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How do creeps like this get voted for?

dpedin wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:59 am

tabascoboy wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:21 am

Apparently Gray has said she has provided an 'update' to No10. Not sure how important the wording is but it would appear she doesn't regard what she had delivered as the final report!

I hope she hands over something that looks like the various memes going around; with everything but the title, redacted; so it's obvious to all & sundry, that her report is being suppressed, & she knows it !

Asking people to stop voting for the tories, I mean honestly...no offence but how politically naive can you be.
You are litterally asking people who have self serving contempt for the poor, sick and unemployed, to the extent they are litterally knee deep In their blood, (two iof my friends died last week, from drugs of despair) after 11 years of dehumanising them, punishing them, killing them ... to suddenly start caring about them?

Where is the taxcut. in that?

SaintK wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:17 pm How do creeps like this get voted for?

Stick a blue rosette on anything and it will get votes. The whole we vote for our local MP not the party reason for keeping fptp is bollocks.

So the cover up begins?

SaintK wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:50 pm So the cover up begins?

But I’m sure I’ve heard BoJo say that it will be published in its entirety - or at least mumble yes when asked the question.

Parliament can force publication - a opposition motion to do so will likely easily get a majority

dpedin wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:59 am

tabascoboy wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:21 am

Apparently Gray has said she has provided an 'update' to No10. Not sure how important the wording is but it would appear she doesn't regard what she had delivered as the final report!

Well she'd have had to comply with the Met Police demand to leave out some aspects - if it's full of incriminating evidence there might not be much left of the actual report to publish!

tc27 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:18 pm Parliament can force publication - a opposition motion to do so will likely easily get a majority

Good. As I’ve said before the idea that it mightn’t be published in its entirety is outrageous, there aren’t any national security issues involved.

tabascoboy wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:35 pm

dpedin wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:59 am

tabascoboy wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:21 am

Apparently Gray has said she has provided an 'update' to No10. Not sure how important the wording is but it would appear she doesn't regard what she had delivered as the final report!

Well she'd have had to comply with the Met Police demand to leave out some aspects - if it's full of incriminating evidence there might not be much left of the actual report to publish!

Thing is any alleged offences wouldn’t lead to trial by jury so it’s very hard to see what the Met’s problem is with full publication.

According to Sky News' deputy political editor Sam Coates, currently the report is due to be a webpage but some work is under way to see if it can be turned into a PDF too. High-tech, you'll agree.

All of this means many journalists - including us here - will be refreshing the website constantly for the next couple of hours.

Next step will be to make the website so flaky that no-one can access it...and blame "overloading"

Said before but there's zero danger of this report not leaking

I think people are missing the point. The report given to Boris is redacted before it gets to him, Sue Gray is leaving out the juicy stuff at the Met's request. So Boris can happily say he's publishing everything he's given.

JM2K6 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:13 pm I think people are missing the point. The report given to Boris is redacted before it gets to him, Sue Gray is leaving out the juicy stuff at the Met's request. So Boris can happily say he's publishing everything he's given.

This.

However the unredacted report may still leak out....


Fingers crossed

GogLais wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:38 pm

tabascoboy wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:35 pm

dpedin wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:59 am

Apparently Gray has said she has provided an 'update' to No10. Not sure how important the wording is but it would appear she doesn't regard what she had delivered as the final report!

Well she'd have had to comply with the Met Police demand to leave out some aspects - if it's full of incriminating evidence there might not be much left of the actual report to publish!

Thing is any alleged offences wouldn’t lead to trial by jury so it’s very hard to see what the Met’s problem is with full publication.

The Parties wouldn't; but destruction of evidence; or lying to the Police would. It's the usual story; it's the coverup that causes all the problems.

JM2K6 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:13 pm I think people are missing the point. The report given to Boris is redacted before it gets to him, Sue Gray is leaving out the juicy stuff at the Met's request. So Boris can happily say he's publishing everything he's given.

Fair enough, let's be fair to Boris.

GogLais wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:31 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:13 pm I think people are missing the point. The report given to Boris is redacted before it gets to him, Sue Gray is leaving out the juicy stuff at the Met's request. So Boris can happily say he's publishing everything he's given.

Fair enough, let's be fair to Boris.

Just reminded me of this

"... it's not possible at present to provide a meaningful report..."

that's all you need to read

C69 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:16 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:13 pm I think people are missing the point. The report given to Boris is redacted before it gets to him, Sue Gray is leaving out the juicy stuff at the Met's request. So Boris can happily say he's publishing everything he's given.

This.

However the unredacted report may still leak out....


Fingers crossed

My point - badly made, I admit - is that there is no unredacted report. There's the report she has written and given to Boris, and the facts that she collected. I don't think her research is going to be leaked.

fishfoodie wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:34 pm "... it's not possible at present to provide a meaningful report..."

that's all you need to read

Yup

Probably the easiest way to look at this placeholder

She's confirmed the pissup in his flat, on the night Scummings was ousted .... that'll be difficult to explain

TBF, as far as establishment stich ups go, this doesn't look a great one.

He'll be under a huge amount of pressure this week.

fishfoodie wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:22 pm

GogLais wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:38 pm

tabascoboy wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:35 pm

Well she'd have had to comply with the Met Police demand to leave out some aspects - if it's full of incriminating evidence there might not be much left of the actual report to publish!

Thing is any alleged offences wouldn’t lead to trial by jury so it’s very hard to see what the Met’s problem is with full publication.

The Parties wouldn't; but destruction of evidence; or lying to the Police would. It's the usual story; it's the coverup that causes all the problems.

Save the Met have said they're only looking at the parties as part of a civil matter. So if the Met are being honest they cannot have a problem with the full publication of the report.

I don't mind if they are widening the scope, but what they've done or confirmed as being done makes no sense absent it being part of a coverup

Margin__Walker wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:54 pm TBF, as far as establishment stich ups go, this doesn't look a great one.

He'll be under a huge amount of pressure this week.

He’s fucking off to the Ukraine tomorrow to avoid it.

Margin__Walker wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:54 pm TBF, as far as establishment stich ups go, this doesn't look a great one.

He'll be under a huge amount of pressure this week.

there isn't a rug big enough, to sweep the mountain of shit this PM has to hide.

Biffer wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:58 pm He’s fucking off to the Ukraine tomorrow to avoid it.

Kiss of death for the Ukraine

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:56 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:22 pm

GogLais wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:38 pm

Thing is any alleged offences wouldn’t lead to trial by jury so it’s very hard to see what the Met’s problem is with full publication.

The Parties wouldn't; but destruction of evidence; or lying to the Police would. It's the usual story; it's the coverup that causes all the problems.

Save the Met have said they're only looking at the parties as part of a civil matter. So if the Met are being honest they cannot have a problem with the full publication of the report.

I don't mind if they are widening the scope, but what they've done or confirmed as being done makes no sense absent it being part of a coverup

How do you mean as a civil matter?

So, this "ambushed by a cake" affair and "failure of leadership" in the report. So PM arrives let's say unexpectedly to find a birthday gathering arranged not just with No 10 staff but his wife and that interior designer who had no actual business in the workplace.

Proper course of affairs: PM says "We're in lockdown. This is wrong and must stop now - clear it up and either get back to work or if you're not here to work then fuck off right now".

I'll accept there are no doubt civil servants and advisors who have to take the blame and at the least get a fine but I'm sure that BJ will have a list of easily expendables to fire and think another so-called apology will suffice while making excuses that "now is the wrong time for a leadership crisis" - as if there were any actual leadership....

He's trying to pretend this "update", is the end of the investigation

tabascoboy wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:29 pm Proper course of affairs: PM says "We're in lockdown. This is wrong and must stop now - clear it up and either get back to work or if you're not here to work then fuck off right now".

Bumblecunt wrote: Freudian slip you see, what I meant to say was "We're in lockdown. This is wrong and must stop now - clear it up and either get back to work or if you're not here to work then fuck off right now".

but what actually came out was...

"Oh wonderful! Is this knees up for me? <quelle surprise> Thanks you, thank you. Now could someone please get me pint of champagne to wash this lovely cake down with, who else wants a slice?"

"Brexit! Vaccine rollout!"

tabascoboy wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:37 pm "Brexit! Vaccine rollout!"

That is literally is all he’s just said.

tabascoboy wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:37 pm "Brexit! Vaccine rollout!"

Don't get me going on credit for the vaccine. Was any PM not going to put everything into developing and distributing one?

That's a substantial knife from Theresa

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