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Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 2:09 pm
by Jim Lahey
Line6 HXFX wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:15 pm Oh and just for the avoidance of doubt, all the instructors, examiners, were women, all six..and all the jobless poor hopeless fuckers, were men (aside from one girl who could barely speak English, from Poland I think.. but will probably be an instructor next week.).

My ole given up, get drunk..fuck this for a game of chess.. dead before 30.. single school friends deffo had the right idea.
Is this all part of your employability course or is this an actual job interview?

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:06 am
by Line6 HXFX
No point answering questions really. Fun fact I got bored and posted my references once, obviously without my name and address..because i got fed up of being called lazy for six years. during the smearing and slandering of the poor sick and unemployed era..that is still in full swing (after 13 years of benefits reforms, tens of thousands of deaths, millions goingbto foodbanks and millions more being terrorised daily) .

My references are glowing and outstanding with about 8 people (i worked for a bunch of agencies voluntarily, that don't really have funding to employ you after, or keep a database developer on staff..normally when the DB is done, staff are trained.. they don't need me any more) saying I am a highly skilled, hard honest worker.
The response to these references, instead of apology, silence and shame.. from my detractors was predictable..(so determined were they to see me as a non human being and dehumanise me) .
" I made them up".
So sent them (with my detail blacked out) to someone who I trusted, and he corroborated them on the site..which he did.
This wasn't good enough either.

So eight brilliant glowing references, from a fellow human being, did absolutely nothing to get people to stop and think.
Started to suspect creeps wanted personal information about me and to reveal more and more about myself.

It is all self serving contempt.
It serves people to have contempt for the poor sick and unemployed.. so they do. It serves them.
The problem with self serving contempt is it will never be satiated, no matter what terrible policy they dream up, no matter how great the worker is..what cruel cuts they implement, pain they inflict..penury they create, nothing through government policy will cut it.
The contempt is self serving.
We could all be dying of thirst in fields, picking fruit, dropping dead... and the contempt will be just as strong.
Nothing is ever going to be enough as the contempt is self serving.
They think there is a taxcut in it for them if they keep hating you.

And this is the capitalist systems lifeblood, its essence.
How one area of the country can have absolutely everything, and another can have absolutely nothing, and be told off for it.
It serves them to have contempt, so they do.

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:28 am
by Sandstorm
REFRY’s references:

Pros: Decent programmer
Cons: Colossal whinger, won’t work well with others

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:38 am
by Gumboot
I'm starting to feel sorry for Refry. Humanity is doomed.

Next!

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:47 am
by average joe
Two life lessons they should add on to this so-called training.

The world owes you fokol
What others think or say about you matter fokol.

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:23 am
by Jim Lahey
Line6 HXFX wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:06 am How one area of the country can have absolutely everything, and another can have absolutely nothing, and be told off for it.
It serves them to have contempt, so they do.
Why don't you move to the good part of the country then?

A mate of mine that is a lawyer and works for a PLC in London recently moved back home to NI. He was working from home in London post-pandemic and they've allowed him to move home and keep his London salary, so he is minted in comparison to the rest of us plebs.

NI is a decent place to live but I know my salary will be half of ehat it would be in England (so will my cost of living tbf). The pros outweigh the cons for staying imo though.

If Wales is a bag of shit for work, then it would make sense to consider moving.

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:32 am
by Yeeb
Line6 HXFX wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:06 am No point answering questions really. Fun fact I got bored and posted my references once, obviously without my name and address..because i got fed up of being called lazy for six years. during the smearing and slandering of the poor sick and unemployed era..that is still in full swing (after 13 years of benefits reforms, tens of thousands of deaths, millions goingbto foodbanks and millions more being terrorised daily) .

My references are glowing and outstanding with about 8 people (i worked for a bunch of agencies voluntarily, that don't really have funding to employ you after, or keep a database developer on staff..normally when the DB is done, staff are trained.. they don't need me any more) saying I am a highly skilled, hard honest worker.
The response to these references, instead of apology, silence and shame.. from my detractors was predictable..(so determined were they to see me as a non human being and dehumanise me) .
" I made them up".
So sent them (with my detail blacked out) to someone who I trusted, and he corroborated them on the site..which he did.
This wasn't good enough either.

So eight brilliant glowing references, from a fellow human being, did absolutely nothing to get people to stop and think.
Started to suspect creeps wanted personal information about me and to reveal more and more about myself.

It is all self serving contempt.
It serves people to have contempt for the poor sick and unemployed.. so they do. It serves them.
The problem with self serving contempt is it will never be satiated, no matter what terrible policy they dream up, no matter how great the worker is..what cruel cuts they implement, pain they inflict..penury they create, nothing through government policy will cut it.
The contempt is self serving.
We could all be dying of thirst in fields, picking fruit, dropping dead... and the contempt will be just as strong.
Nothing is ever going to be enough as the contempt is self serving.
They think there is a taxcut in it for them if they keep hating you.

And this is the capitalist systems lifeblood, its essence.
How one area of the country can have absolutely everything, and another can have absolutely nothing, and be told off for it.
It serves them to have contempt, so they do.
Did you mean me here ?
You referred to PI there, just a reminder you will never ever get a leak from me , big boy Boyo :thumbup:

In any case that email address is long gone and I never saved anything, can recall your name or nom de plume used though.

For the doubters there , he seemed genuine and legit , the background was at the time my brother worked at getting long term unemployed into work so I tried to help - turns out it’s stricktly geographic based and my bro wasn’t allowed to help. By a quirk of fate my bro turned into the very people he spent a decade trying to help , and hasn’t worked for many years and has many of the same ailments and depression things as Refry.
Don’t have to be Dr Frasier crane to realise when I’m ragging on Refry, I’m aiming at my brother really.

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:56 pm
by bessantj
If you're having trouble with employment then do your PTS and get a job on the rails. It's not great pay at the start but better than most and when you start climbing the ladder you can get multi house buying money. They tend to love the Rhondda boys on the rails as they're a hard working bunch, threads of violence not withstanding.

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:54 am
by Line6 HXFX
Probably starting work in the next couple of weeks.
Pure Socialism is giving me a job . 100%
Pure Socialism is giving companies up here free staff.
These are Socialist economic and employment policies amd initiatives, rolled out, GB wide..by the tories.

The taxpayer will be paying my wages for 6 months..so I can get even more pointless references and qualifications, keeping everyones capitalist dream alive, lowering unemployment etc..

Look Capitalism is nowhere here.
Collapsed completely or was never even tried.
Most of the the "businesses rely on local or central government, even the shops in town rely on local authority employees and their lunchtime shopping.
You can probably trace most of the money up here back to the taxpayer.
Hospital employees, care workers, nurses, government workers, people with British Steel pensions.

We don't have to try something else in the valleys, we already have..socialism, it's here.. was always here..and is even being tried everywhere now.
By the fucking Tories..

Because they learned Capitalism is either dead or doesn't work in jobless enclaves.

They realised their true believer, finger jabbing, nasty as fuck.. "Capitalism or death" stuff is just magical thinking, and idiotic.

Even Rory Stewart voted against these "socialist" policies 9 years ago.
That is how far they have come.

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:49 am
by Rhubarb & Custard
Two thoughts occur, it might be useful if you learned what capitalism and socialism actually mean, or failing that stop using the words capitalism and socialism.

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:57 am
by Insane_Homer
Work shy scrounger having a proper moan that he's got a job and now has to get off his fat arse shocker 👀

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:17 am
by Jim Lahey
Insane_Homer wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:57 am Work shy scrounger having a proper moan that he's got a job and now has to get off his fat arse shocker 👀
:lol:

Now now. Its society's fault.

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:40 am
by Gumboot
The deprivation we saw on the streets and the metro in LA was shocking, even going into it with some small idea of what to expect. And the jarring contrast of lawyer billboards every few miles of freeway. Litigating Uber accidents pays bigtime, apparently. The free market economy at its most free and its most flawed. Scary shit when you're visiting from a civilised society. Wouldn't want to live there.

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:07 am
by Sandstorm
Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:40 am The deprivation we saw on the streets and the metro in LA was shocking, even going into it with some small idea of what to expect. And the jarring contrast of lawyer billboards every few miles of freeway. Litigating Uber accidents pays bigtime, apparently. The free market economy at its most free and its most flawed. Scary shit when you're visiting from a civilised society. Wouldn't want to live there.
I’m the USA you go live in a city that is cold in winter if you want to avoid hoards of homeless people. Honolulu is ridiculous.

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:11 am
by Gumboot
Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:07 am
Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:40 am The deprivation we saw on the streets and the metro in LA was shocking, even going into it with some small idea of what to expect. And the jarring contrast of lawyer billboards every few miles of freeway. Litigating Uber accidents pays bigtime, apparently. The free market economy at its most free and its most flawed. Scary shit when you're visiting from a civilised society. Wouldn't want to live there.
I’m the USA you go live in a city that is cold in winter if you want to avoid hoards of homeless people. Honolulu is ridiculous.
Yeah I guess you could live with it if you turned a blind eye and avoided public transport...

Re: Wales should just give up Capitalism and look for something else.

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:17 pm
by Rhubarb & Custard
Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:40 am The deprivation we saw on the streets and the metro in LA was shocking, even going into it with some small idea of what to expect. And the jarring contrast of lawyer billboards every few miles of freeway. Litigating Uber accidents pays bigtime, apparently. The free market economy at its most free and its most flawed. Scary shit when you're visiting from a civilised society. Wouldn't want to live there.
I think it would be a mistake, indeed a bad one, to overly equate the USA economy with being a free economy or an overly capitalistic one. It's not an oligarchy or a feudal system either, but there are some massive distortions from such as oligarchy which means the free market really isn't free.

Which isn't to say I'd argue in favour of something approximate to a free market economy, you'd need much more faith in humanity than I have to do that, just charging all the failures as a consequence of the free market when they often stem from things a free market wouldn't entail seems to be missing the point