only person who will be allowed to be speaking to them is the captain.sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:28 am Listened to him saying all that on the BBC pod, there's nothing to disagree with. We do hear refs pulling the captains aside and telling them to talk to their teams about the amount of 'assistance' coming in from players, but that's too weak. It should be penalties right off the bat. There's a whole powow with the refs ahead of the match, so no one should be in any doubt as to what the expectations on them are.
First offence, march them back 10, second offence, penalty, third offence, yellow card, that will quickly teach players they need to shut up and stop pretending to be kevballers.
I was reading that earlier. Well done to the French authorities for coming down hard, but how the hell does ROG gets bans like that and Rassie gets a couple of weeksInsane_Homer wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:10 pm Rassie is amature and got some way to catch up with ROG..
BBC: Ronan O'Gara: La Rochelle head coach suspended for 10 weeks, his fourth ban in a year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63734526
I wondered the same. Now they want to have a chat with Rassie.Slick wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:13 pmI was reading that earlier. Well done to the French authorities for coming down hard, but how the hell does ROG gets bans like that and Rassie gets a couple of weeksInsane_Homer wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:10 pm Rassie is amature and got some way to catch up with ROG..
BBC: Ronan O'Gara: La Rochelle head coach suspended for 10 weeks, his fourth ban in a year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63734526
I think they are both immature rather than amateur.Insane_Homer wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:10 pm Rassie is amature and got some way to catch up with ROG..
BBC: Ronan O'Gara: La Rochelle head coach suspended for 10 weeks, his fourth ban in a year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63734526
what did he say? missed thatYmx wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:12 pmThat’s it, and how it use to be reffed. Back chat was a penalty and possibly 10 yards.ASMO wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:15 pmRef makes it clear at the pre game meeting there will be no assistance from the players, and that then only person who will be allowed to be speaking to them is the captain.sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:28 am Listened to him saying all that on the BBC pod, there's nothing to disagree with. We do hear refs pulling the captains aside and telling them to talk to their teams about the amount of 'assistance' coming in from players, but that's too weak. It should be penalties right off the bat. There's a whole powow with the refs ahead of the match, so no one should be in any doubt as to what the expectations on them are.
First offence, march them back 10, second offence, penalty, third offence, yellow card, that will quickly teach players they need to shut up and stop pretending to be kevballers.
You’d have never got away with what Faz said to the ref.
Ironically when I google searched it, I picked the top article, but look at the second one and the date of it.
Farrell could be heard saying to Mathieu Raynal: “You’re only looking for one team, ref.”
Raynal responded: “I’m looking for both.”
To which Farrell said: “Doesn’t feel like it.”
Yep.ASMO wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:15 pmRef makes it clear at the pre game meeting there will be no assistance from the players, and that then only person who will be allowed to be speaking to them is the captain.sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:28 am Listened to him saying all that on the BBC pod, there's nothing to disagree with. We do hear refs pulling the captains aside and telling them to talk to their teams about the amount of 'assistance' coming in from players, but that's too weak. It should be penalties right off the bat. There's a whole powow with the refs ahead of the match, so no one should be in any doubt as to what the expectations on them are.
First offence, march them back 10, second offence, penalty, third offence, yellow card, that will quickly teach players they need to shut up and stop pretending to be kevballers.
It's him. Looking at the cheating refs.
There is so much support for Rassie. And they are all celebrating Rassie putting WR in its place.
Are you new here?Biffer wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:26 pm It’s a bit worrying how a lot of South Africans don’t understand how far they are alienating themselves for the rest of the rugby community over this.