Re: The Official Rygbi Cymru Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:41 pm
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From Caerphilly. 'Nuff saidpenguin wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:12 pm I watched a bit of Exeter playing this weekend, and, even though they were getting soundly beaten (must have been about their 3rd XV for the most part), Dollman looked excellent. Made a gorgeous outside break from his own 22 with a beautiful step in particular. Didn't look like a player at the end of his career. Good luck to him.
Ioan Lloyd...interesting one that. And Callum Sheedy - time for him to nail his colours to the mast!Wales squad:
Forwards: Rhys Carre (Cardiff Blues, 8 Caps), Wyn Jones (Scarlets, 25 Caps), Nicky Smith (Ospreys, 35 Caps), Ken Owens (Scarlets, 77 Caps), Ryan Elias (Scarlets, 13 Caps), Sam Parry (Ospreys)*, Samson Lee (Scarlets, 41 Caps), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues, 26 Caps), Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs, 48 Caps), Leon Brown (Dragons, 10 Caps), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys, 138 Caps), Will Rowlands (Wasps, 1 Cap), Jake Ball (Scarlets, 46 Caps), Seb Davies (Cardiff Blues, 7 Caps), Cory Hill (Cardiff Blues, 25 Caps), Aaron Wainwright (Dragons, 21 Caps), Ross Moriarty (Dragons, 45 Caps), Taulupe Faletau (Bath, 76 Caps), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues, 24 Caps), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys, 76 Caps), Josh Macleod (Scarlets)*.
Backs: Rhys Webb (Ospreys, 33 Caps), Gareth Davies (Scarlets, 53 Caps), Kieran Hardy (Scarlets)*, Dan Biggar (Northampton, 83 Caps), Rhys Patchell (Scarlets, 19 Caps), Callum Sheedy (Bristol)*, Owen Watkin (Ospreys, 22 Caps), Nick Tompkins (Dragons, 4 Caps), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets, 81 Caps), Johnny Williams (Scarlets)*, George North (Ospreys, 95 Caps), Josh Adams (Cardiff Blues, 24 Caps), Louis Rees-Zammit (Gloucester)*, Jonah Holmes (Dragons, 3 Caps), Leigh Halfpenny (Scarlets, 89 Caps), Ioan Lloyd (Bristol)*, Liam Williams (Scarlets, 63 Caps).
Sam Parry has been playing really well & am pleased to see him get a call up. Bit more bulk than Deepenguin wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:14 am Only just noticed the lack of Elliot Dee...Pivac must have seen the lineout on Friday night!
Disappointed by the absence of Ashton Hewitt too.
Nothing against Parry - as you say, he's been playing well...but Dee has been in the 22 the majority of the time in the last 2 years, and suddenly he drops out of the squad, whereas Elias stays in? I feel that Elias is a little lucky.P in VG wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:17 amSam Parry has been playing really well & am pleased to see him get a call up. Bit more bulk than Deepenguin wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:14 am Only just noticed the lack of Elliot Dee...Pivac must have seen the lineout on Friday night!
Disappointed by the absence of Ashton Hewitt too.
Probably (definitely) some Scarlets bias from Pivac.penguin wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:30 amNothing against Parry - as you say, he's been playing well...but Dee has been in the 22 the majority of the time in the last 2 years, and suddenly he drops out of the squad, whereas Elias stays in? I feel that Elias is a little lucky.P in VG wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:17 amSam Parry has been playing really well & am pleased to see him get a call up. Bit more bulk than Deepenguin wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:14 am Only just noticed the lack of Elliot Dee...Pivac must have seen the lineout on Friday night!
Disappointed by the absence of Ashton Hewitt too.
Seems to be an element of blooding new players in other areas to build towards the next world cup, and then on this occasion Pivac chooses Lee...who is more than tried and tested. Makes WGJ's exclusion more baffling. If we want to build depth WGJ makes much more sense....and that's before you look at the fact he was in the last squad, as you say.Theflier wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:46 am I didn't understand the hype of WGJ to begin with, but how do you go from being selected to start a 6N game, to out of the squad completely?
Quite possibly. He's not in the match squad for the Worcester game announced earlier
Apparently a 1 minute phone call about Sheedy playing for Wales. Pleased to hear it. I thought it might be a bit more of a discussion considering he played for England in that Barbarians game.He told me he was born in Cardiff, raised in Cardiff and he’s Welsh through and through, and I can tell by his accent. He was very, very keen to represent his country, and his country is Wales.
He'll probably get picked by the Saes just to hedge his bets. HTF has the Golden child not been picked?penguin wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:41 pmApparently a 1 minute phone call about Sheedy playing for Wales. Pleased to hear it. I thought it might be a bit more of a discussion considering he played for England in that Barbarians game.He told me he was born in Cardiff, raised in Cardiff and he’s Welsh through and through, and I can tell by his accent. He was very, very keen to represent his country, and his country is Wales.
Looks a good side. Bateman on the bench, set to make his debut...backrow with proper balance with Basham at 7. Strong backline, good options in the front row starting and on the bench, good backrow and, for me, still the best lock combination we have starting. Still the one area I want to see strengthened though. Surely we can sign a big lumping Saffer from the Cheetahs or Kings?Dragons (v Zebre Rugby): Jordan Williams, Jonah Holmes, Nick Tompkins, Jamie Roberts, Ashton Hewitt, Sam Davies, Rhodri Williams (c); Brok Harris, Elliot Dee, Leon Brown, Joe Davies, Matthew Screech, Harrison Keddie, Taine Basham, Ross Moriarty
Replacements: Richard Hibbard, Greg Bateman, Aaron Jarvis, Joe Maksymiw, Ben Fry, Tavis Knoyle, Josh Lewis, Adam Warren
Well thats a load of fucking shit!The Druid wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:11 pm Anscombe reported out for another year with knee injury, probably the end of his career at top level sadly.
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I have today off so I can have a listen at this one. Hopefully the Dragons won't disgrace themselves in the first home game.penguin wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:10 pmLooks a good side. Bateman on the bench, set to make his debut...backrow with proper balance with Basham at 7. Strong backline, good options in the front row starting and on the bench, good backrow and, for me, still the best lock combination we have starting. Still the one area I want to see strengthened though. Surely we can sign a big lumping Saffer from the Cheetahs or Kings?Dragons (v Zebre Rugby): Jordan Williams, Jonah Holmes, Nick Tompkins, Jamie Roberts, Ashton Hewitt, Sam Davies, Rhodri Williams (c); Brok Harris, Elliot Dee, Leon Brown, Joe Davies, Matthew Screech, Harrison Keddie, Taine Basham, Ross Moriarty
Replacements: Richard Hibbard, Greg Bateman, Aaron Jarvis, Joe Maksymiw, Ben Fry, Tavis Knoyle, Josh Lewis, Adam Warren
We were well beaten, but the scoreboard could/should have looked a little less lopsided. It's criminal to lose as many lineouts as we did, especially on the 5 metre line. If we can get that backline going - Tompkins, Holmes, Hewitt, Jordan Williams - then we should be able to play some entertaining rugby. Not to mention Basham is back - he's worth watching whatever else is going on.Theflier wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:29 pm zebre were gash last week. Sadly, so were the dragons. Im sure this game will be sensational
There's nothing in that backline to get going, and there's no one up front to tie in defenders, no one backing up to recyle the ball quickly, and no one who can flat foot the first defender at speed to stretch the second defender.penguin wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:12 pmWe were well beaten, but the scoreboard could/should have looked a little less lopsided. It's criminal to lose as many lineouts as we did, especially on the 5 metre line. If we can get that backline going - Tompkins, Holmes, Hewitt, Jordan Williams - then we should be able to play some entertaining rugby. Not to mention Basham is back - he's worth watching whatever else is going on.Theflier wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:29 pm zebre were gash last week. Sadly, so were the dragons. Im sure this game will be sensational
We're a work in progress, but the problem now is not personnel, it's systems and execution. Couldn't disagree with you much more about there being nothing in the backline. Once again you pick a bizarrely negative take.Theflier wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:06 pmThere's nothing in that backline to get going, and there's no one up front to tie in defenders, no one backing up to recyle the ball quickly, and no one who can flat foot the first defender at speed to stretch the second defender.penguin wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:12 pmWe were well beaten, but the scoreboard could/should have looked a little less lopsided. It's criminal to lose as many lineouts as we did, especially on the 5 metre line. If we can get that backline going - Tompkins, Holmes, Hewitt, Jordan Williams - then we should be able to play some entertaining rugby. Not to mention Basham is back - he's worth watching whatever else is going on.Theflier wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:29 pm zebre were gash last week. Sadly, so were the dragons. Im sure this game will be sensational
Tompkins may win you a game or two, but that's all there is, the rest are still well below pro level
Not drunk enough yet. Might need something a little more psychoactive to get there...