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Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:19 am
by Wignu
Jb1981 wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:05 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:34 am
Jb1981 wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:30 am Daryl Mitchell has a massive job to do here. He needs to shepherd Jamieson to an average boosting not out so that we can further talk up his status as the most exciting up and coming all-rounder.
I was thinking the same thing :thumbup: We cannot afford a cheap dismissal from Kyle Jamieson.
I’m actually feeling nervous :lol:
Well he did his bit and got a century to boot :grin:

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:20 am
by Jimmy Smallsteps
Great batting, New Zealand. :clap:

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:21 am
by mrbrownstone
Fantastic effort from Mitchell. :thumbup:

And more importantly, Kyle Jamieson now averages 56.4 with the bat and 14.44 with the ball. GOAT allrounder?

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:25 am
by Jb1981
mrbrownstone wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:21 am Fantastic effort from Mitchell. :thumbup:

And more importantly, Kyle Jamieson now averages 56.4 with the bat and 14.44 with the ball. GOAT allrounder?
His bowling average may be even better. It shows as 14.44 still on cricinfo but that’s only showing 25 wickets so doesn’t reflect his latest efforts.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:26 am
by Carter's Choice
11 overs. Nasty.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:31 am
by mrbrownstone
Another nice stat to come from today. Highest average as captain:

1. Bradman (101.5)
2. Smith (70.36)
3. Williamson (62.8)

Ahead of some truly elite names: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... pe=batting

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:55 am
by Trapper
And the big fella snares a wicket!

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:57 am
by Carter's Choice
Ffs Jamieson is a good player!

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:58 am
by Kiwias
mrbrownstone wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:31 am Another nice stat to come from today. Highest average as captain:

1. Bradman (101.5)
2. Smith (70.36)
3. Williamson (62.8)

Ahead of some truly elite names: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... pe=batting
The batsmen below him on the list include some of the absolute legends of the game.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:59 am
by Jb1981
Carter's Choice wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:57 am Ffs Jamieson is a good player!
Up there with Cameron Green?

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 6:00 am
by Trapper
Carter's Choice wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:57 am Ffs Jamieson is a good player!
Jesus, he’s nearly had a wicket with every ball in this over! And would have he’d two if the umpires call was out.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 6:04 am
by Carter's Choice
Jb1981 wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:59 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:57 am Ffs Jamieson is a good player!
Up there with Cameron Green?
Cameron Green is extremely highly rated by the Australian cricket commentators. But he is yet to show his full potential at test level. A batteing average of 22 and bowling average of zero suggests he's a work in progress. In contrast, KJ is now delivering match-turning performances every time he plays.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 6:12 am
by Ted.
Well that's a good day at the park for the BCs.

There is rain forecast from mid-afternoon on Thursday, so we need to get a wriggle on.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:48 am
by Carter's Choice
Yes, a very good day for NZ today. The 369 run partnership between Williamson and Nicholls was absolutely superb, with both batsmen playing well controlled innings and then upping the scoring tempo as they passed their tons. Sure there was a bit of luck with dropped catches, but that is part and parcel of test cricket. The secondary partnership of 133 runs between Williamson and Mitchell was also important, and extremely entertaining, and it was great to the latter bring up his maiden test century. Let's hope Nicholls injury isn't too serious, he looked to be in significant pain late in his dig.

Pakistan toiled hard in the field, but it was a day they would rather forget. 659/6d is a hell of a score to concede in any innings, and they will sorely rue their 8 dropped catches and 2 wickets from no balls. Still no-one could argue that they gave up, and for the that the Pakistan coaching team must be pleased. The gulf in class is arguably as big as it's ever been between these two teams.

Two full days remain for NZ to take 9 second innings wickets. Whilst there is still the possibility that Pakistan could make NZ bat again, you'd have to think this is highly unlikely. Rain is possible in CHCH over the next two days, and this could make life more challenging for the Black Caps, although the weather should be mostly fine. Kyle Jamieson already has one wicket, and was unlucky not to claim a second scalp late in the day, and shapes as being the key bowler for NZ.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:16 pm
by -RB-
Abbas gone early to Southee, burns up a review in the process. Can't imagine his team will be happy with the night watchman using up a review.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:17 pm
by Jb1981
Nice start as Boult strikes.

21-2.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:46 pm
by Jb1981
The world’s oldest first-class cricketer, Alan Burgess, has died aged 100 in Rangiora.

Not a bad way to spend his last day though with this on cricinfo from his daughter:
Pip said her father had been in good form up to the end, and had spent much of yesterday watching the BLACKCAPS play Pakistan in the second Test, on TV, and had seen Kane Williamson bring up his double century.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:12 pm
by Gumboot
Will Young takes a terrific catch.

46/3

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:14 pm
by Jb1981
Kyle Jamieson! Do we need to recycle “the Postman” as a nickname? He just keeps delivering.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:16 pm
by Jimmy Smallsteps
The Kyledriver claims another one. He is in some form at the moment.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:55 am
by Kiwias
KJ removes Sohail straight after lunch. 79-4 now and looking increasingly unlikely that the BCs will have to bat again.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:56 am
by mrbrownstone
And again. Guess who? Jamieson is so good to watch. Whisper it given how outstanding Boult and Southee have been for a long time, but it would be exciting to see what he could do with a new ball.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:59 am
by Gumboot
mrbrownstone wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:56 am And again. Guess who? Jamieson is so good to watch. Whisper it given how outstanding Boult and Southee have been for a long time, but it would be exciting to see what he could do with a new ball.
Oooh yeah...

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:00 am
by Jimmy Smallsteps
And another. This guy's got the goods. :clap:

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:13 am
by Trapper
Blokes just an out and out wicket taker. 4/18

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:14 am
by Jimmy Smallsteps
...and another. 4-18 now, 9 for the match. Superb.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:14 am
by Kiwias
He can't stop taking wickets, one more for his five-for.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:15 am
by mrbrownstone
Hope someone kept the keys to the lab where we bred this bloke. 6"8. Good pace & bounce. Swings it both ways. Solid defence, hits the ball a long way, and runs well between the wickets. What a specimen.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:17 am
by Jb1981
Casually checks the score, sees Jamieson has four. Gives a satisfied nod and moves on.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:18 am
by mrbrownstone
Jamieson has 9/87 for the match, all of them top 7 batsmen, plus 30* (22). Still 5 wickets to be taken. Williamson scored 238. MoTM will be tricky.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:35 am
by mrbrownstone
And there's 10 with an absolute brute of an inswinger. How do you play that?

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:35 am
by Trapper
Fucking hell, just how good is he?

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 am
by Kiwias
10 for the match tips the scale for KJ, I reckon

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 am
by Kiwias
mrbrownstone wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:35 am And there's 10 with an absolute brute of an inswinger. How do you play that?
Rizwan just answered your question -- you can't play it.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:46 am
by Trapper
Kiwias wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 am 10 for the match tips the scale for KJ, I reckon
Nah, KW set up this test win with a double ton that has put him in elite company. But on any other day...

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 am
by Kiwias
Trapper wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:46 am
Kiwias wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 am 10 for the match tips the scale for KJ, I reckon
Nah, KW set up this test win with a double ton that has put him in elite company. But on any other day...
No issue with KW either

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:54 am
by Trapper
Kiwias wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:51 am
Trapper wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:46 am
Kiwias wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:42 am 10 for the match tips the scale for KJ, I reckon
Nah, KW set up this test win with a double ton that has put him in elite company. But on any other day...
No issue with KW either
I’ve got no issue if KJ gets it either.

Jeez, I’d love to see Southee, Boult, Jamieson and Wagner having a go at the Aussies right now.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:05 am
by JPNZ
Trapper wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:54 am
I’ve got no issue if KJ gets it either.

Jeez, I’d love to see Southee, Boult, Jamieson and Wagner having a go at the Aussies right now.
KJ gets it easily with a 10 for. Break it down KW scored 36% of NZ's total runs and KJ has currently taken 63% of Paki wickets. Simple

I would also love to see the Aus team stay for a test series after the T20's but it ain't happening sadly.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:06 am
by Gumboot
Trapper wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:35 am Fucking hell, just how good is he?
It's ridiculous, he's just showing off now.

Re: Cricket: Official Blackcaps thread (#1 rating pending)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:10 am
by mrbrownstone
Kyle Jamieson now has just one less 5-for than Pat Cummins.

He's also on track to be just the 2nd fast bowler this century to reach 50 wickets in fewer than 10 tests - Philander did it in 7 - if he can get 15 more in his next 3 tests + the rest of this innings. Most wickets after 6 tests is 50 set back in 1888, then Philander with 45, and A Valentine with 43 set back in 1950. Jamieson has 35 after 6.

I'm sure he'll have his challenges when he starts playing tests overseas, but it goes to show just how rare this sort of start to a test career is.