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Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:53 am**

Oxbow wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:47 am Equally you could say what did Freeman do wrong to warrant losing his place? Eddie isn't going to start Arundell and I'd rather Freeman get another chance than go back to Cokanasiga.

Freeman's starting

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:56 am**

Stranger wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:53 am
Oxbow wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:47 am Equally you could say what did Freeman do wrong to warrant losing his place? Eddie isn't going to start Arundell and I'd rather Freeman get another chance than go back to Cokanasiga.
Freeman's starting

I was replying to ASMO's post above mine.

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:58 am**

If Porter reacted to the called structures accurately, then not getting the ball in hand is unlikely to be his responsibility. With Smith kicking so poorly there were a few opportunities for a good hard run missed I imagine.

He seemed to have a decent enough game defensively and in the ruck. And still gives that straight line option even if it wasn't used.

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:11 am**

Oxbow wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:56 am
Stranger wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:53 am
Oxbow wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:47 am Equally you could say what did Freeman do wrong to warrant losing his place? Eddie isn't going to start Arundell and I'd rather Freeman get another chance than go back to Cokanasiga.
Freeman's starting
I was replying to ASMO's post above mine.

Oops - sorry

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:48 am**

Marchant seems to have made it onto Eddie's shit list if Will Joseph's benching ahead of him.

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:12 am**

Dropping JVP is one of those Eddie decisions. No doubt he thinks he's reigning in a young buck so his head doesn't get too big or some such bollocks. He played well on debut, why not reward that?

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:13 am**

Kawazaki wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:12 am Dropping JVP is one of those Eddie decisions. No doubt he thinks he's reigning in a young buck so his head doesn't get too big or some such bollocks. He played well on debut, why not reward that?

Jones loves to play mind games, sadly it is mostly with his own team.

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:23 am**

sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:48 am Marchant seems to have made it onto Eddie's shit list if Will Joseph's benching ahead of him.

Yep, i really don't understand why Marchant has been totally dropped. Thought arundel deserved to get a start and jvp did well enough to start again.

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:40 am**

petej wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:23 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:48 am Marchant seems to have made it onto Eddie's shit list if Will Joseph's benching ahead of him.
Yep, i really don't understand why Marchant has been totally dropped. Thought arundel deserved to get a start and jvp did well enough to start again.

Come on - after all this time do you really still expect to understand the random selections that Jones comes up with.

Some coaches accidentally, often due to loads of injuries, chance upon a side that works - Unfortunately Jones wouldn't recognise when he's got lucky because he thinks he's a genius that can see things that no one else can.

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:47 am**

Marchant may well have an injury of some sort as you'd expect him to bench ahead of Joseph given the gulf in experience.

What I would say though is that Joseph is a serious athlete and probably quicker than Marchant if Jones is looking to bring some pace off the bench at the end of a game when it's breaking up.

Doesn't really matter either way though as the subs are only getting 5-10 minutes at the moment.

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:04 pm**

Raggs wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:58 am If Porter reacted to the called structures accurately, then not getting the ball in hand is unlikely to be his responsibility. With Smith kicking so poorly there were a few opportunities for a good hard run missed I imagine.

He seemed to have a decent enough game defensively and in the ruck. And still gives that straight line option even if it wasn't used.

?!

Porter went 5/4 in defence, carried the ball all of three times, didn't pass once, and dropped it twice. He was miles off the pace and looked completely out of his depth.

Would be nice if he was alive to the concept of chasing kicks through the middle, too. Marchant feeds off those.

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:57 pm**

Chessum and Ludlam are fine, they're the next cans off the rank, but it will be interesting to see how they go from the start as opposed to off the bench.

Care I don't get. JVP just came off a fine match and should really be in possession. Care is great off the bench but I'm not sure he's as good starting. Maybe our Supreme Leader is looking to get the club 9/10 axis working.

Marchant not being picked even on the bench is just weird, but I suppose Super Jack Nowell is the 13 replacement.

Freeman probably fits the kick chase game better than Arundell and let's not pretend we won't spend most of the match looking up.

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:55 pm**

Hal Jordan wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:57 pm Chessum and Ludlam are fine, they're the next cans off the rank, but it will be interesting to see how they go from the start as opposed to off the bench.

Care I don't get. JVP just came off a fine match and should really be in possession. Care is great off the bench but I'm not sure he's as good starting. Maybe our Supreme Leader is looking to get the club 9/10 axis working.

Marchant not being picked even on the bench is just weird, but I suppose Super Jack Nowell is the 13 replacement.

Freeman probably fits the kick chase game better than Arundell and let's not pretend we won't spend most of the match looking up.

Smith had more wobbles last test than the first one, Care may be back in to take some pressure off him, partially due to the quins connection, partially due to simply being a senior player. JVP was brilliant, and I don't think that was missed, but Smith is the one we're trying to polish at the moment.

Thought Freeman was just fine.

Still suspect Marchant simply isn't 100% and so he's not being picked. OK to train, but not worth risking in a full blown test etc unless everyone else falls over.

Posted: **Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:12 pm**

Then they should just come out and say he's injured instead of 17D chess bullshit.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:47 am**

Fuck me dead. "Ludlam reminds me of George Smith". Thanks Sky, I always love your measured analysis.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:48 am**

Here we go.

Ludlum interview, i hate this "we are still learning" schtick, it grinds my gears, if you are still learning at this stage, you are in the wrong job. There is finessing which i can accept, but learning? Fuck off

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:53 am**

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:47 am Fuck me dead. "Ludlam reminds me of George Smith". Thanks Sky, I always love your measured analysis.

I deliberately don't start watching until we're about to get into the game, but that's nuts. Ludlam is a good player, but he's all energy, everywhere. Smith was bordering on lazy, in as much he was just always in the right place at the right time. He didn't have to work hard because he could just read the game so well.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:00 am**

Anyone got a decent stream? Only got the vk.com one working, would rather be able to hear the ref (and put up with the commentary).

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:02 am**

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:00 am Anyone got a decent stream? Only got the vk.com one working, would rather be able to hear the ref (and put up with the commentary).

If you can VPN into Oz Channel 9 has it free to air... so my friend informs me.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:04 am**

Flockwitt wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:02 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:00 am Anyone got a decent stream? Only got the vk.com one working, would rather be able to hear the ref (and put up with the commentary).
If you can VPN into Oz Channel 9 has it free to air... so my friend informs me.

Lovely, now to hope it's actually better quality than the "other" streams.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:05 am**

Nice touch to put Binoculars under each seat instead of flags.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:07 am**

I liked that welcome to country.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:08 am**

Yeah, much better than the last one.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:08 am**

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:53 am
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:47 am Fuck me dead. "Ludlam reminds me of George Smith". Thanks Sky, I always love your measured analysis.
I deliberately don't start watching until we're about to get into the game, but that's nuts. Ludlam is a good player, but he's all energy, everywhere. Smith was bordering on lazy, in as much he was just always in the right place at the right time. He didn't have to work hard because he could just read the game so well.

It'll annoy you even more to know the comparison was being made primarily on work rate, too

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:09 am**

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:07 am I liked that welcome to country.

Way better and more repectful than last week which was an abomination.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:10 am**

ASMO wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:09 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:07 am I liked that welcome to country.
Way better and more repectful than last week which was an abomination.

Last week was awful, the first 1 was OK, but this one was simple, respectful, didn't try too much crowd interaction but had a nice little bit.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:11 am**

Christ Care, thought I was watching the slo mo then.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:11 am**

TheAussies need to do something about their anthem. The Kiwis have managed to jazz theirs up nicely so it’s now a bit inspiring but AAF is no good

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:11 am**

pen to Aus there, early tackle from Smith.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:12 am**

Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:11 am pen to Aus there, early tackle from Smith.

THIS. How do the officials all miss that?

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:12 am**

Frost is an absolute unit. Haven't seen much of his rugby before.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:13 am**

That jumbo screen is distracting as fuck.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:14 am**

Ironic that pen is in the same spot as the one Smith should have been pinged for.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:15 am**

Where are the fucking blockers at the ruck? Lazy

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:15 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:12 am
Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:11 am pen to Aus there, early tackle from Smith.
THIS. How do the officials all miss that?

Think it was that close they let it go. Amusingly, the one against Billy seems rather harsh for me, so I guess it evens up.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:17 am**

Stuart needs to be careful, he's binding on the arm again.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:17 am**

So far, very poor by England

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:18 am**

Spacker fest so far

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:18 am**

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:17 am Stuart needs to be careful, he's binding on the arm again.

He is shit, no idea how he is playong international level

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:18 am**

ASMO wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:17 am So far, very poor by England

We’re making a statement.

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