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Re: White privilege and other matters
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:20 pm
by Random1
Rinkals wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:30 pm
Hugo wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:28 pm
Random1 wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:40 pm The critical thing is we need a way to stop race, sex, age etc tribalism, as it’s doing no one any good.
I agree but Its a media driven phenomenon and hard to stop because of how much influence it has in shaping our sense of reality. The media business model will always value sensationalism over facts because its ultimate goal is to gain our attention and most people are too lazy or busy to invest the time to get to the bottom of issues.
To really stop this you would have to change the way that people consume news and how they access information.
If Random is absolutely convinced that racism does not exist in the US, then he might have a point in exhorting people not to use it as a divisive tool.
I think it's quite clear that, if a black teenager had taken an AR15 to the Charlotville "unite the right" march and killed 2 of the protesters and injured another, that the court would not be quite so understanding.
Blaming this on the media is missing the point.
Oh, there’s definitely plenty of racism. I agree, if the bloke was black, he’d likely have been treated very differently - potentially shot on the spot.
My point is that the intensity of the racial divide is being exacerbated by focussing on the differences between us rather than what we have in common.
CRT insists that race is the prism through which every interaction with the state (and by extension society) should be viewed.
That leads to division, not unity for me.
Re: White privilege and other matters
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:36 am
by Rinkals
Random1 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:20 pm
Rinkals wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:30 pm
Hugo wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:28 pm
I agree but Its a media driven phenomenon and hard to stop because of how much influence it has in shaping our sense of reality. The media business model will always value sensationalism over facts because its ultimate goal is to gain our attention and most people are too lazy or busy to invest the time to get to the bottom of issues.
To really stop this you would have to change the way that people consume news and how they access information.
If Random is absolutely convinced that racism does not exist in the US, then he might have a point in exhorting people not to use it as a divisive tool.
I think it's quite clear that, if a black teenager had taken an AR15 to the Charlotville "unite the right" march and killed 2 of the protesters and injured another, that the court would not be quite so understanding.
Blaming this on the media is missing the point.
Oh, there’s definitely plenty of racism. I agree, if the bloke was black, he’d likely have been treated very differently - potentially shot on the spot.
My point is that the intensity of the racial divide is being exacerbated by focussing on the differences between us rather than what we have in common.
CRT insists that race is the prism through which every interaction with the state (and by extension society) should be viewed.
That leads to division, not unity for me.
And my point is that avoiding talking about it does not solve the problem.
Re: White privilege and other matters
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:49 am
by Rinkals
Just to add that I don't think you understand what CRT is.
Re: White privilege and other matters
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:10 am
by sturginho
Cathode Ray Tube?
Re: White privilege and other matters
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:25 am
by Rinkals
sturginho wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:10 am
Cathode Ray Tube?
You're showing your age.
Re: White privilege and other matters
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:14 am
by JM2K6
Rinkals wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:49 am
Just to add that I don't think you understand what CRT is.
This is pretty much true for anyone who started banging on about it this year. Imported disingenuous right-wing Yank talking points in a never-ending culture war.
Re: White privilege and other matters
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:12 am
by Random1
Rinkals wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:49 am
Just to add that I don't think you understand what CRT is.
I’ve read a lot on crt. Including professors Bell and Krenshaw.
The definition I gave, albeit very concise, is virtually the definition of CRT; ie the state’s laws have been written in such a way that disadvantages PoC and only viewing things through a prism of race reveals that system.