FalseBayFC wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 4:21 pm
Correction. 1 August 2009 Morne scored a converted try and kicked 8 penalties to beat the ABs. Scored all of the Boks 31 points.
Handre Pollard is also world class.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 5:59 am
by average joe
He never played for the Sharks oom.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 6:31 am
by OomStruisbaai
average joe wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 5:59 am
He never played for the Sharks oom.
They contracted the Matie fullback but totally forgot to look at the Matie flyhalf who is in excellent form for the Cheetahs.
Their star youngster are playing for the Lions. Griquas and the Pumas have each two excellent flyhalfs.
average joe wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 5:59 am
He never played for the Sharks oom.
They contracted the Matie fullback but totally forgot to look at the Matie flyhalf who is in excellent form for the Cheetahs.
Their star youngster are playing for the Lions. Griquas and the Pumas have each two excellent flyhalfs.
So ja, South Africa don't have good flyhalfs.
The Sharks turned them from excellent to shite.
If Pollard goes down and Elton isn't available, who do you play Oom? Flyhalf is easily our weakest position ito depth. If your only option is bringing a 38 year old out of retirement then we have a problem.
If Libbok continues to develop on his current trajectory then I would include him as a prospect. But if you're talking about Chris Smit, Eddie Fouche or George Whitehead as anything more than journeyman flyhalfs...
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 6:45 am
by assfly
FalseBayFC wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:42 am
If Libbok continues to develop on his current trajectory then I would include him as a prospect. But if you're talking about Chris Smit, Eddie Fouche or George Whitehead as anything more than journeyman flyhalfs...
Eish.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 7:37 am
by FalseBayFC
I guess the Goose is next off the rank if fit. But that oke's knees are held together with grafted tendons and wishful prayers.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 7:54 am
by Chilli
FalseBayFC wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 7:37 am
I guess the Goose is next off the rank if fit. But that oke's knees are held together with grafted tendons and wishful prayers.
FalseBayFC wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 7:37 am
I guess the Goose is next off the rank if fit. But that oke's knees are held together with grafted tendons and wishful prayers.
Frans Steyn?
LOL
We seem to have a missing generation of no.10s. We have either bright early 20 something prospects or 38 year old legends. In the middle we have George Whitehead, the Pumas guy, Lionel Cronje and Chris Smit.
average joe wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 5:59 am
He never played for the Sharks oom.
They contracted the Matie fullback but totally forgot to look at the Matie flyhalf who is in excellent form for the Cheetahs.
Their star youngster are playing for the Lions. Griquas and the Pumas have each two excellent flyhalfs.
So ja, South Africa don't have good flyhalfs.
The Sharks turned them from excellent to shite.
If Pollard goes down and Elton isn't available, who do you play Oom? Flyhalf is easily our weakest position ito depth. If your only option is bringing a 38 year old out of retirement then we have a problem.
If Libbok continues to develop on his current trajectory then I would include him as a prospect. But if you're talking about Chris Smit, Eddie Fouche or George Whitehead as anything more than journeyman flyhalfs...
Morne will only a temporary solution, we still have Frans and Damian as backup.
For the Sharks I think Zander du Plessis, de Beer the Cheetahs and Lions 10 are much better options then yourneyman Cronje or imports.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 11:07 am
by Sards
If there was a decent flyhalf the Sharks would have bought him
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 4:24 pm
by FalseBayFC
There are some great u23 prospects in the country. Juan Mostert at the Bulls. Sacha Mngomezulu at WP. Boeta at the Sharks. Zander du P at Griquas. Kade Wonderkind at WP. Just no older players hitting their prime or in their prime like Pollard and an uninjured Goosen. And Elton.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 7:08 am
by assfly
Am and Mapimpi have extended their contracts
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 7:18 am
by FalseBayFC
assfly wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 7:08 am
Am and Mapimpi have extended their contracts
I know they're Eastern Cape boys but its so great to have them as rugby role models for the game in the black african communities. Check out this "almost try" from a DHS team against College. Transformation and diversity of representation in KZNs rugby is looking very posititve.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 7:26 am
by assfly
The EC is basically part of KZN, from a rugby perspective.
That prop
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:03 am
by Chilli
FalseBayFC wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:24 pm
There are some great u23 prospects in the country. Juan Mostert at the Bulls. Sacha Mngomezulu at WP. Boeta at the Sharks. Zander du P at Griquas. Kade Wonderkind at WP. Just no older players hitting their prime or in their prime like Pollard and an uninjured Goosen. And Elton.
None of them have really put their hand up. Playing behind very average players.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:45 am
by assfly
Captain legdrive signs for another 5 years.
Great news, but wouldn't be surprised if the likes of James Venter and Dylan Richardson look around for more gametime.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 11:50 am
by Chilli
assfly wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 9:45 am
Captain legdrive signs for another 5 years.
Great news, but wouldn't be surprised if the likes of James Venter and Dylan Richardson look around for more gametime.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 2:05 pm
by Sards
assfly wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 9:45 am
Captain legdrive signs for another 5 years.
Great news, but wouldn't be surprised if the likes of James Venter and Dylan Richardson look around for more gametime.
He is very popular at the Sharks where he is adored in KwaZulu-Natal. He really has found a home where he can contribute forward and become a role model to youngsters .
That is the value you are getting from Kolisi at the Sharks. Notsche experienced it first and that was important in convincing Kolisi. Look at the amount of players that have followed Kolisi to the Sharks. His value may not be as much on the field, but off the field it's going to build the depth of Sharks grassroots rugby longterm.
James Venter and Dylan Richardson need to prove that are not 1 season wonders. There is always the URC next year and a team that needs to be filled I have not been impressed with either in the CC . They need to want to work harder.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 7:47 am
by assfly
Glad to see Neil Powell is bringing some great form with him to the Sharks
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:52 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Een se brood, is n ander se dood.
English Premiership side Exeter Chiefs have boosted their pack by officially announcing the signing of Sharks lock Ruben van Heerden for next season.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:16 pm
by Sards
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:52 pm
Een se brood, is n ander se dood.
English Premiership side Exeter Chiefs have boosted their pack by officially announcing the signing of Sharks lock Ruben van Heerden for next season.
He knows Eben is coming. Makes sense. That is the beauty of the Sharks. It's a gateway to big money
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:08 pm
by FalseBayFC
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:52 pm
Een se brood, is n ander se dood.
English Premiership side Exeter Chiefs have boosted their pack by officially announcing the signing of Sharks lock Ruben van Heerden for next season.
We need to cut the salary bill somehow to pay for Eben and all the other superstars. Sad to see him go because he's been solid and loyal.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:11 pm
by assfly
He will be outstanding for Exeter. A great signing.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:44 pm
by FalseBayFC
assfly wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:11 pm
He will be outstanding for Exeter. A great signing.
Real African tall timber there next year. Ewers and Armand from Zim, Kirsten and Vermeulen - SA, Christ Tshiunza - Congo. And now Ruben van Heerden.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:45 pm
by Sards
They must look after Gerbrandt Grobler.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:47 pm
by Sards
assfly wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:11 pm
He will be outstanding for Exeter. A great signing.
I am always sad to see good Sharks players leave. But it's what we are doing now. It's all professional
assfly wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:11 pm
He will be outstanding for Exeter. A great signing.
Real African tall timber there next year. Ewers and Armand from Zim, Kirsten and Vermeulen - SA, Christ Tshiunza - Congo. And now Ruben van Heerden.
South African players are perfect for Exeter's style of play. And very cheap given the exchange rate and salary cap.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:40 am
by assfly
Sards wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:47 pm
I am always sad to see good Sharks players leave. But it's what we are doing now. It's all professional
So few players stay beyond one contact. Even if they do, it's only because they're young and need more time to improve. The chances of getting a contract with an overseas team after playing for the Sharks are very high. It's a great career move, but frustrating for fans.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:47 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Sharks coaching staff shake up
Iol
There is a coaching shake-up on the cards at the Sharks under new Director of Rugby Neil Powell and while head coach Sean Everitt is expected to continue for the next year, he will have fresh assistants.
According to reports from Pretoria and France respectively, Bulls defence coach Joey Mongalo is departing Jake White’s team to take up the position that was initially reserved for Powell until the Sharks decide to promote him to the Director’s role, while Toulouse forwards coach Yannick Bru will fulfill the same role at the Shark Tank.
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Powell is currently coaching the Bltizboks and will take up his new role at the Sharks after the Sevens World Cup in Cape Town in December.
There has been conjecture over Everitt’s future at the Sharks despite his team only just losing to the Bulls in the quarter-finals and having qualified for the Heineken Cup next year but with no announcement about Everitt coming from his employers, we can assume that no news is good news for Everitt.
In my opinion, this is great news — he is a good coach with a strong Sharks and Durban DNA and the Sharks need coaching continuity when a brand new Director takes over.
It is understood Mongalo will play a vital role under Powell and he was headhunted after enjoying a successful stint at the Bulls which began when Jake White took over in 2020.
In the case of Bru, the former French international hooker has a long-standing relationship with Sharks CEO Eduard Coetzee, who played rugby in France with Bru.
The 49-year-old Bru had an advisory role at the Sharks a few years ago and now is set for a more permanent role.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:32 am
by assfly
I didn't know we had to wait until December for Powell to start.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:53 am
by dabooldawg
Did I read correctly that sbu is bulls bound? Why? And who's going to be in the 14 jersey going forward? As for Everitt? Meh
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:10 pm
by OomStruisbaai
dabooldawg wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:53 am
Did I read correctly that sbu is bulls bound? Why? And who's going to be in the 14 jersey going forward? As for Everitt? Meh
Yes. Old news really
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:11 pm
by assfly
dabooldawg wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:53 am
Did I read correctly that sbu is bulls bound? Why? And who's going to be in the 14 jersey going forward? As for Everitt? Meh
He's already there, but still nursing an injury so not sure when he'll be back.
As of now we've got Kok, Penxe, Abrahams and Volmink who can all cover wing.
Everitt has been a disappointment. But still, we were only a couple of points away from a semi final. But considering our $uper-$tar lineup, we really should have played much better rugby all season.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:01 pm
by dabooldawg
Kok isn't that good and too slow imo. Volmink wtf? Yaw can go alright and Abrahams is an excitement machine for sure, but they're all 3 pegs below Nkosi. I just find it odd. Many possible factors at play obviously. Unless he stated something along the lines of, "Fok bunny chows. I've always been a boerewors man at heart."
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:42 pm
by FalseBayFC
dabooldawg wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:01 pm
Kok isn't that good and too slow imo. Volmink wtf? Yaw can go alright and Abrahams is an excitement machine for sure, but they're all 3 pegs below Nkosi. I just find it odd. Many possible factors at play obviously. Unless he stated something along the lines of, "Fok bunny chows. I've always been a boerewors man at heart."
I think Kok improved hugely over this last season. Just like Ruhan Nel he's taken a while to get into 15s properly. Nkosi is a Barberton boy so probably closer to home for him. Also Wandisile Simelane, another Jeppe boy, is also heading North. Maybe they're buds. Tambwe is a huge loss and as good as I think Sbu is he is a step down. Nkosi never really kicked on like I thought he would.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:44 am
by average joe
The girls are hotter and more plentiful here in the North.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:16 am
by handyman
Now that the competition is over and we have had time to reflect, what point out of 10 would Sharks supporters give a) the coaching team and b) the players?
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:43 pm
by FalseBayFC
handyman wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:16 am
Now that the competition is over and we have had time to reflect, what point out of 10 would Sharks supporters give a) the coaching team and b) the players?
I'd say we're still gelling as players and coaching setup. Like what Dobson was a year or two ago. I'd give both coaches and players a 6/10. You're only as good as your weakest link and the Sharks had weak links at 9, 10 and the centres. And the locks come to think of it. And actually the loosies were unbalanced too. I do like the development we are doing with locally raised players. The local schools are getting stronger and stronger and producing some real talent. I'm hoping the leadership corps of Thomas, Mbonambi, Etzebeth,Kolisi, RJVR, Am and Mapimpi come to the fore because I think we were lacking in that department this season.
Re: $hark$ 2020/2021
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:07 am
by assfly
handyman wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:16 am
Now that the competition is over and we have had time to reflect, what point out of 10 would Sharks supporters give a) the coaching team and b) the players?
