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Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:14 am
SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:04 am Though not sure the PM has ever been a wifebeater like his father
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nsons-home
Police were called to the home of Boris Johnson and his partner, Carrie Symonds, in the early hours of Friday morning after neighbours heard a loud altercation involving screaming, shouting and banging.
A long way from wifebeating.
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Yes, that sounds like a regular night for many of us.
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'Man has an argument with his partner' is probably not the greatest scandal Boris has ever been involved in.
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JM2K6 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:31 am
Insane_Homer wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:14 am
SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:04 am Though not sure the PM has ever been a wifebeater like his father
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nsons-home
Police were called to the home of Boris Johnson and his partner, Carrie Symonds, in the early hours of Friday morning after neighbours heard a loud altercation involving screaming, shouting and banging.
A long way from wifebeating.
Wasn't there a rumour about his first wife having a restraining order placed on him.
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Someone in No 10 has managed to persuade the blonde slug that the last couple of weeks hasn't been too edifying
Probably more to do with the pummelling he would be getting at Question Time and the Opposition Day motion that Labour will be proposing tomorrow
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SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:44 pm Someone in No 10 has managed to persuade the blonde slug that the last couple of weeks hasn't been too edifying
Probably more to do with the pummelling he would be getting at Question Time and the Opposition Day motion that Labour will be proposing tomorrow
Imagine how annoyed his MPs are going to be. Lost a very cushy and lucrative lifestyle all because Charles Moore wanted to help his mate Charles Patterson avoid a 30 day suspension.
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There's always that one person who has to take it too far and ruin the fun for everyone.
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Banning being a "political or Parliamentary consultant or adviser" probably leaves quite a lot of wiggle room for people to be non-political / Parliamentary consultants or advisers.
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SaintK wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:44 pm Someone in No 10 has managed to persuade the blonde slug that the last couple of weeks hasn't been too edifying
Probably more to do with the pummelling he would be getting at Question Time and the Opposition Day motion that Labour will be proposing tomorrow
"It's not grandstanding, just so happens to be announced the day before PMQ, honest..."
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Mahoney wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:06 pm Banning being a "political or Parliamentary consultant or adviser" probably leaves quite a lot of wiggle room for people to be non-political / Parliamentary consultants or advisers.
Exactly; & the bit about it not being prioritized over the duties; is easily remedied, by reducing the declared hours worked on their side gigs.

So Deadwood will now say he only spends 25 hours a month on his gig; instead of 50, & can claim it all happens on his weekends; so no conflict.
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Clear as mud then!! Better known as making it up as you go along :crazy:
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Not sure why Laura Kuennsberg is framing a corruption scandal u turn in such a way that makes labour look bad. Very curious indeed.
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:43 am
Not sure why Laura Kuennsberg is framing a corruption scandal u turn in such a way that makes labour look bad. Very curious indeed.
I wonder will she move directly to Head of Communications for the Tories; or write a fawning Biography of the; "Dear Leader", beforehand ?

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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:46 am
I like neeps wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:43 am
Not sure why Laura Kuennsberg is framing a corruption scandal u turn in such a way that makes labour look bad. Very curious indeed.
I wonder will she move directly to Head of Communications for the Tories; or write a fawning Biography of the; "Dear Leader", beforehand ?

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Peston and kuennsberg access to exclusives and leaks requires them to brown nose and bootlick so it isn't surprising.
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:43 am

Not sure why Laura Kuennsberg is framing a corruption scandal u turn in such a way that makes labour look bad. Very curious indeed.
It's beyond a joke at this stage
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JM2K6 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:24 pm
I like neeps wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:43 am

Not sure why Laura Kuennsberg is framing a corruption scandal u turn in such a way that makes labour look bad. Very curious indeed.
It's beyond a joke at this stage
It will be interesting to see how she reports on the Blonde Slug's monstering by Starmer at PMQ's today. He was torn a new one!
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:lol: :lol: Oh the irony! Perhaps he might want to ask his party lerader to dial down the bull-shit slinging every time he opens his mouth!
Meanwhile, back in the Commons, MPs continue to debate proposed changes to rules surrounding their ability to work second jobs.
Tory MP Mark Fletcher says recent headlines about MPs' second jobs "simply reinforce" what the public feels about politicians.
But he argues this is unfair and urges Labour and other opposition parties to "dial down the mud-slinging" against Conservatives.
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SaintK wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:40 pm :lol: :lol: Oh the irony! Perhaps he might want to ask his party lerader to dial down the bull-shit slinging every time he opens his mouth!
Meanwhile, back in the Commons, MPs continue to debate proposed changes to rules surrounding their ability to work second jobs.
Tory MP Mark Fletcher says recent headlines about MPs' second jobs "simply reinforce" what the public feels about politicians.
But he argues this is unfair and urges Labour and other opposition parties to "dial down the mud-slinging" against Conservatives.
The party seems to be packed full of school bullies who run off when called out and pretend to be the victims.
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SaintK wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:17 am Clear as mud then!! Better known as making it up as you go along :crazy:
I think it’s totally impractical to dream up some sort of approved time allocation. The main thing I’m bothered about is making sure that MPs aren’t paid to try to influence Government policy.
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GogLais wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:03 pm
I think it’s totally impractical to dream up some sort of approved time allocation. The main thing I’m bothered about is making sure that MPs aren’t paid to try to influence Government policy.
It's, by definition; an MPs job to,"influence Government policy.".

The question is; are they doing it for their Constituents; who pay them 82k, for 40+ hrs a week; or for Scumbag Inc; that pays the 100k+, for 8 hrs a week ? ........ hmmm
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Death throws for current Gov and PM now. Tory party looks to have decided that he isn't fit for purpose now and is more a liability than an asset. Brexit fecked up - EU and US holding all the cards, covid going to be bad this winter, corruption scandal/sleaze issues & cock ups, Tory shit in seas and rivers vote debacle, HS2 retreat from north, Acuri scandal back in press, Daily Heil and Express openly hostile now, Blonde Bumblecunt's dad a pervert ... it goes on and on. It will be interesting to see what happens in 1922 meeting tonight but it looks like the shoogly peg is ready to fall off the wall. They will want shot of him before the real major shit comes out about fraudulent PPE contracts and further investigations into the BB himself drag them all into a real mire - they need him out so they have a ready excuse for all the shit and can throw the blame for all this crap onto him and his bunch of Brexit Ultras. They need a year or two to recover before the next election, Sunak is their chosen one. It is going to be a nasty few weeks for the Tory twats.
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:09 pm
GogLais wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:03 pm
I think it’s totally impractical to dream up some sort of approved time allocation. The main thing I’m bothered about is making sure that MPs aren’t paid to try to influence Government policy.
It's, by definition; an MPs job to,"influence Government policy.".

The question is; are they doing it for their Constituents; who pay them 82k, for 40+ hrs a week; or for Scumbag Inc; that pays the 100k+, for 8 hrs a week ? ........ hmmm
I obviously (I hope) meant payment by third parties and not their MP salary. It should be possible to create a mechanism that outlaws corruption and permits MPs to carry out legitimate paid work, if somebody has the energy to do their MP’s job and do a bit of lawyering or whatever on the side then I’m not hung up about it.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59307270

This interesting! Never really heard of these groups before but £30m over 5 years is a lot of 'sponsorship'. Many will be legit and run on cross party lines and be fully transparent but it would appear there are some that seem to attract funding from pretty dodgy sources, if you can find out who funds them! As BBC suggest the next focus for investigation? The smell of shit from Westminster doesn't go away and it would appear a lot of mostly Tory MPs are desperate for the attention to disappear.
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dpedin wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:14 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59307270

This interesting! Never really heard of these groups before but £30m over 5 years is a lot of 'sponsorship'. Many will be legit and run on cross party lines and be fully transparent but it would appear there are some that seem to attract funding from pretty dodgy sources, if you can find out who funds them! As BBC suggest the next focus for investigation? The smell of shit from Westminster doesn't go away and it would appear a lot of mostly Tory MPs are desperate for the attention to disappear.
Are the "European Research Group" and "Covid Research Group" the same? They always seemed like a fucking con.
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JM2K6 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:55 pm
dpedin wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:14 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59307270

This interesting! Never really heard of these groups before but £30m over 5 years is a lot of 'sponsorship'. Many will be legit and run on cross party lines and be fully transparent but it would appear there are some that seem to attract funding from pretty dodgy sources, if you can find out who funds them! As BBC suggest the next focus for investigation? The smell of shit from Westminster doesn't go away and it would appear a lot of mostly Tory MPs are desperate for the attention to disappear.
Are the "European Research Group" and "Covid Research Group" the same? They always seemed like a fucking con.
Isn't the ERG in some weird zombie state; where it's able to get funding from the Public; but doesn't have to account for it, hence the "Research Group" bit ?
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Oh no.
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And Preston has the scrote Jenrick on ....

Oh ... and for balance; Len McCluskey

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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:50 pm And Preston has the scrote Jenrick on ....
You'd think that they'd want to keep him hidden away as much as possible
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sturginho wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:54 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:50 pm And Preston has the scrote Jenrick on ....
You'd think that they'd want to keep him hidden away as much as possible
they clearly need a bigger fridge ..... time to call the donors again ......
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dpedin wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:35 pm Death throws for current Gov and PM now. Tory party looks to have decided that he isn't fit for purpose now and is more a liability than an asset. Brexit fecked up - EU and US holding all the cards, covid going to be bad this winter, corruption scandal/sleaze issues & cock ups, Tory shit in seas and rivers vote debacle, HS2 retreat from north, Acuri scandal back in press, Daily Heil and Express openly hostile now, Blonde Bumblecunt's dad a pervert ... it goes on and on. It will be interesting to see what happens in 1922 meeting tonight but it looks like the shoogly peg is ready to fall off the wall. They will want shot of him before the real major shit comes out about fraudulent PPE contracts and further investigations into the BB himself drag them all into a real mire - they need him out so they have a ready excuse for all the shit and can throw the blame for all this crap onto him and his bunch of Brexit Ultras. They need a year or two to recover before the next election, Sunak is their chosen one. It is going to be a nasty few weeks for the Tory twats.
Disagree. Why kick him out before more shit comes out. Surely kick him out as it comes out if at all. Not like the Tories need to win the working age population vote and they will hoover up the over 60 vote who vote for anything with a blue rosette.
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petej wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:43 pm
dpedin wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:35 pm Death throws for current Gov and PM now. Tory party looks to have decided that he isn't fit for purpose now and is more a liability than an asset. Brexit fecked up - EU and US holding all the cards, covid going to be bad this winter, corruption scandal/sleaze issues & cock ups, Tory shit in seas and rivers vote debacle, HS2 retreat from north, Acuri scandal back in press, Daily Heil and Express openly hostile now, Blonde Bumblecunt's dad a pervert ... it goes on and on. It will be interesting to see what happens in 1922 meeting tonight but it looks like the shoogly peg is ready to fall off the wall. They will want shot of him before the real major shit comes out about fraudulent PPE contracts and further investigations into the BB himself drag them all into a real mire - they need him out so they have a ready excuse for all the shit and can throw the blame for all this crap onto him and his bunch of Brexit Ultras. They need a year or two to recover before the next election, Sunak is their chosen one. It is going to be a nasty few weeks for the Tory twats.
Disagree. Why kick him out before more shit comes out. Surely kick him out as it comes out if at all. Not like the Tories need to win the working age population vote and they will hoover up the over 60 vote who vote for anything with a blue rosette.
Will the Tory Party membership vote for King Rishi ?

They only voted for Maggie; because she had bigger balls than the alternatives ...... is Rishi whiter than the alternatives ?
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:52 pm
petej wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:43 pm
dpedin wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:35 pm Death throws for current Gov and PM now. Tory party looks to have decided that he isn't fit for purpose now and is more a liability than an asset. Brexit fecked up - EU and US holding all the cards, covid going to be bad this winter, corruption scandal/sleaze issues & cock ups, Tory shit in seas and rivers vote debacle, HS2 retreat from north, Acuri scandal back in press, Daily Heil and Express openly hostile now, Blonde Bumblecunt's dad a pervert ... it goes on and on. It will be interesting to see what happens in 1922 meeting tonight but it looks like the shoogly peg is ready to fall off the wall. They will want shot of him before the real major shit comes out about fraudulent PPE contracts and further investigations into the BB himself drag them all into a real mire - they need him out so they have a ready excuse for all the shit and can throw the blame for all this crap onto him and his bunch of Brexit Ultras. They need a year or two to recover before the next election, Sunak is their chosen one. It is going to be a nasty few weeks for the Tory twats.
Disagree. Why kick him out before more shit comes out. Surely kick him out as it comes out if at all. Not like the Tories need to win the working age population vote and they will hoover up the over 60 vote who vote for anything with a blue rosette.
Will the Tory Party membership vote for King Rishi ?

They only voted for Maggie; because she had bigger balls than the alternatives ...... is Rishi whiter than the alternatives ?
Would suggest you're creating a Tory party in your mind rather than engaging with the one that exists. Tory members are very comfortable with Sunak, Javid, Patel etc.
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:52 pm
petej wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:43 pm
dpedin wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:35 pm Death throws for current Gov and PM now. Tory party looks to have decided that he isn't fit for purpose now and is more a liability than an asset. Brexit fecked up - EU and US holding all the cards, covid going to be bad this winter, corruption scandal/sleaze issues & cock ups, Tory shit in seas and rivers vote debacle, HS2 retreat from north, Acuri scandal back in press, Daily Heil and Express openly hostile now, Blonde Bumblecunt's dad a pervert ... it goes on and on. It will be interesting to see what happens in 1922 meeting tonight but it looks like the shoogly peg is ready to fall off the wall. They will want shot of him before the real major shit comes out about fraudulent PPE contracts and further investigations into the BB himself drag them all into a real mire - they need him out so they have a ready excuse for all the shit and can throw the blame for all this crap onto him and his bunch of Brexit Ultras. They need a year or two to recover before the next election, Sunak is their chosen one. It is going to be a nasty few weeks for the Tory twats.
Disagree. Why kick him out before more shit comes out. Surely kick him out as it comes out if at all. Not like the Tories need to win the working age population vote and they will hoover up the over 60 vote who vote for anything with a blue rosette.
Will the Tory Party membership vote for King Rishi ?

They only voted for Maggie; because she had bigger balls than the alternatives ...... is Rishi whiter than the alternatives ?
He's quite popular with the actual membership, if you ever speak to any of them. My family live in his constituency and I've got an aunt in his local Conservate Association - they've always been very taken with him.
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robmatic wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:26 am
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:52 pm
petej wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:43 pm

Disagree. Why kick him out before more shit comes out. Surely kick him out as it comes out if at all. Not like the Tories need to win the working age population vote and they will hoover up the over 60 vote who vote for anything with a blue rosette.
Will the Tory Party membership vote for King Rishi ?

They only voted for Maggie; because she had bigger balls than the alternatives ...... is Rishi whiter than the alternatives ?
He's quite popular with the actual membership, if you ever speak to any of them. My family live in his constituency and I've got an aunt in his local Conservate Association - they've always been very taken with him.
While I disagree with his politics, he does have the aura that would make a decent PM and statesman ( although he's not up against much competition in the Front Bench there ).
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petej wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:43 pm
dpedin wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:35 pm Death throws for current Gov and PM now. Tory party looks to have decided that he isn't fit for purpose now and is more a liability than an asset. Brexit fecked up - EU and US holding all the cards, covid going to be bad this winter, corruption scandal/sleaze issues & cock ups, Tory shit in seas and rivers vote debacle, HS2 retreat from north, Acuri scandal back in press, Daily Heil and Express openly hostile now, Blonde Bumblecunt's dad a pervert ... it goes on and on. It will be interesting to see what happens in 1922 meeting tonight but it looks like the shoogly peg is ready to fall off the wall. They will want shot of him before the real major shit comes out about fraudulent PPE contracts and further investigations into the BB himself drag them all into a real mire - they need him out so they have a ready excuse for all the shit and can throw the blame for all this crap onto him and his bunch of Brexit Ultras. They need a year or two to recover before the next election, Sunak is their chosen one. It is going to be a nasty few weeks for the Tory twats.
Disagree. Why kick him out before more shit comes out. Surely kick him out as it comes out if at all. Not like the Tories need to win the working age population vote and they will hoover up the over 60 vote who vote for anything with a blue rosette.
Over 60s might change their minds when the realise their pension is going up less than inflation - a pension cut - as the Tories have reneged on the triple lock promise and when the first hugely increased gas and electric bills pop through their letterbox they will blow a fuse. Of course the crumblies in the Shires don't worry too much about the costs but many others will. There is still a long way to go with corruption and sleaze particularly with the PPE contracts etc and the Blonde Bumblecunt can't cope with the intense focus on him and his Brexit Ultras. The DUP will blow a fuse when the UK inevitably settles on a WA deal with the EU and doesn't trigger Article 16 - the US won't let them - and it will be a difficult time in NI. It is all about timing but I suspect they will act sooner rather than later and want to be seen on the front foot before they get dragged too deep into the BB quicksand and can't escape. BB has served his purpose and the moneymen behind the scene will want rid asap.
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petej wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:43 pm
dpedin wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:35 pm Death throws for current Gov and PM now. Tory party looks to have decided that he isn't fit for purpose now and is more a liability than an asset. Brexit fecked up - EU and US holding all the cards, covid going to be bad this winter, corruption scandal/sleaze issues & cock ups, Tory shit in seas and rivers vote debacle, HS2 retreat from north, Acuri scandal back in press, Daily Heil and Express openly hostile now, Blonde Bumblecunt's dad a pervert ... it goes on and on. It will be interesting to see what happens in 1922 meeting tonight but it looks like the shoogly peg is ready to fall off the wall. They will want shot of him before the real major shit comes out about fraudulent PPE contracts and further investigations into the BB himself drag them all into a real mire - they need him out so they have a ready excuse for all the shit and can throw the blame for all this crap onto him and his bunch of Brexit Ultras. They need a year or two to recover before the next election, Sunak is their chosen one. It is going to be a nasty few weeks for the Tory twats.
Disagree. Why kick him out before more shit comes out. Surely kick him out as it comes out if at all. Not like the Tories need to win the working age population vote and they will hoover up the over 60 vote who vote for anything with a blue rosette.
The fate of the Tory party is tied to inflation and if/when interest rates go up and collapse the housing market it's goodnight Vienna.
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:00 am
petej wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:43 pm
dpedin wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:35 pm Death throws for current Gov and PM now. Tory party looks to have decided that he isn't fit for purpose now and is more a liability than an asset. Brexit fecked up - EU and US holding all the cards, covid going to be bad this winter, corruption scandal/sleaze issues & cock ups, Tory shit in seas and rivers vote debacle, HS2 retreat from north, Acuri scandal back in press, Daily Heil and Express openly hostile now, Blonde Bumblecunt's dad a pervert ... it goes on and on. It will be interesting to see what happens in 1922 meeting tonight but it looks like the shoogly peg is ready to fall off the wall. They will want shot of him before the real major shit comes out about fraudulent PPE contracts and further investigations into the BB himself drag them all into a real mire - they need him out so they have a ready excuse for all the shit and can throw the blame for all this crap onto him and his bunch of Brexit Ultras. They need a year or two to recover before the next election, Sunak is their chosen one. It is going to be a nasty few weeks for the Tory twats.
Disagree. Why kick him out before more shit comes out. Surely kick him out as it comes out if at all. Not like the Tories need to win the working age population vote and they will hoover up the over 60 vote who vote for anything with a blue rosette.
The fate of the Tory party is tied to inflation and if/when interest rates go up and collapse the housing market it's goodnight Vienna.
Agree that if house prices go down they are stuffed.
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