So, coronavirus...

[Insane_Homer]

As pfizer biontech vaccine I believe for the UK is being manufactured in Belgium , can we have a European flag on each vial

Fuck that, I want the one with Bill Gates face on it and has the microchip in it that gets activated via 5G when Sorros gives the signal!

[Sandstorm]

Bit of context

NHS workers - 1.4 million
Adult Social Care workers - 1.6 million
Over 85 - 1.7 million
80-84 - 1.8 million
75-79 - 2.3 million
70-74 - 3.3 million
65-69 3.4 million
Further 12.9 million over 50.

9.1 million over 70. That's a lot of people to get vaccines before Premiership footballers and MPs.

[Hal Jordan]

As pfizer biontech vaccine I believe for the UK is being manufactured in Belgium , can we have a European flag on each vial

Developed in Germany and Turkey as well.

But well done us for getting the damn thing through the system.

[Biffer]

And in case anyone hasn't seen the priority groups and their order

• residents in a care home for older adults, and their carers
  everyone aged 80 and over, and frontline health and social care workers
  everyone aged 75 and over
  everyone aged 70 and over, and those who are clinically extremely vulnerable
  everyone aged 65 and over
  people aged 16 to 64 with underlying health conditions which put them at higher risk of serious disease and death from Covid-19
  everyone aged 60 and over
  everyone aged 55 and over
  everyone aged 50 and over

[The Druid]

As pfizer biontech vaccine I believe for the UK is being manufactured in Belgium , can we have a European flag on each vial

No! You will have the obligatory Morgan freeman meme on each vial and lump it.

[Margin__Walker]

Superb lobby briefing thread

[Insane_Homer]

[Insane_Homer]

yesterday count was 603, down from 608 last Tuesday.

[Longshanks]

WHO on the MRHA approval are hoping for the "possibility of accessing some of the information from their assessment, which could expedite WHO’s emergency listing".
So much for cut corners as some are suggesting.....

[Bimbowomxn]

Amazing that restaurant and pubs are such small % of cases really.

[tabascoboy]

And in case anyone hasn't seen the priority groups and their order

• residents in a care home for older adults, and their carers
  everyone aged 80 and over, and frontline health and social care workers
  everyone aged 75 and over
  everyone aged 70 and over, and those who are clinically extremely vulnerable
  everyone aged 65 and over
  people aged 16 to 64 with underlying health conditions which put them at higher risk of serious disease and death from Covid-19
  everyone aged 60 and over
  everyone aged 55 and over
  everyone aged 50 and over

By the time they've completed the higher priorities I'll probably have jumped into this tier.

[Raggs]

I'll be in the tier that doesn't exist, so last.

However, a decent portion of my family will be in the top 2 tiers, so I'll not catch it off them.

[Bimbowomxn]

I'll be in the tier that doesn't exist, so last.

However, a decent portion of my family will be in the top 2 tiers, so I'll not catch it off them.

Then you’re as safe as anyone in the tiers who have had the vaccine already.

[Raggs]

I'll be in the tier that doesn't exist, so last.

However, a decent portion of my family will be in the top 2 tiers, so I'll not catch it off them.

Then you’re as safe as anyone in the tiers who have had the vaccine already.

Please don't quote me, it makes the notification thing show up, even though you should be blocked. On another note. No, I wouldn't be. Someone else being vaccinated is never going to give me as much protection as having the vaccine myself. How do you think that works? Some magical fairies fly over and let my immune system know how to fight the virus as well?

[Bimbowomxn]

I'll be in the tier that doesn't exist, so last.

However, a decent portion of my family will be in the top 2 tiers, so I'll not catch it off them.

Then you’re as safe as anyone in the tiers who have had the vaccine already.

Please don't quote me, it makes the notification thing show up, even though you should be blocked. On another note. No, I wouldn't be. Someone else being vaccinated is never going to give me as much protection as having the vaccine myself. How do you think that works? Some magical fairies fly over and let my immune system know how to fight the virus as well?

I’ll do what I like regarding quotations particularly when you post rubbish like his.

The “magical fairies” are your own immune system , which if you’re not in one of the tiers (ie a high risk group) will deal perfectly well with the virus as it has for millions of young healthy people globally.

Your immune system knows perfectly well how to deal with a corona virus.

You being a bet wetter shouldn’t change that.

[Raggs]

Then you’re as safe as anyone in the tiers who have had the vaccine already.

Please don't quote me, it makes the notification thing show up, even though you should be blocked. On another note. No, I wouldn't be. Someone else being vaccinated is never going to give me as much protection as having the vaccine myself. How do you think that works? Some magical fairies fly over and let my immune system know how to fight the virus as well?

I’ll do what I like regarding quotations particularly when you post rubbish like his.

The “magical fairies” are your own immune system , which if you’re not in one of the tiers (ie a high risk group) will deal perfectly well with the virus as it has for millions of young healthy people globally.

Your immune system knows perfectly well how to deal with a corona virus.

You being a bet wetter shouldn’t change that.

Except for those with heart damage, long term neurological damage, blood clots and all the other things that are being found from long covid, in previously healthy people... sure. Forgive me if I'd rather try and avoid all that thanks.

[Bimbowomxn]

Except for those with heart damage, long term neurological damage, blood clots and all the other things that are being found from long covid, in previously healthy people... sure. Forgive me if I'd rather try and avoid all that thanks.

Well again, resting for a while and avoiding “viral fatigue “ normally , would pretty much cover you there.

There’s plenty more thing that could do you in even if you’re young and healthy than he made up “long covid”, I’d be careful driving from now,on for example.


You’re a bed wetter,of huge proportions.

[Enzedder]

Thread getting unreadable again - thanks Bimbo.

In a totally unrelated matter to the thread context, I see that the USA is heading to a massive death toll today.

Already over 1200 and most of the worst affected states are yet to report. "Oklahoma governor declares day of prayer as virus surges" - not sure if he is hoping for divine intervention or using this to highlight his own stupidity.

[TB63]

[The “magical fairies” are your own immune system , which if you’re not in one of the tiers (ie a high risk group) will deal perfectly well with the virus as it has for millions of young healthy people globally.

Your immune system knows perfectly well how to deal with a corona virus.

Try telling that to my neighbour, whose up till now, perfectly fit and healthy thirties son, albeit with autism, is in ICU with a 50/50 chance, you twat..
]

[Bimbowomxn]

[The “magical fairies” are your own immune system , which if you’re not in one of the tiers (ie a high risk group) will deal perfectly well with the virus as it has for millions of young healthy people globally.

Your immune system knows perfectly well how to deal with a corona virus.

Try telling that to my neighbour, whose up till now, perfectly fit and healthy thirties son, albeit with autism, is in ICU with a 50/50 chance, you twat..
]

That’s sad , but immensely rare. Shall I tell you about the 2 recent cancer deaths locally ? Would that aide an argument in any way. Stats are stats ....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -risk.html

[TheNatalShark]

Yeah, people had better be careful with that Oxford jab when it comes maybe we should ask what the Slovaks think first..

Mods - maybe people are logged in and have him on ignore, but it's patently clear what Bimbot is inferring.

Why isn't he binned? Adds nothing but unhealthy doses of xenophobia.

[Slick]

Or my cousin who was a regular marathon runner but hasn’t been able to walk her kids to school for 3 months- I’ll tell her to have a little rest.

Amazing how rare this is yet many folk on here seem to have an example.

Anyway, I’ve had enough, I’ve never put anyone on ignore but you are just too much of a cunt for me to waste my time. Get fucked Bimbo

[Sandstorm]

Amazing that restaurant and pubs are such small % of cases really.

Pub goers turn off their Track & Trace app while having a couple of pints non-shock.

[Bimbowomxn]

Yeah, people had better be careful with that Oxford jab when it comes maybe we should ask what the Slovaks think first..

Mods - maybe people are logged in and have him on ignore, but it's patently clear what Bimbot is inferring.

Why isn't he binned? Adds nothing but unhealthy doses of xenophobia.

I’m inferring that Britian is a world leader in Pharma research and doesn’t need any help. That’s not Xenophobia it’s a fact.

Why on earth would stating a fact be binable ? Why don’t you address the point rather than emote like a child.

[Sandstorm]

I’m inferring that Britian is a world leader in Pharma research and doesn’t need any help. That’s not Xenophobia it’s a fact.

So just post exactly that instead of "inferring" and having people mis-understand your daily - scratch that - hourly bollocks?

The only thing you've got right in 9 months of Covid is the Govt's piss-poor attempt at dealing with the pandemic. Everything else you've been proved wrong or a prize tit. Congratulations.

[Bimbowomxn]

Or my cousin who was a regular marathon runner but hasn’t been able to walk her kids to school for 3 months- I’ll tell her to have a little rest.

Amazing how rare this is yet many folk on here seem to have an example.

Anyway, I’ve had enough, I’ve never put anyone on ignore but you are just too much of a cunt for me to waste my time. Get fucked Bimbo

Yep, it’s amazing. I know of dozens of people testing positive that had absolutely no symptoms at all, do they count?

Facts don’t actually care about your feelings.

I’m amused by once again people calling me a cunt who are ridiculously arrogant people themselves .

The reaction to actual facts on here.

[Bimbowomxn]

I’m inferring that Britian is a world leader in Pharma research and doesn’t need any help. That’s not Xenophobia it’s a fact.

So just post exactly that instead of "inferring" and having people mis-understand your daily - scratch that - hourly bollocks?

The only thing you've got right in 9 months of Covid is the Govt's piss-poor attempt at dealing with the pandemic. Everything else you've been proved wrong or a prize tit. Congratulations.

Everything else I’ve maintained has pretty much come to pass or been peer reviewed study shown to be correct.

It’s genuinely amazing that posters rightly doubt the honesty of the UK response but parrot like repeat the government narrative and stories.

[Rinkals]

Or my cousin who was a regular marathon runner but hasn’t been able to walk her kids to school for 3 months- I’ll tell her to have a little rest.

Amazing how rare this is yet many folk on here seem to have an example.

Anyway, I’ve had enough, I’ve never put anyone on ignore but you are just too much of a cunt for me to waste my time. Get fucked Bimbo

Yep, it’s amazing. I know of dozens of people testing positive that had absolutely no symptoms at all, do they count?

Facts don’t actually care about your feelings.

I’m amused by once again people calling me a cunt who are ridiculously arrogant people themselves .

The reaction to actual facts on here.

If you are saying that covid19 is no more dangerous than the 'flu, I think it's probably less about facts and more about your willingness to bend them to suit your own narrative.

When you say they have "absolutely no symptoms at all", the implication is that the virus is largely harmless (except in those with co-morbidities or advanced years) and that the measures taken against it are pointless.

It strikes me that this is a dangerous agenda to pursue because it undermines public willingness to adhere to simple rules which are largely common sense.

[Bimbowomxn]

If you are saying that covid19 is no more dangerous than the 'flu, I think it's probably less about facts and more about your willingness to bend them to suit your own narrative.

I’ve clearly said nothing of the sort, I’ve stated for some it’s dangerous. So the “narrative”is of your not my invention.

[Rinkals]

If you are saying that covid19 is no more dangerous than the 'flu, I think it's probably less about facts and more about your willingness to bend them to suit your own narrative.

I’ve clearly said nothing of the sort, I’ve stated for some it’s dangerous. So the “narrative”is of your not my invention.

FFS, Bimbo where the hell did you learn to read?

Here you go, I'll give you my complete post again and not just the bit that you edited to twist what I wrote:

If you are saying that covid19 is no more dangerous than the 'flu, I think it's probably less about facts and more about your willingness to bend them to suit your own narrative.

When you say they have "absolutely no symptoms at all", the implication is that the virus is largely harmless (except in those with co-morbidities or advanced years) and that the measures taken against it are pointless.

It strikes me that this is a dangerous agenda to pursue because it undermines public willingness to adhere to simple rules which are largely common sense.

[Bimbowomxn]

Rinkals, I’ve ignored you over here for both our sakes, I picked out and clearly disagreed with the premise of you post and chose the bit where you set that premise.

I’ve Lost count how many times we’ve had a discussion regarding this type of response and why I do it, and what I quite clearly mean. I’m not accepting your premise so the rest of your stories about the post based on that premise are irrelevant to address.

[Rinkals]

Bimbo, you've tried to misrepresent what I've posted by leaving out the bulk of my post.

I find it downright dishonest, but entirely expected from you.

Good night.

[dpedin]

Amazing that restaurant and pubs are such small % of cases really.

Probably because they have been shut?

[Enzedder]

Gee, 9 caught while in quarantine today. Is it getting that prevalent overseas that no-one is safe now?

There are nine new cases of Covid-19 in managed isolation.

Of the nine new border cases, four are active cases and five are historical cases.

Of the active cases:

• One case arrived in New Zealand on November 29 from the United Kingdom. This person tested positive at day 3 routine testing and has been transferred to the Auckland quarantine facility.

• Two cases who travelled together arrived in New Zealand on November 21 from Qatar (further travel details pending). These people tested positive at day 12 routine testing and have been transferred to the Auckland quarantine facility.

• One case arrived in New Zealand on November 30 from the United States. This person tested positive at day 3 routine testing and has been transferred to the Auckland quarantine facility.

Of the historical cases:

• Two members of the Pakistan men's cricket team we reported yesterday as under investigation tested positive at day 6 routine testing. These people are confirmed as having historical infections, and will be counted in our total as they have not been counted overseas.

• One case arrived in New Zealand on November 17 from Germany via Singapore. This person tested positive on day 12 testing. Further investigation indicates this is a historical case.

• Two cases, who travelled independently, arrived in New Zealand on November 18 from the Netherlands via Singapore. These people tested positive on day 12 testing. Further investigation indicates they are both historical cases.

Pakistan cricket team must have had some bullshit false testing before they left (or they went out for a team dinner immediately after their test at home before getting on the plane)

[mat the expat]

I've stumbled on a few Anti-Vaxxer threads on FB news articles over the last few days.....

Jeebus....

[Rinkals]

I think we can probably have confidence that the EU won't take short cuts in approving a vaccine.

Are you absolutely sure that Boris' government won't be prone to political expediency in the approval process?

I guess a quick perusal of the voices coming out in favour of this would be one way of dispelling this - from medical establishment, to eminent professors, to the SNP etc. Weird to make everything about politics.

Because people pay so much attention to experts?

https://www.edition.cnn.com/world/live- ... 61cc364d44

“We have the gold standard of a regulatory approach with the FDA. The UK did not do it as carefully and they got a couple of days ahead,” he said. “I don't think that makes much difference. We'll be there. We'll be there very soon.”

It seems that not everyone is convinced that political interference is not the driver behind the rush to approval.

[Raggs]

What else is he going to say? That they just aren't doing it as quick because they've been suffering cuts under trump? Or that they're digging they're heels in this time because trump has bulldozed through approval for meds with far less reliable data?

[Longshanks]

I guess a quick perusal of the voices coming out in favour of this would be one way of dispelling this - from medical establishment, to eminent professors, to the SNP etc. Weird to make everything about politics.

Because people pay so much attention to experts?

https://www.edition.cnn.com/world/live- ... 61cc364d44

“We have the gold standard of a regulatory approach with the FDA. The UK did not do it as carefully and they got a couple of days ahead,” he said. “I don't think that makes much difference. We'll be there. We'll be there very soon.”

It seems that not everyone is convinced that political interference is not the driver behind the rush to approval.

Let's be honest Rinkals,; you would prefer to believe there was political interference from Boris whatever the case. Nothing posted here will change your view.

[Biffer]

I guess a quick perusal of the voices coming out in favour of this would be one way of dispelling this - from medical establishment, to eminent professors, to the SNP etc. Weird to make everything about politics.

Because people pay so much attention to experts?

https://www.edition.cnn.com/world/live- ... 61cc364d44

“We have the gold standard of a regulatory approach with the FDA. The UK did not do it as carefully and they got a couple of days ahead,” he said. “I don't think that makes much difference. We'll be there. We'll be there very soon.”

It seems that not everyone is convinced that political interference is not the driver behind the rush to approval.

Or, as one of the leading pharma research nations in the world, we’re capable of doing it pretty quickly.

[frodder]

I've stumbled on a few Anti-Vaxxer threads on FB news articles over the last few days.....

Jeebus....

Just look at the Daily Mail comments section if you fancy a good laugh/cry