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Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:00 am**

Just when you had given up on our fielding, Phillips pulls of one of the best catches you will ever see. Pope has every right to be gutted to be dismissed because he hit that cut absolutely perfectly.

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 5:47 am**

Again, the over rate is pathetic.

8 from England
2 for the innings change and just
74 from the Crappers (and this also after an extra half hour)

Match referee has to step in. This shouldn't be allowed.

It was once possible to bowl over 100 in a day without the need for the extra time. Then came Garner, Holding and Co

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:42 am**

Yes, disappointing to see the go-slow in response to England's entertaining cricket.

Well balanced match, this. Tomorrow could see a decent kiwi lead into their second innings or a decent English one, and neither will take long

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:10 am**

Harry Brook currently averages 93 in test cricket outside england

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:12 am**

He's some player for a bloke who looks like he should be working in an electrical store and bothering women in a Preston nightclub every Friday

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:16 am**

Enzedder wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 5:47 am Again, the over rate is pathetic.

8 from England
2 for the innings change and just
74 from the Crappers (and this also after an extra half hour)

Match referee has to step in. This shouldn't be allowed.

It was once possible to bowl over 100 in a day without the need for the extra time. Then came Garner, Holding and Co

Hard to know how best to change the slow over rates. I heard on suggestion, on air, that the bowling side should have their new ball delayed if they aren't meeting the prescribed over rate - that could be worth a go. Fines and WTC point deductions don't appear to have any benefit.
Penalty runs are tricky to work out. Maybe the bowling side should lose all their reviews if they get more than 4 overs behind the required rate. They could also trim the lunch interval if they need to catch up - not sure the Umps would approve though.

The issue definitely needs to be taken more seriously - it clearly isn't getting any better

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:18 am**

Ovals wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:16 am
Enzedder wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 5:47 am Again, the over rate is pathetic.

8 from England
2 for the innings change and just
74 from the Crappers (and this also after an extra half hour)

Match referee has to step in. This shouldn't be allowed.

It was once possible to bowl over 100 in a day without the need for the extra time. Then came Garner, Holding and Co
Hard to know how best to change the slow over rates. I heard on suggestion, on air, that the bowling side should have their new ball delayed if they aren't meeting the prescribed over rate - that could be worth a go. Fines and WTC point deductions don't appear to have any benefit.
Penalty runs are tricky to work out. Maybe the bowling side should lose all their reviews if they get more than 4 overs behind the required rate. They could also trim the lunch interval if they need to catch up - not sure the Umps would approve though.

The issue definitely needs to be taken more seriously - it clearly isn't getting any better

Run for every ball not bowled each session. Only thing that will change it. They can bowl at that rate, they choose not to.

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:24 am**

Ovals wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:16 am
Enzedder wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 5:47 am Again, the over rate is pathetic.

8 from England
2 for the innings change and just
74 from the Crappers (and this also after an extra half hour)

Match referee has to step in. This shouldn't be allowed.

It was once possible to bowl over 100 in a day without the need for the extra time. Then came Garner, Holding and Co
Hard to know how best to change the slow over rates. I heard on suggestion, on air, that the bowling side should have their new ball delayed if they aren't meeting the prescribed over rate - that could be worth a go. Fines and WTC point deductions don't appear to have any benefit.
Penalty runs are tricky to work out. Maybe the bowling side should lose all their reviews if they get more than 4 overs behind the required rate. They could also trim the lunch interval if they need to catch up - not sure the Umps would approve though.

The issue definitely needs to be taken more seriously - it clearly isn't getting any better

I quite like that idea, as it's a relatively direct consequence during the match in question.

Just out of interest, how much blame do we think the batting team hold for slow run rates? I ask as I recall watching a few bowlers get exasperated with (I think? I might be conflating) Labuschagne who took a fair while to complete his rituals before each delivery. The batsman wasting a minute or two each over in taking guard will start to add up.

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 2:54 pm**

inactionman wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:24 am
Ovals wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:16 am
Enzedder wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 5:47 am Again, the over rate is pathetic.

8 from England
2 for the innings change and just
74 from the Crappers (and this also after an extra half hour)

Match referee has to step in. This shouldn't be allowed.

It was once possible to bowl over 100 in a day without the need for the extra time. Then came Garner, Holding and Co
Hard to know how best to change the slow over rates. I heard on suggestion, on air, that the bowling side should have their new ball delayed if they aren't meeting the prescribed over rate - that could be worth a go. Fines and WTC point deductions don't appear to have any benefit.
Penalty runs are tricky to work out. Maybe the bowling side should lose all their reviews if they get more than 4 overs behind the required rate. They could also trim the lunch interval if they need to catch up - not sure the Umps would approve though.

The issue definitely needs to be taken more seriously - it clearly isn't getting any better
I quite like that idea, as it's a relatively direct consequence during the match in question.

Just out of interest, how much blame do we think the batting team hold for slow run rates? I ask as I recall watching a few bowlers get exasperated with (I think? I might be conflating) Labuschagne who took a fair while to complete his rituals before each delivery. The batsman wasting a minute or two each over in taking guard will start to add up.

Some bats do fanny around a lot - they should be ready when the bowler has returned to his normal mark. Umpires should enforce that.

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 4:04 pm**

Harry Brook is a special player, expect him to break records.

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:16 pm**

Biffer wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:10 am Harry Brook currently averages 93 in test cricket outside england

Well he's no Don Bradman, but heck close enough

England on top end of day 2, BCs are going to have to fight hard from here else it could get to be a mare.

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:35 pm**

There was a break-in at the ground - the culprits cut through the wire fences and stole a couple of cameras from talksport box, and a load of stuff from the venue (laptops, beers). Changing rooms etc untouched."

Scumbags

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:48 pm**

Is it time to suggest these Tests should be played in Dubai on safety grounds instead?

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:25 pm**

Phillips drops Brook a-fucking-gain

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:27 pm**

Brook dropped for the 5th time

I think conditions will prove to be very tricky once they take the new ball

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:55 pm**

Brook finally gone, nibbling outside off, for a superb 171.

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:58 pm**

Kiwias wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:55 pm Brooke finally gone, nibbling outside off, for a superb 171.

Brook 171/6

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:06 pm**

Ovals wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:27 pm Brook dropped for the 5th time

I think conditions will prove to be very tricky once they take the new ball

New ball taken, two wickets in the next 10 mins. Well called, sir.

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:48 pm**

Gus Atkinson is a player I like watching. Unfussy and gets on with it.

A very useful 48.

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:48 pm**

Kiwias wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:06 pm
Ovals wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:27 pm Brook dropped for the 5th time

I think conditions will prove to be very tricky once they take the new ball
New ball taken, two wickets in the next 10 mins. Well called, sir.

I think they've lost their line and lengths since then - or been knocked off them by Atkinson - you won't get much swing or seam if you bowl half trackers. Means they've had to go defensive and have no slips, The lead s getting substantial now. Atkinson out for 48 but the damage has been done as the lead is now 97. Carse can bat - averages 31 in 1st class cricket !

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:03 am**

England 111 ahead at Lunch, with 2 wickets left.

Apart from Phillips' stunning catch yesterday, the Black Caps' fielding has been bloody abysmal.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:04 am**

Great session for England - 140/3 @ 6 an over. The lead is not yet insurmountable on a pitch that is behaving pretty well - but NZ certainly can't afford these last 2 wickets to hang around for long.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:10 am**

NZ bowled just 23 overs in that session - that is really abysmal.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:15 am**

Ovals wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:10 am NZ bowled just 23 overs in that session - that is really abysmal.

Shameful, should probably forfeit the series for that

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:29 am**

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:15 am
Ovals wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:10 am NZ bowled just 23 overs in that session - that is really abysmal.
Shameful, should probably forfeit the series for that

At least.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:36 am**

Ovals wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:10 am NZ bowled just 23 overs in that session - that is really abysmal.

To be fair, the fielders did spend a lot of time retrieving balls from the boundary.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:09 am**

England all done for a lead of 151. Some pretty impressive stroke play right down the order, aided by some sloppy catching that is very unlike the BCs.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:31 am**

Latham gone for 1.

We'll be lucky to avoid an innings defeat now.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:00 am**

Cheating Pommy bastards — imagine the gall of these pricks holding on to every chance we give them,

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:05 am**

Kane reaches a landmark of 9,000 test runs, a couple of innings slower than Tendulkar but ahead of Gavaskar, G Smith and Root, et.al.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:11 am**

Total sucker punch gets Ravindra

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:36 am**

Williamson gone, quickly followed bt Blundell for a golden duck.

The end is nigh...

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:45 am**

‘Twas a lovely ball that got KW but I reckon we chucked two reviews away there.

Surely Young has to be in the team in Wellington

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:43 am**

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:15 am
Ovals wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:10 am NZ bowled just 23 overs in that session - that is really abysmal.
Shameful, should probably forfeit the series for that

Both sides should forfeit WTC points for sure - heaps of cash too please.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:49 pm**

Enzedder wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:43 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:15 am
Ovals wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:10 am NZ bowled just 23 overs in that session - that is really abysmal.
Shameful, should probably forfeit the series for that
Both sides should forfeit WTC points for sure - heaps of cash too please.

Yes, I agree, and we should abandon this game, erase it from cricket history completely.

As stated in the open post, England are something of a banana skin for the BCs. Another false dawn perhaps for BC supporters.

How's the weather looking in Canterbury, it's pissing down here, only probably is I'm across the ditch, unless we are talking one hell of a weather front. Yes Brits, it does rain in Oz on occasion.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:59 pm**

Combination of brilliant batting by the England middle order and shithouse fielding by NZ means this will be done and dusted by Lunch.

On the slow over rates... there have been just 243 overs bowled in the first 3 days. There should've been 270 bowled, so that's 27 overs, or almost an entire session, lost out of 9 scheduled sessions. That's 10% of the game the punters have paid for but not received... so far. Pathetic.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:44 pm**

Brydon Carse gets the first Michelle of his test career.

NZ 192/8, a lead of 41.

Posted: **Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:52 pm**

Gumboot wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 10:44 pm Brydon Carse gets the first Michelle of his test career.

NZ 192/8, a lead of 41.

Stokes has to bring on Atkinson midway through his own over - some sort of problem with his leg. Doesn't bode well for his bowling future.

Posted: **Sun Dec 01, 2024 12:14 am**

Ovals wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:10 am NZ bowled just 23 overs in that session - that is really abysmal.

Cricket Australia would be handing out penalties like they were going out of business for this bollocks. Seriously the crowd should ask for their dosh back.

Posted: **Sun Dec 01, 2024 12:19 am**

NZ all out for 254 with Mitchell getting 84 thanks to some staunch support from Will O'Rourke.

Carse ends up with 6 wickets.

England needs 104 runs, which they should knock off by Tea... or maybe even Drinks if they go full Bazball.

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