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Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:01 pm
by PCPhil
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:58 am Apparently we're only allowed one quick player in the outside backs at a time.
Prob only be used as decoration anyway. Fastest yards we made all day is the rolling maul.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:01 pm
by Dinsdale Piranha
FalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:00 pm Lovely whining about the laws from the Aus commentators today.
Still better than listening to England commentary.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:06 pm
by Chilli
Poms can NEVER complain about the Boks kicking..........

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:06 pm
by JM2K6
Made this point elsewhere but this is like watching Andy Robinson's England

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:07 pm
by JM2K6
Chilli wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:06 pm Poms can NEVER complain about the Boks kicking..........
Why not? It's going to blow your tiny mind that we can criticise both teams for cancerous rugby.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:07 pm
by PCPhil
Chilli wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:06 pm Poms can NEVER complain about the Boks kicking..........
The point of rugby is to ensure it never reaches the wings unless all other possibilities have been exhausted.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:08 pm
by Raggs
Safe scrum, get the ball, run a phase that's safe, and kick it deep.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:08 pm
by OomStruisbaai
England have this in the bag.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:10 pm
by JM2K6
Well, we won. And we briefly looked like we had an attacking structure.

Ummmmmmm

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:10 pm
by Kawazaki
The highlight will be seeing the reaction in here if Farrell gets MoM.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:11 pm
by Oxbow
It's a win I suppose.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:11 pm
by ASMO
Well its a win, Forwards (except Stuart and Underhill) won it, backs nearly lost it.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:15 pm
by Kawazaki
It's weird how the Bath players were so poor. :problem:

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:17 pm
by tc27
Something of a vintage feel to this win. Pack stepping up and pens accounting for the points.

Laws my MotM.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:20 pm
by And 1 guest
Do England have the lowest try count in t1 rugby?

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:21 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:15 pm It's weird how the Bath players were so poor. :problem:
FFS it's England not club rugby. You're the Sards version of England

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:21 pm
by tc27
And 1 guest wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:20 pm Do England have the lowest try count in t1 rugby?
I feel 20 years younger :thumbup:

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:22 pm
by Dinsdale Piranha
tc27 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:17 pm Something of a vintage feel to this win. Pack stepping up and pens accounting for the points.

Laws my MotM.
Given the forwards mostly looked competent, how many of those 3 point scores could have been 5 or 7 by going for an attacking lineout, I wonder.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:23 pm
by PCPhil
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:21 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:15 pm It's weird how the Bath players were so poor. :problem:
FFS it's England not club rugby. You're the Sards version of England
Might have been a teensy-weensy bit of sarcasm.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:26 pm
by ASMO
Van Portfleet was very good, Steward was good, the rest were sub par. I like Smith but he had a poor game today.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:30 pm
by Hal Jordan
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:10 pm The highlight will be seeing the reaction in here if Farrell gets MoM.
Super Jack Nowell, surely?

Farrell went well, played pretty much as a 12, kicked his points, no brainfarts.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:53 pm
by Chilli
PCPhil wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:07 pm
Chilli wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:06 pm Poms can NEVER complain about the Boks kicking..........
The point of rugby is to ensure it never reaches the wings unless all other possibilities have been exhausted.
Wrong login Rassie.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:58 pm
by JM2K6
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:10 pm The highlight will be seeing the reaction in here if Farrell gets MoM.
What's funny is how insanely defensive you are of any Saracens player. Farrell has not had any criticism today, why would we react badly? He scored most of the points.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:03 pm
by Kawazaki
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:58 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:10 pm The highlight will be seeing the reaction in here if Farrell gets MoM.
What's funny is how insanely defensive you are of any Saracens player. Farrell has not had any criticism today, why would we react badly? He scored most of the points.


Not defensive, just trying to even things up. Farrell gets so much criticism. Heck, he even got criticized in here for England's pitiful 6Ns performance! :lol:

Another meh performance by Smith btw.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:18 pm
by JM2K6
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:03 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:58 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:10 pm The highlight will be seeing the reaction in here if Farrell gets MoM.
What's funny is how insanely defensive you are of any Saracens player. Farrell has not had any criticism today, why would we react badly? He scored most of the points.


Not defensive, just trying to even things up. Farrell gets so much criticism. Heck, he even got criticized in here for England's pitiful 6Ns performance! :lol:

Another meh performance by Smith btw.
Surely evening things up would mean giving him praise rather than childishly whining at hypothetical slights? All very strange.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:19 pm
by Kawazaki
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:18 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:03 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:58 pm

What's funny is how insanely defensive you are of any Saracens player. Farrell has not had any criticism today, why would we react badly? He scored most of the points.


Not defensive, just trying to even things up. Farrell gets so much criticism. Heck, he even got criticized in here for England's pitiful 6Ns performance! :lol:

Another meh performance by Smith btw.
Surely evening things up would mean giving him praise rather than childishly whining at hypothetical slights? All very strange.


Nothing hypothetical. Have you been living under a rock?

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:30 pm
by Stranger
ASMO wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:26 pm Van Portfleet was very good, Steward was good, the rest were sub par. I like Smith but he had a poor game today.
I think we learnt today that JVP looks like an option and Porter doesn't

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:54 pm
by JM2K6
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:19 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:18 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:03 pm



Not defensive, just trying to even things up. Farrell gets so much criticism. Heck, he even got criticized in here for England's pitiful 6Ns performance! :lol:

Another meh performance by Smith btw.
Surely evening things up would mean giving him praise rather than childishly whining at hypothetical slights? All very strange.


Nothing hypothetical. Have you been living under a rock?
You were griping about a possible reaction you invented to a possible future event

Fairly obviously a hypothetical but hey, whatever. I'm glad you were happy with his performance, I am too although I would like to see him and the rest of the backline run the ball a bit more. Certainly the more classical shape looked a mile better for him

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:05 pm
by Kawazaki
I don't think Farrell did anything exceptional to be honest, actually thought Lawes or Genge were MoM. JvP made a difference, got the ball away quickly and his kicking was good. Steward is a brilliant fullback but he needs two fast wingers to move the ball to. His positioning is so good that his pace doesn't get too exposed but that won't always be the case. Underhill was terrible and I've got no idea why Earl isn't there. Saracens bias aside he would be perfect for this series. Also thought Jonny Hill played well.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:17 pm
by JM2K6
Yup, agree with all that. I do think the shape looked much more natural today but we're still not providing any threat from our outside backs

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 4:16 pm
by Hal Jordan
Sadly, the only outside back who's getting the ball in space is wearing ye olde diving boots.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 4:20 pm
by Margin__Walker
Backline still looks all kind of wrong, but we got the win and they all count.

JvP and Lawes the best players for me. Lawes would be my MOM, his best game for a while.

Honourable mention for Billy and Nowell.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:11 am
by Hal Jordan
Itoje and Underhill both confirmed out with concussion.

Underhill needs to think about what state his brain is going to be in long term, I fear.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:26 pm
by Lobby


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:38 pm
by Paddington Bear
:lol: :lol:
Enjoyed that

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:50 pm
by sockwithaticket
Hal Jordan wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:11 am Itoje and Underhill both confirmed out with concussion.

Underhill needs to think about what state his brain is going to be in long term, I fear.
At this point, someone else probably needs to do that for him. Probably should have been having conversations about hanging up his boots after the last one forced a two month layoff.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:14 pm
by Oxbow
With Underhill and Piers Francis both at Bath next season local bookies will be offering odds on who gets concussed first :|

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:27 pm
by SaintK
Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:38 pm :lol: :lol:
Enjoyed that
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:59 am
by ASMO
Squad is up
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Not sure why JVP drops to the bench or what Porter or Freeman did to warrant their retention.

Re: England in Australia

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:47 am
by Oxbow
Equally you could say what did Freeman do wrong to warrant losing his place? Eddie isn't going to start Arundell and I'd rather Freeman get another chance than go back to Cokanasiga.