Ashes / Proteas vs India

[handyman]

Eng in Aus and Ind in SA, mouthwatering cricket to look forward to.

[JM2K6]

It's only day 2. England will fight back. To much class in that team.

No there isn't. There's a couple of class players, a couple of worthy triers, and a handful of guys who might be good enough with enough time and coaching but who are currently out of their depth. Our results don't lie: we are absolute shit.

If there isn't enough class in that team, you'll never get enough.

It's the worst team we've had in decades. Christ, the 2013 side - which was far from perfect - had Cook, Pietersen, Anderson, Bell, Broad, Onions, Swann, Root, Prior, Trott, Tremlett, etc. The current side, especially from a batting perspective, is absolute piss.

[OomStruisbaai]

No there isn't. There's a couple of class players, a couple of worthy triers, and a handful of guys who might be good enough with enough time and coaching but who are currently out of their depth. Our results don't lie: we are absolute shit.

If there isn't enough class in that team, you'll never get enough.

It's the worst team we've had in decades. Christ, the 2013 side - which was far from perfect - had Cook, Pietersen, Anderson, Bell, Broad, Onions, Swann, Root, Prior, Trott, Tremlett, etc. The current side, especially from a batting perspective, is absolute piss.

Kak man. I'll give you a match winner, Ben Stokes.

[Torquemada 1420]

If there isn't enough class in that team, you'll never get enough.

It's the worst team we've had in decades. Christ, the 2013 side - which was far from perfect - had Cook, Pietersen, Anderson, Bell, Broad, Onions, Swann, Root, Prior, Trott, Tremlett, etc. The current side, especially from a batting perspective, is absolute piss.

Kak man. I'll give you a match winner, Ben Stokes.

Who has been injured. And anyway, one man can't rescue an entire side. Well, mostly. Maybe Imran did that for Pak, Hadlee for NZ and Mike Procter who was so influential, Glos was knows as Proctershire.

[JM2K6]

If there isn't enough class in that team, you'll never get enough.

It's the worst team we've had in decades. Christ, the 2013 side - which was far from perfect - had Cook, Pietersen, Anderson, Bell, Broad, Onions, Swann, Root, Prior, Trott, Tremlett, etc. The current side, especially from a batting perspective, is absolute piss.

Kak man. I'll give you a match winner, Ben Stokes.

And? Root averages 50. That doesn't change a thing - it's a dreadful batting lineup. In the last four years, when batting first, we've had 6 scores over 400, another 8 over 300, and SIXTEEN under 300. When batting first. That includes innings of 58, 85, 112, 147, 183, 184, and 187. In the best batting conditions. In all, our first innings (regardless of batting first or not) has thirteen instances of being bowled out for under 200, and another 12 under 300. It's absolute shit. Needless to say, it doesn't improve in our second innings at all.

You can wank on all you like about individuals but Stokes doesn't deliver all the time and Root has carried the team.

[OomStruisbaai]

Root now is a much more experience player and captain compare to the youngster.

Are you a humble English bragger?

[FalseBayFC]

It's the worst team we've had in decades. Christ, the 2013 side - which was far from perfect - had Cook, Pietersen, Anderson, Bell, Broad, Onions, Swann, Root, Prior, Trott, Tremlett, etc. The current side, especially from a batting perspective, is absolute piss.

Kak man. I'll give you a match winner, Ben Stokes.

And? Root averages 50. That doesn't change a thing - it's a dreadful batting lineup. In the last four years, when batting first, we've had 6 scores over 400, another 8 over 300, and SIXTEEN under 300. When batting first. That includes innings of 58, 85, 112, 147, 183, 184, and 187. In the best batting conditions. In all, our first innings (regardless of batting first or not) has thirteen instances of being bowled out for under 200, and another 12 under 300. It's absolute shit. Needless to say, it doesn't improve in our second innings at all.

You can wank on all you like about individuals but Stokes doesn't deliver all the time and Root has carried the team.

Take out Root and Stokes and the rest of the English batting lineup have 10 test centuries between 9 of them. But they also miss Broad, Archer and Anderson and a decent spinner. They'll do well to get 1 win in this series.

[JM2K6]

Root now is a much more experience player and captain compare to the youngster.

Are you a humble English bragger?

Root is in fantastic form but will never be a great captain. Like I said, he's carried the team. That's acknowledging how good he is - the problem is no one else comes close. You do realise it's a team sport, yeah? And how the hell do you humble brag about repeated batting collapses?

[Ymx]

Sheffield shield.

I guess it’s all down to the tv companies not wanting to pay for them but going into a Test in Oz without a few warm-up matches seems a recipe for disaster. And of course few if any matches in between Tests means no chances for players to get back into form.

It's only day 2. England will fight back. To much class in that team.

Oom seemingly knows more than the supporters. Picked the fight back.

What’s going to happen next Oom?

[OomStruisbaai]

I guess it’s all down to the tv companies not wanting to pay for them but going into a Test in Oz without a few warm-up matches seems a recipe for disaster. And of course few if any matches in between Tests means no chances for players to get back into form.

It's only day 2. England will fight back. To much class in that team.

Oom seemingly knows more than the supporters. Picked the fight back.

What’s going to happen next Oom?

I don't know the pitch but England need to bat through day 4, get Doos Warner cheap and its game on.

[JM2K6]

I guess it’s all down to the tv companies not wanting to pay for them but going into a Test in Oz without a few warm-up matches seems a recipe for disaster. And of course few if any matches in between Tests means no chances for players to get back into form.

It's only day 2. England will fight back. To much class in that team.

Oom seemingly knows more than the supporters. Picked the fight back.

What’s going to happen next Oom?

This aged well, didn't it. Turns out Oom is talking shit again.

[Hal Jordan]

Nothing like turning on the telly and seeing England shitting their pants AGAIN.

[Kiwias]

I guess it’s all down to the tv companies not wanting to pay for them but going into a Test in Oz without a few warm-up matches seems a recipe for disaster. And of course few if any matches in between Tests means no chances for players to get back into form.

It's only day 2. England will fight back. To much class in that team.

Oom seemingly knows more than the supporters. Picked the fight back.

What’s going to happen next Oom?

Give Oom some credit: England did take it into Day 4

[FalseBayFC]

Oh crap! Looks like I'll have to do something productive with my Saturday morning like mow the lawn.

[OomStruisbaai]

It's only day 2. England will fight back. To much class in that team.

Oom seemingly knows more than the supporters. Picked the fight back.

What’s going to happen next Oom?

This aged well, didn't it. Turns out Oom is talking shit again.

Vokof, sad tosser.

[OomStruisbaai]

Now England will need to regroup and show some strong character to come back from the loss.

[OomStruisbaai]

Oh crap! Looks like I'll have to do something productive with my Saturday morning like mow the lawn.

Time for the beach and spare ribs tonight.

[Rinkals]

When I played cricket in Scotland (yes, I know), we had a young fast bowler in our team who was prone to deliberately bowling beamers at batsmen he considered too obdurate. Naturally, these were followed up by effuse apologies, but he would cheerfully admit over drinks with his team mates that he never bowled a beamer by accident.

I know that Wood duly apologised to Head and Head appeared to accept the apology, but I remain unconvinced.

I am reminded of Jofra Archer bowling consecutive beamers at the Proteas number 11 previously.

As I recall, that was one full toss and one beamer. And if you're going so far as to accuse Mark fucking Wood - a player who's biggest problem is he's too nice - of doing it deliberately, then you'd be at odds with pretty much everyone who's played with or against him. But then you're a massive cunt when it comes to England, so big shock there.

You recall incorrectly.

The first one was chest high, the following ball slightly lower, but not called, even though it was over waist high.

Regardless, this was at our number 11.

Imagine if it had been Rabada bowling at Jimmy Anderson.

My point is that England have previous and I'm not convinced that the beamer at Head was accidental.

[Ymx]

It's only day 2. England will fight back. To much class in that team.

Oom seemingly knows more than the supporters. Picked the fight back.

What’s going to happen next Oom?

This aged well, didn't it. Turns out Oom is talking shit again.

What the hell are you on about you miserable little twunt ?

Since Ooms first post to mine England did a massive fight back to get 220/2 (at stumps) and only 50 ish runs behind at the point of that post.

Slightly irrelevant what comes next, he picked the fight back.

[Ymx]

Anyway …

So 220/2 and then the next day 77/8.

For those who watched it live (I only saw the highlights), was the pitch different on day 4? Or just that the Aussies struck and smelled blood?

[Torquemada 1420]

This aged well, didn't it. Turns out Oom is talking shit again.

FM. Yet another abject collapse. Once again, Root goes and ship sinks faster than the Arizona.

[Torquemada 1420]

Root now is a much more experience player and captain compare to the youngster.

Are you a humble English bragger?

Root is in fantastic form but will never be a great captain. Like I said, he's carried the team. That's acknowledging how good he is - the problem is no one else comes close. You do realise it's a team sport, yeah? And how the hell do you humble brag about repeated batting collapses?

And Root has never made a ton in Aus...

[Torquemada 1420]

Kak man. I'll give you a match winner, Ben Stokes.

I give you
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/202 ... es-opener/

[Ymx]

England’s cricketers have been fined 100 per cent of their match fees and penalised five World Test Championship points for slow overrates during the first Ashes Test in Brisbane.

Ouch.

[Ymx]

Class.

[JM2K6]

Oom seemingly knows more than the supporters. Picked the fight back.

What’s going to happen next Oom?

This aged well, didn't it. Turns out Oom is talking shit again.

What the hell are you on about you miserable little twunt ?

Since Ooms first post to mine England did a massive fight back to get 220/2 (at stumps) and only 50 ish runs behind at the point of that post.

Slightly irrelevant what comes next, he picked the fight back.

The point, dipshit, is that Oom does this constantly and is constantly wrong. Root being good doesn't change the fact that England are shit. He's more than happy to declare we're talking bollocks when we point out with factual evidence that England are absolute shit and have a dreadful batting lineup. He said I was talking "kak"! Well, one of us was proven right, because despite batting first, we got annihilated by nine wickets by lunch on day four.

Anyone with any actual knowledge of English cricket knew this was incredibly likely to happen. Dribble on about a "fight back" all you like - we saw Joe Root get 190 not out earlier this year and England still lost by more than 150 runs.

So yeah, I'm not the one talking kak.

[JM2K6]

Oom seemingly knows more than the supporters. Picked the fight back.

What’s going to happen next Oom?

This aged well, didn't it. Turns out Oom is talking shit again.

Vokof, sad tosser.

Kak man.

[JM2K6]

When I played cricket in Scotland (yes, I know), we had a young fast bowler in our team who was prone to deliberately bowling beamers at batsmen he considered too obdurate. Naturally, these were followed up by effuse apologies, but he would cheerfully admit over drinks with his team mates that he never bowled a beamer by accident.

I know that Wood duly apologised to Head and Head appeared to accept the apology, but I remain unconvinced.

I am reminded of Jofra Archer bowling consecutive beamers at the Proteas number 11 previously.

As I recall, that was one full toss and one beamer. And if you're going so far as to accuse Mark fucking Wood - a player who's biggest problem is he's too nice - of doing it deliberately, then you'd be at odds with pretty much everyone who's played with or against him. But then you're a massive cunt when it comes to England, so big shock there.

You recall incorrectly.

The first one was chest high, the following ball slightly lower, but not called, even though it was over waist high.

Regardless, this was at our number 11.

Imagine if it had been Rabada bowling at Jimmy Anderson.

My point is that England have previous and I'm not convinced that the beamer at Head was accidental.

So it was one full toss and one beamer - we've established you're not at all objective over this stuff, so let's trust the officials and the technology (especially as I remember the incident in question). And your assertion is that because Archer did that a few years ago to a number 11, Mark Wood did it deliberately to Travis Head. Right. Definitely sticking with my original assessment.

[Big Nipper]

This aged well, didn't it. Turns out Oom is talking shit again.

What the hell are you on about you miserable little twunt ?

Since Ooms first post to mine England did a massive fight back to get 220/2 (at stumps) and only 50 ish runs behind at the point of that post.

Slightly irrelevant what comes next, he picked the fight back.

The point, dipshit, is that Oom does this constantly and is constantly wrong. Root being good doesn't change the fact that England are shit. He's more than happy to declare we're talking bollocks when we point out with factual evidence that England are absolute shit and have a dreadful batting lineup. He said I was talking "kak"! Well, one of us was proven right, because despite batting first, we got annihilated by nine wickets by lunch on day four.

Anyone with any actual knowledge of English cricket knew this was incredibly likely to happen. Dribble on about a "fight back" all you like - we saw Joe Root get 190 not out earlier this year and England still lost by more than 150 runs.

So yeah, I'm not the one talking kak.

Why do you even bother with oom, the oke can barely string together a coherent sentence unless it involves an chicken runner who used to be at school in the Boland

[OomStruisbaai]

What the hell are you on about you miserable little twunt ?

Since Ooms first post to mine England did a massive fight back to get 220/2 (at stumps) and only 50 ish runs behind at the point of that post.

Slightly irrelevant what comes next, he picked the fight back.

The point, dipshit, is that Oom does this constantly and is constantly wrong. Root being good doesn't change the fact that England are shit. He's more than happy to declare we're talking bollocks when we point out with factual evidence that England are absolute shit and have a dreadful batting lineup. He said I was talking "kak"! Well, one of us was proven right, because despite batting first, we got annihilated by nine wickets by lunch on day four.

Anyone with any actual knowledge of English cricket knew this was incredibly likely to happen. Dribble on about a "fight back" all you like - we saw Joe Root get 190 not out earlier this year and England still lost by more than 150 runs.

So yeah, I'm not the one talking kak.

Why do you even bother with oom, the oke can barely string together a coherent sentence unless it involves an chicken runner who used to be at school in the Boland

You support the Aussies. Vokof to PR, your Aussie trollers are all there. Join them in the fun.

[Gumboot]

England’s first Ashes test went from bad to worse on Saturday, after the ICC (International Cricket Council) slammed them with huge penalties for their slow over rate during the match.

Joe Root’s side were crushed by nine wickets early in the second session of day four in Brisbane then later that evening all England players were fined 100 per cent of their match fees by match referee David Boon, and the team had five World Test Championship points docked, having fallen five overs short of their targets after adjusting for time allowances.

Very happy to see this stuff being rigidly enforced. Feckin' hate slow over rates.

[Grandpa]

England’s first Ashes test went from bad to worse on Saturday, after the ICC (International Cricket Council) slammed them with huge penalties for their slow over rate during the match.

Joe Root’s side were crushed by nine wickets early in the second session of day four in Brisbane then later that evening all England players were fined 100 per cent of their match fees by match referee David Boon, and the team had five World Test Championship points docked, having fallen five overs short of their targets after adjusting for time allowances.

Very happy to see this stuff being rigidly enforced. Feckin' hate slow over rates.

Imagine if they hadn't of picked Jack Leach!

The new avatar... looks familiar...

[Gumboot]

The new avatar... looks familiar...

Yeah, can't remember if I've used it before tbh. It's a quick charcoal sketch of an old mate.

[Rinkals]

I can't say I understand the obsession with over rates, particularly in games which end early.

Of course, when games are affected by weather, or a tight result, there may be a case for ensuring that the minimum overs are bowled, but a blanket sanction where there is no meaningful impact seems contrived, and I doubt that anyone (apart from the broadcasters) really cares.

[Gumboot]

I can't say I understand the obsession with over rates, particularly in games which end early.

Of course, when games are affected by weather, or a tight result, there may be a case for ensuring that the minimum overs are bowled, but a blanket sanction where there is no meaningful impact seems contrived, and I doubt that anyone (apart from the broadcasters) really cares.

Why should cricket be any different to other sports in terms of duration of play regulations? If there are 90 overs designated in a day then, weather permitting, 90 overs must be bowled in a day. The players shouldn't be allowed to decide otherwise, to the detriment of the paying punter, just because they can't be arsed getting a move on.

[duke]

England’s first Ashes test went from bad to worse on Saturday, after the ICC (International Cricket Council) slammed them with huge penalties for their slow over rate during the match.

Joe Root’s side were crushed by nine wickets early in the second session of day four in Brisbane then later that evening all England players were fined 100 per cent of their match fees by match referee David Boon, and the team had five World Test Championship points docked, having fallen five overs short of their targets after adjusting for time allowances.

Very happy to see this stuff being rigidly enforced. Feckin' hate slow over rates.

Have the regulations on slow over rates changed recently? The level of fine seems far higher than any others that I can recall.

[Ymx]

I think it’s only been since the World Test Championship that they’ve started really going at it. Deducting competition points. Though not sure I’ve seen a 100% match fee before.

[OomStruisbaai]

David Boon has always been a doos. Slow bowling rate is always questionable because the batters can slow it down aswell.

[JM2K6]

I can't say I understand the obsession with over rates, particularly in games which end early.

Of course, when games are affected by weather, or a tight result, there may be a case for ensuring that the minimum overs are bowled, but a blanket sanction where there is no meaningful impact seems contrived, and I doubt that anyone (apart from the broadcasters) really cares.

Fans care. Certainly in this country it's been a source of anger for some time.

[OomStruisbaai]

The show move to Adelaide, usually a spinner pitch. Hope England have two and win the toss.