God bless you M’am

[Hal Jordan]

Jesus Wept.

I wonder if he's up for the catering for those in the queue. He's got the experience.

[Paddington Bear]

I live in Scotland and its piss easy to avoid.

Yup, I'm quite into it and haven't seen or heard a single thing about it today.

Apart from people who are not interested in it all talking about it.

Do you really think that is what's happening?

I think one can acknowledge that there is a significant historical event occurring but still be a bit bemused at how others are reacting, and in their masses to boot.

I feel the reaction is as noteworthy as the event itself, so it's worth a comment or two on an internet forum.

British Republicans are like vegans or Yorkshiremen, you never need to ask.

The 14 hour + queue is a very interesting human reaction in a number of ways, as others have said, and definitely worth commenting on. Most of the rest is just shit - this bored probably has a majority of posters who live in the UK and so the suggestion it's inescapable is just clearly untrue given that away from where the Royals are there really isn't tonnes going on and it's perfectly possible to live your life normally.

[tabascoboy]

Telegraph for some reason keen to report the negative

The queue to see the Queen lying in state has been branded a "complete shambles" after thousands of people were allowed to enter the line after the Government said it was shut.

At 9.52am, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport announced on Twitter that entry had been paused for "at least six hours".

But the message seemingly never made it to the attendants at the gate, and people were able to file through in their thousands.

It wasn't until almost two hours later at 11.36am that the gate was actually closed

https://twitter.com/i/events/1570688202146553859

[C69]

I hope they have food and water and toilets etc.
Really good opportunity to show the entrepreneurial spirit and provide services for these loyal subjects.
Loads of money to be made

[Dogbert]

They could liven the queue up a bit by starting a Conga

[Paddington Bear]

I hope they have food and water and toilets etc.
Really good opportunity to show the entrepreneurial spirit and provide services for these loyal subjects.
Loads of money to be made

There's portaloos along the whole route and you queue along South Bank which has no lack of places for food/water. People were pretty good at sharing things out as well, lots of tea being handed out etc. Everyone is chatting so 'can you watch my place whilst I grab a sandwich/go to the loo' seemed pretty common.

South Bank as it happens has no shortage of decent pubs either...

[Biffer]

Fair play to David Beckham, joined the queue at 2 am, waited for 12 hours to pay his respects. Shames a lot of lesser celebs who seem to have skipped the queue.

[C69]

I hope they have food and water and toilets etc.
Really good opportunity to show the entrepreneurial spirit and provide services for these loyal subjects.
Loads of money to be made

There's portaloos along the whole route and you queue along South Bank which has no lack of places for food/water. People were pretty good at sharing things out as well, lots of tea being handed out etc. Everyone is chatting so 'can you watch my place whilst I grab a sandwich/go to the loo' seemed pretty common.

South Bank as it happens has no shortage of decent pubs either...

Thanks glad to hear that.

[Biffer]

Of course, this is also a valid view

[tabascoboy]

Of course, this is also a valid view

How long before it's revealed that half the queue is comprised of homeless people who have cottoned on...

[Tichtheid]

Yup, I'm quite into it and haven't seen or heard a single thing about it today.

Apart from people who are not interested in it all talking about it.

Do you really think that is what's happening?

I think one can acknowledge that there is a significant historical event occurring but still be a bit bemused at how others are reacting, and in their masses to boot.

I feel the reaction is as noteworthy as the event itself, so it's worth a comment or two on an internet forum.

British Republicans are like vegans or Yorkshiremen, you never need to ask.

Whilst all the Jubilee celebrations, this current fortnight and every time the anthem is played and sung show what a quiet, retiring bunch monarchists are

The 14 hour + queue is a very interesting human reaction in a number of ways, as others have said, and definitely worth commenting on. Most of the rest is just shit - this bored probably has a majority of posters who live in the UK and so the suggestion it's inescapable is just clearly untrue given that away from where the Royals are there really isn't tonnes going on and it's perfectly possible to live your life normally.

Well, if you turn on a tv or radio, read a newspaper or even walk past the news agents on the street or in a supermarket you are going to be reminded that we are a nation in mourning.

[Paddington Bear]

Do you really think that is what's happening?

I think one can acknowledge that there is a significant historical event occurring but still be a bit bemused at how others are reacting, and in their masses to boot.

I feel the reaction is as noteworthy as the event itself, so it's worth a comment or two on an internet forum.

British Republicans are like vegans or Yorkshiremen, you never need to ask.

Whilst all the Jubilee celebrations, this current fortnight and every time the anthem is played and sung show what a quiet, retiring bunch monarchists are

The 14 hour + queue is a very interesting human reaction in a number of ways, as others have said, and definitely worth commenting on. Most of the rest is just shit - this bored probably has a majority of posters who live in the UK and so the suggestion it's inescapable is just clearly untrue given that away from where the Royals are there really isn't tonnes going on and it's perfectly possible to live your life normally.

Well, if you turn on a tv or radio, read a newspaper or even walk past the news agents on the street or in a supermarket you are going to be reminded that we are a nation in mourning.

Because the Head of State just died - what would you expect? Is there any country that would just ignore this?

If you don't want to follow don't watch the news and don't buy a paper - it isn't that hard.

[tabascoboy]

British Republicans are like vegans or Yorkshiremen, you never need to ask.

Whilst all the Jubilee celebrations, this current fortnight and every time the anthem is played and sung show what a quiet, retiring bunch monarchists are

The 14 hour + queue is a very interesting human reaction in a number of ways, as others have said, and definitely worth commenting on. Most of the rest is just shit - this bored probably has a majority of posters who live in the UK and so the suggestion it's inescapable is just clearly untrue given that away from where the Royals are there really isn't tonnes going on and it's perfectly possible to live your life normally.

Well, if you turn on a tv or radio, read a newspaper or even walk past the news agents on the street or in a supermarket you are going to be reminded that we are a nation in mourning.

Because the Head of State just died - what would you expect? Is there any country that would just ignore this?

If you don't want to follow don't watch the news and don't buy a paper - it isn't that hard.

And tough shit if you want to be informed of other UK and world news then...

[Wyndham Upalot]

People will always find offence whether they harbour sympathy or dislike for significant events such as this. Being neither a royalist or republican, I'm ambivalent to it all, have carried on working, and fortunately not been affected with the obvious disruption that's been happening nationally. I get the impression that some on here are trying rather too hard to 'get a rise' out of other more sensitive bordies ...

[Blackmac]

Of course, this is also a valid view

Yeah, I must admit to being a bit pissed off hearing about charities providing food and drink. Anyone stupid enough to join a 12 hour queue without basic provisions deserves no sympathy, especially from charities set up for more worthy causes than rewarding stupidity.

[Tichtheid]

British Republicans are like vegans or Yorkshiremen, you never need to ask.

Whilst all the Jubilee celebrations, this current fortnight and every time the anthem is played and sung show what a quiet, retiring bunch monarchists are

The 14 hour + queue is a very interesting human reaction in a number of ways, as others have said, and definitely worth commenting on. Most of the rest is just shit - this bored probably has a majority of posters who live in the UK and so the suggestion it's inescapable is just clearly untrue given that away from where the Royals are there really isn't tonnes going on and it's perfectly possible to live your life normally.

Well, if you turn on a tv or radio, read a newspaper or even walk past the news agents on the street or in a supermarket you are going to be reminded that we are a nation in mourning.

Because the Head of State just died - what would you expect? Is there any country that would just ignore this?

If you don't want to follow don't watch the news and don't buy a paper - it isn't that hard.

The point I'm trying to make is that it's not that easy to ignore what is going on.

For the record I don't particularly want to ignore it, as I already said, it's a significant historical event, but it's not true that you can easily ignore it completely if you have to take steps to not be informed about it - running around with your hands to your face, making pretend horse blinkers, is a bit weird.

I read the papers every day, I fully expected that there would be massive coverage of the events, to the detriment of other newsworthy stories, and so it has been.

[C69]

Whilst all the Jubilee celebrations, this current fortnight and every time the anthem is played and sung show what a quiet, retiring bunch monarchists are



Well, if you turn on a tv or radio, read a newspaper or even walk past the news agents on the street or in a supermarket you are going to be reminded that we are a nation in mourning.

Because the Head of State just died - what would you expect? Is there any country that would just ignore this?

If you don't want to follow don't watch the news and don't buy a paper - it isn't that hard.

The point I'm trying to make is that it's not that easy to ignore what is going on.

For the record I don't particularly want to ignore it, as I already said, it's a significant historical event, but it's not true that you can easily ignore it completely if you have to take steps to not be informed about it - running around with your hands to your face, making pretend horse blinkers, is a bit weird.

I read the papers every day, I fully expected that there would be massive coverage of the events, to the detriment of other newsworthy stories, and so it has been.

The issue is many of us who are ambivalent to this news want to see the world move on and not have saturation coverage 24/7.
There is no way you can just ignore this event. Thisis not news its bordering on a modern day hagiography of a nice oldl ady who felt she was a Monarch ordained by God. She believed her position was a divine and dynastic right.

[Guy Smiley]

Steady on there, old chap.

[Wyndham Upalot]

I served in the military and despite being a die-hard Welshman, had the utmost respect for the Queen and the Crown. To label me as a Royalist would be very wrong, equally as I've said previously, I'm not an anti-Royalist - I'm a straight down the middle Liberal.

The Daily Mail fawning is truly puke inducing, however the polar opposite attempts to rail against the vast public opinion of support for the monarchy, is simply embarrassing. She was our Head of State, she divided opinion, but fuck me, some people get unduly worked up about this. It's a once in a lifetime event, she's dead, Charlie takes over as a figurehead, we'll move on, the rich remain rich, the poor remain poor, and I'll be Joe Average. Who gives a flying fuck? I certainly don't. Rant Over - Merry Xmas

[Tichtheid]

I served in the military and despite being a die-hard Welshman, had the utmost respect for the Queen and the Crown. To label me as a Royalist would be very wrong, equally as I've said previously, I'm not an anti-Royalist - I'm a straight down the middle Liberal.

The Daily Mail fawning is truly puke inducing, however the polar opposite attempts to rail against the vast public opinion of support for the monarchy, is simply embarrassing. She was our Head of State, she divided opinion, but fuck me, some people get unduly worked up about this. It's a once in a lifetime event, she's dead, Charlie takes over as a figurehead, we'll move on, the rich remain rich, the poor remain poor, and I'll be Joe Average. Who gives a flying fuck? I certainly don't. Rant Over - Merry Xmas

55%

a lot less than that in some demographics,


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... r-monarchy

[Wyndham Upalot]

I served in the military and despite being a die-hard Welshman, had the utmost respect for the Queen and the Crown. To label me as a Royalist would be very wrong, equally as I've said previously, I'm not an anti-Royalist - I'm a straight down the middle Liberal.

The Daily Mail fawning is truly puke inducing, however the polar opposite attempts to rail against the vast public opinion of support for the monarchy, is simply embarrassing. She was our Head of State, she divided opinion, but fuck me, some people get unduly worked up about this. It's a once in a lifetime event, she's dead, Charlie takes over as a figurehead, we'll move on, the rich remain rich, the poor remain poor, and I'll be Joe Average. Who gives a flying fuck? I certainly don't. Rant Over - Merry Xmas

55%

a lot less than that in some demographics,


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... r-monarchy

A Grauniad based poll, viewed from a Guardian reader (myself). Yeah, lets give that a body swerve

[petej]

I served in the military and despite being a die-hard Welshman, had the utmost respect for the Queen and the Crown. To label me as a Royalist would be very wrong, equally as I've said previously, I'm not an anti-Royalist - I'm a straight down the middle Liberal.

The Daily Mail fawning is truly puke inducing, however the polar opposite attempts to rail against the vast public opinion of support for the monarchy, is simply embarrassing. She was our Head of State, she divided opinion, but fuck me, some people get unduly worked up about this. It's a once in a lifetime event, she's dead, Charlie takes over as a figurehead, we'll move on, the rich remain rich, the poor remain poor, and I'll be Joe Average. Who gives a flying fuck? I certainly don't. Rant Over - Merry Xmas

55%

a lot less than that in some demographics,


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... r-monarchy

A Grauniad based poll, viewed from a Guardian reader (myself). Yeah, lets give that a body swerve

Difference between the monarchy/Royal family and individual members. I suspect the queen had very good support while the friend of a known pedophile does not.

[Tichtheid]

I served in the military and despite being a die-hard Welshman, had the utmost respect for the Queen and the Crown. To label me as a Royalist would be very wrong, equally as I've said previously, I'm not an anti-Royalist - I'm a straight down the middle Liberal.

The Daily Mail fawning is truly puke inducing, however the polar opposite attempts to rail against the vast public opinion of support for the monarchy, is simply embarrassing. She was our Head of State, she divided opinion, but fuck me, some people get unduly worked up about this. It's a once in a lifetime event, she's dead, Charlie takes over as a figurehead, we'll move on, the rich remain rich, the poor remain poor, and I'll be Joe Average. Who gives a flying fuck? I certainly don't. Rant Over - Merry Xmas

55%

a lot less than that in some demographics,


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... r-monarchy

A Grauniad based poll, viewed from a Guardian reader (myself). Yeah, lets give that a body swerve

Three of the polls cited in the article were from YouGov, IPSOS and National Centre for Social Research.

You're perfectly at liberty to produce polls which show "the vast public opinion of support for the monarchy," as you put it.

I wanted to post a topic on Monarchies in general after Monday, to protect those who are sensitive and might think it too soon, but some pro-monarchy polling in the lead up would always be welcome.

[Wyndham Upalot]

55%

a lot less than that in some demographics,


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... r-monarchy

A Grauniad based poll, viewed from a Guardian reader (myself). Yeah, lets give that a body swerve

Three of the polls cited in the article were from YouGov, IPSOS and National Centre for Social Research.

You're perfectly at liberty to produce polls which show "the vast public opinion of support for the monarchy," as you put it.

I wanted to post a topic on Monarchies in general after Monday, to protect those who are sensitive and might think it too soon, but some pro-monarchy polling in the lead up would always be welcome.

Honestly, I really couldn't give a fuck. I'm happy to give in to the status quo. chill those jets dude!

[Tichtheid]

A Grauniad based poll, viewed from a Guardian reader (myself). Yeah, lets give that a body swerve

Three of the polls cited in the article were from YouGov, IPSOS and National Centre for Social Research.

You're perfectly at liberty to produce polls which show "the vast public opinion of support for the monarchy," as you put it.

I wanted to post a topic on Monarchies in general after Monday, to protect those who are sensitive and might think it too soon, but some pro-monarchy polling in the lead up would always be welcome.

Honestly, I really couldn't give a fuck. I'm happy to give in to the status quo. chill those jets dude!

Oh I'm relaxed enough.

I just questioned your assertion that there is a huge majority of support for the monarchy, I didn't think that was the case and wondered where you got the idea from, that's all.

No big deal.

[GogLais]

Just said on the news that Prince Andrew was wearing the uniform of a vice-admiral.

[Tichtheid]

Just said on the news that Prince Andrew was wearing the uniform of a vice-admiral.

Yes, it's an unfortunate title, given the circumstances.

[Calculon]

I have lost all respect fot the Beeb.
It deserves to be broken up and lose public funding.

Beckham snackwatch

[weegie01]

I have been checking in on the queues in Edinburgh (to which a staggering number of people I know went) and in London.

It is madness, but my goodness, it is magnificent.

[Tichtheid]

Paul Anderson is local to Balmoral, he's played for the Royal Family on many occasions, including this week at a private service.

[Uncle fester]

Good for you.

I was reading how the queen was embalmed. Her corpse was injected with embalming fluid and someone then had to massage her body to spread around the embalming fluid. What a job!

That's pretty standard for embalming AFAIK.

[C69]

I have lost all respect fot the Beeb.
It deserves to be broken up and lose public funding.

Beckham snackwatch

Cheers

[Wyndham Upalot]

Three of the polls cited in the article were from YouGov, IPSOS and National Centre for Social Research.

You're perfectly at liberty to produce polls which show "the vast public opinion of support for the monarchy," as you put it.

I wanted to post a topic on Monarchies in general after Monday, to protect those who are sensitive and might think it too soon, but some pro-monarchy polling in the lead up would always be welcome.

Honestly, I really couldn't give a fuck. I'm happy to give in to the status quo. chill those jets dude!

Oh I'm relaxed enough.

I just questioned your assertion that there is a huge majority of support for the monarchy, I didn't think that was the case and wondered where you got the idea from, that's all.

No big deal.

No assertion on my part dude, just observation. We'll agree to disagree.

I certainly won't attend this vigil despite my very much ingrained respect for the Queen. The way that people observe this is very much individual. So be it. Its nothing more than that.

[Biffer]

Honestly, I really couldn't give a fuck. I'm happy to give in to the status quo. chill those jets dude!

Oh I'm relaxed enough.

I just questioned your assertion that there is a huge majority of support for the monarchy, I didn't think that was the case and wondered where you got the idea from, that's all.

No big deal.

No assertion on my part dude, just observation. We'll agree to disagree.

I certainly won't attend this vigil despite my very much ingrained respect for the Queen. The way that people observe this is very much individual. So be it. Its nothing more than that.

There’s definitely an assertion there.

[Blackmac]

Because the Head of State just died - what would you expect? Is there any country that would just ignore this?

If you don't want to follow don't watch the news and don't buy a paper - it isn't that hard.

The point I'm trying to make is that it's not that easy to ignore what is going on.

For the record I don't particularly want to ignore it, as I already said, it's a significant historical event, but it's not true that you can easily ignore it completely if you have to take steps to not be informed about it - running around with your hands to your face, making pretend horse blinkers, is a bit weird.

I read the papers every day, I fully expected that there would be massive coverage of the events, to the detriment of other newsworthy stories, and so it has been.

The issue is many of us who are ambivalent to this news want to see the world move on and not have saturation coverage 24/7.
There is no way you can just ignore this event. Thisis not news its bordering on a modern day hagiography of a nice oldl ady who felt she was a Monarch ordained by God. She believed her position was a divine and dynastic right.

I very much doubt she really did. I always got the feeling she felt it was a responsibility and a bloody onerous one.

[Biffer]

I see that people are still getting through the queue in less time than some pensioners with broken hips are having to wait for an ambulance. Which is nice.

[Tichtheid]

[Hal Jordan]

Good for you.

I was reading how the queen was embalmed. Her corpse was injected with embalming fluid and someone then had to massage her body to spread around the embalming fluid. What a job!

That's pretty standard for embalming AFAIK.

Trophies in the secret basement?

[Calculon]

I have been checking in on the queues in Edinburgh (to which a staggering number of people I know went) and in London.

It is madness, but my goodness, it is magnificent.

Like the Titanic going down with all lights blazing and the band still playing.

[Gumboot]