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Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:12 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:22 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:55 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:43 pm The disease of... recognising he's gone up a level on the wing and that he has some pretty major weaknesses as a fullback?

They're not major weaknesses. He's a genuine attacking threat, has lots of very positive attributes.

The English disease* hates players like this and that includes a player like Marcus Smith. Smith will miss a few tackles and people like you will say he has a major weakness and Farrell will be back at 10.

* Jones has caught a fatal dose.
Marcus Smith is brilliant at the things a fly half has to be good at. Max Malins is currently pretty shaky at some of the things a fullback has to be good at.

It can't have escaped your notice that Malins' best rugby has come on the wing, and that he's made a habit of costly mistakes in the air and poor defending at 15? You were banging the drum for his inclusion after matches where he performed brilliantly on the wing. I agree that he's a fantastic attacking talent! The thing is, it's shown up most on the wing and that's also helped him with the problems in his game.

Play him on the wing like Bristol and Saracens have done, let him develop the weaker parts of his game.

The English disease is that a fullback without a quarter of the attacking instincts of Malins (or the pace to achieve them even if he did) is lauded as the new best thing at fullback because he has caught some high kicks. The attributes that Steward doesn't possess are related to attack so are overlooked.

Marcus Smith will miss tackles and it will be cited as a reason to drop hm - that will happen, I guarantee it.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:20 pm**

Anyway, the wheels really have come off in Exeter this season.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:09 am**

Was it just having not seen him for some time or did Manu seem to have an extra bit of gas yesterday?

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:16 am**

geordie_6 wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:09 am Was it just having not seen him for some time or did Manu seem to have an extra bit of gas yesterday?

He's lost some weight. About 5kgs I think.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:31 am**

Today's main event, Wasps vs. Quins.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:18 pm**

Good test of Quins squad depth at the moment. I know wasps are missing a ton of people and we have more first choice players than I was fearing after last weekend.

First appearance for Nick David, with Lynagh injured. Good youngsters on the bench. Great to have Symons back with Lewies not fully fit yet. Surprised Louw isn't starting. But ultimately it's all about whether Edwards can actually run a game from fly half.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:26 pm**

McHenry aside, our starting XV looks reasonable. The bench is certainly not ideal. Only Cardall and Young really add anything there. Hougaard has looked well off the pace so far.

Crossdale has earnt the right to start ahead of Watson imo. Surprised to see Fifita up and about, his leg injury last week looked bad. Porter continuing to start is a validation of his form, Robson's misfortune is his opportunity.

The half back battle should be fascinating. Care's probably going to need to babysit Edwards a bit, but Umaga often isn't at his best without Robson there holding his hand. If he's not performing we've got a near novice to pull off the bench.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:40 pm**

Do Wasps and Quins both claim the same year of inauguration?

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:55 pm**

So Farrell has apparently been confirmed to be a false positive, and will be back for next week.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:01 pm**

Raggs wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:55 pm So Farrell has apparently been confirmed to be a false positive, and will be back for next week.

That's great news

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:44 pm**

Oxbow wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:01 pm
Raggs wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:55 pm So Farrell has apparently been confirmed to be a false positive, and will be back for next week.
That's great news

Despite failing two consecutive PCRs…

I really don’t think it’s a good look to give Farrell such special treatment, let alone my cynicism of the check. Would any other player have had the same support to get around Covid regs? It shows Jones to be completely dependent on Farrell. Which is a shame, as I’d like to see how we’d get on against Oz without him in the side. I suspect Jones is worried that we’d do ok and leave him with a massive dilemma.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:52 pm**

Did he fail two pcr tests?

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:58 pm**

We know he failed two tests in a row.

Word is he's being lined up for the Ofcom job after this...

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:47 pm**

Crossdale sparked out trying to take down Esterhuizen. Been down for a while and the stretcher's out.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:54 pm**

Nice score by wasps. Edwards is gonna have to go some to convince me he's premiership quality, though. You can't miss that tackle.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:55 pm**

Biggest thing with that is Oghre showing enough toe to keep up in support and be there for the offload.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 4:55 pm**

Someone needs to tell Oghre he's not a back, letting the front row union down with that turn of pace and step...

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:03 pm**

Baffling penalty

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:05 pm**

Barnes telling Quins to stop counter rucking - fuck off.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:07 pm**

Oof, Porter maybe should've given that a nudge rather than pin his ears back.

Some nice interplay, though.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:08 pm**

It's wasps defence that's winning this, though. Our carriers are getting gang tackled and we look clueless.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:09 pm**

Porter will have enjoyed that handoff. Shame his box kicking hasn't been great, always a bit too long.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:10 pm**

Your lineout's also given us some decent posession.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:11 pm**

Jesus fucking Christ Barnes maybe if you didn't wait twenty minutes between "crouch" "touch" and "bind" these scrums might work

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:11 pm**

Raggs wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:09 pm Porter will have enjoyed that handoff. Shame his box kicking hasn't been great, always a bit too long.

Doesn't seem to be much of a chase either. Possibly because of the length, but it looks deliberate.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:12 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:10 pm Your lineout's also given us some decent posession.

Yeah, Walker was bad in the opening couple of matches and then turned it round completely, but he's reverted back to those performances. Shocking.

Can't see how wasps lose this.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:13 pm**

Watching this from a Quins perspective is agonising, it's felt like an hour of us fucking up and we've had 28 minutes

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:13 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:12 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:10 pm Your lineout's also given us some decent posession.
Yeah, Walker was bad in the opening couple of matches and then turned it round completely, but he's reverted back to those performances. Shocking.

Can't see how wasps lose this.

We're kicking straight to Green a lot, I'll be amazed if that doesn't come back to bite us at some point.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:15 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:13 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:12 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:10 pm Your lineout's also given us some decent posession.
Yeah, Walker was bad in the opening couple of matches and then turned it round completely, but he's reverted back to those performances. Shocking.

Can't see how wasps lose this.
We're kicking straight to Green a lot, I'll be amazed if that doesn't come back to bite us at some point.

You're also smashing him, though. Your defence is working really well.

Ah, the scrum is back.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:16 pm**

How many chances pissed away now?

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:18 pm**

Shields was never onside for the intercept. Always a step in front of the rest of the defensive line. You win some you lose some.

Esterhuizen is having to be our playmaker today and it's going very badly.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:20 pm**

Magnificent offloading and passing by half the wasps team there. Butchered by Oghre.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:22 pm**

He had to give that. Butchered just barely covers it.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:23 pm**

If Chisholm wasn't such a fucking moron he'd be so good. That was so, so stupid.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:26 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:18 pm
Esterhuizen is having to be our playmaker today and it's going very badly.

Yeah

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:28 pm**

I'd say there's a forward pass in there but the refs have set their stall out early with some of Edwards "flat" passes

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:28 pm**

Last pass definitely a bit suspect and we seemed to try out hardest to make it easier for the defence there.

Willis did very well at getting the ball out of the scrum.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:29 pm**

Willis is having a stormer yeah.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:32 pm**

An hour to play forty minutes of rugby. Sheesh.

The commentators were wanking on about how it's not as one sided as the score suggests. I don't know what game they're watching.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:34 pm**

Whoever blatantly left their hand on the ball in a lost ruck to give Quins this oppportunity is a moron.

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:32 pm An hour to play forty minutes of rugby. Sheesh.

The commentators were wanking on about how it's not as one sided as the score suggests. I don't know what game they're watching.

Is that including the injury break?

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