Another mass shooting in the US

[Tilly Orifice]

Agree with everyone. We pretend children are a good laugh and they say funny stuff but facts are they suck us all dry and the teachers are one of the last bulwarks against the little shits. Arm them to the teeth and we can all go out clubbing again

Amen brother.

Clubbing! Too loud and I need to be in bed the same day as I got up. Just a nice quiet boozer with seats available and a good beer please!

Isn't clubbing quieter than shooting, though?

[Calculon]

10 shot dead at lunar new year event

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-64365251

I hope it's not a racially motivated attack

[Tichtheid]

As of the 23rd of January there have been 38 mass shootings in the US this year
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/repo ... s-shooting

[Niegs]

[Kawazaki]

Policeman sees that and he'd shoot and kill the guy holding the gun at the end.

[Niegs]

Policeman sees that and he'd shoot and kill the guy holding the gun at the end.

One of the comments attacked, I think, a conservative reporter saying this must be shown when someone says "The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." Well clearly cast iron balls, a bit of wrestling, and some stern scolding can too!

(Not that people should have to face gun violence and be put into a situation that causes some to be so brave/selfless, and not that those cunts will listen, but ... )

[Uncle fester]

Would he have been done for first degree murder if he shot the guy with his own gun?

[fishfoodie]

It certainly wouldn't rise to the level of 1st Degree murder.

For one he didn't bring the gun to the party. If he'd taken the gun off him, & then cold-bloodedly shot him, he could get charged with a lesser charge, but only if the DA wanted to waste their time, & not get re-elected, because there isn't a snowballs chance in hell of getting a conviction.

[mat the expat]

Policeman sees that and he'd shoot and kill the guy holding the gun at the end.

Damn right - you'd be terrified

[tabascoboy]

Info looks vague atm

Multiple people have been injured in a shooting in Nashville, Tennessee, according to local authorities.

Updated a little, and not good - a school again...

Three children have been killed in a shooting in Nashville, Tennessee, according to local authorities.

On Twitter, the city's fire department said there were "multiple patients" from an incident at a local school.

The tweet added that the area remains "an active scene".

Nashville police report they engaged the shooter and the person is now dead.

[robmatic]

Info looks vague atm

Multiple people have been injured in a shooting in Nashville, Tennessee, according to local authorities.

Updated a little, and not good - a school again...

Three children have been killed in a shooting in Nashville, Tennessee, according to local authorities.

On Twitter, the city's fire department said there were "multiple patients" from an incident at a local school.

The tweet added that the area remains "an active scene".

Nashville police report they engaged the shooter and the person is now dead.

Primary school :(

[Marylandolorian]

Three children and three adults were killed in a shooting at a private religious school in Nashville, according to a spokesperson for the Nashville Metro Police Department.

The shooter, who police said was a 28-year-old Nashville woman*, was shot dead after being engaged by two officers, spokesperson Don Aaron said in a press briefing Monday.

* this doesn’t happen often

There have been 128 mass shootings in the U.S. this year.

[Ymx]

No, not often a woman who does these things. Assuming it’s a XX woman not an XY one.

[Guy Smiley]

This is the family Christmas pic the Congressman representing the district where the latest school shooting occurred released....

[fishfoodie]

This is the family Christmas pic the Congressman representing the district where the latest school shooting occurred released....

“Welcome to Tennessee, patron state of shootin' stuff.”

― Bob Lee Swagger

[Ymx]

Oh dear. After my bad gag, some suggestions circulating that it does in fact appear to be a trans. But not sure which version.

[C69]

No, not often a woman who does these things. Assuming it’s a XX woman not an XY one.

Sorry wtaf are you trolling about?
Seriously

[Marylandolorian]

Oh dear. After my bad gag, some suggestions circulating that it does in fact appear to be a trans. But not sure which version.

It is ( in other circonstances I would have put a clapping emoji)

[robmatic]

Oh dear. After my bad gag, some suggestions circulating that it does in fact appear to be a trans. But not sure which version.

Given the number of school shootings in the US, this was statistically likely to happen at some point. The worst people on the internet will now spend the next week arguing about the transness rather than the schools being shot up being terrible part.

[Jim Lahey]

All countries have their own unique issues but America from a political perspective just seems totally fucked to continuiosly allow these things to happen while doing little/nothing to stop it.

It really needs to get to grips with itself sooner rather than later or whatever credibility it once had on the international stage will be gone.

If I lived there I'd probably want to own a gun given the state of things FFS.

[Sinkers]

There’s some stat that says that 70% of mass shooters have a record for domestic violence or similar.
Yet they can’t get meaningful legislation through on that.

One trans shooter and watch the nut cases calling for a trans gun ownership ban or worse

[TB63]

As sure as night follows day, the despicable piece of shit posts her usual "it's not the guns fault"..

[Jim Lahey]

As sure as night follows day, the despicable piece of shit posts her usual "it's not the guns fault"..

Tbf its not the guns fault that the shooter becomes batshit crazy enough to do it.

It is the gun's fault for the scale of the tragedies though. Some dickhead wielding a knife or some other object might take out 1 or 2 people before being taken down you'd like to think. Plus you'd need to be a physically strong person to manhandle people, whereas someone with a gun (and training using it) probably can be a streaky weasel.

The fact that an elected official is coming out with that kind of wank is worrying though.

[TB63]

Faux News...It's the doors fault, there shouldn't be any doors left open...

Oh really?....

[sockwithaticket]

As sure as night follows day, the despicable piece of shit posts her usual "it's not the guns fault"..

Tbf its not the guns fault that the shooter becomes batshit crazy enough to do it.

It is the gun's fault for the scale of the tragedies though. Some dickhead wielding a knife or some other object might take out 1 or 2 people before being taken down you'd like to think. Plus you'd need to be a physically strong person to manhandle people, whereas someone with a gun (and training using it) probably can be a streaky weasel.

The fact that an elected official is coming out with that kind of wank is worrying though.

I always think of it as I much prefer my chances of outrunning a dude with a knife than a bullet.

[inactionman]

As sure as night follows day, the despicable piece of shit posts her usual "it's not the guns fault"..

Tbf its not the guns fault that the shooter becomes batshit crazy enough to do it.

It is the gun's fault for the scale of the tragedies though. Some dickhead wielding a knife or some other object might take out 1 or 2 people before being taken down you'd like to think. Plus you'd need to be a physically strong person to manhandle people, whereas someone with a gun (and training using it) probably can be a streaky weasel.

The fact that an elected official is coming out with that kind of wank is worrying though.

I always think of it as I much prefer my chances of outrunning a dude with a knife than a bullet.

I've yet to meet anyone who can throw a knife 500 yards at twice the speed of sound at 600 or so knives a minute.

Thankfully.

[Jim Lahey]

Let's apply The 5 Whys to the situation.

Why does America have so many mass shootings?
-They have a lot of mentally unstable people with access to guns

Why?
-They are over medicated and the 2nd Amendment gives them the right to bare arms

Why?
-They get bombarded by adverts from Pharma companies on TV, and in a document written 233 years ago the FFs wanted their citizens to be able to rise up against tyranny

Why?
-Pharma companies make a lot of money from this and Americans generally have an inherent wish to improve their station in life, and the FFs distrusted strong forms of government due to the English rule over the colonies

Why?
-Money.

Don't think we need the 5th Why . . .

[sockwithaticket]

Let's apply The 5 Whys to the situation.

Why does America have so many mass shootings?
-They have a lot of mentally unstable people with access to guns

Why?
-They are over medicated and the 2nd Amendment gives them the right to bare arms

Why?
-They get bombarded by adverts from Pharma companies on TV, and in a document written 233 years ago the FFs wanted their citizens to be able to rise up against tyranny

Why?
-Pharma companies make a lot of money from this and Americans generally have an inherent wish to improve their station in life, and the FFs distrusted strong forms of government due to the English rule over the colonies

Why?
-Money.

Don't think we need the 5th Why . . .

https://observer.com/2022/05/texas-scho ... arm-sales/

Given that these events are often followed by significant spikes in gun sales, it's no wonder the NRA and various arms industry lobbyists work so hard to keep firearms as freely accessible as possible.

[inactionman]

As sure as night follows day, the despicable piece of shit posts her usual "it's not the guns fault"..

Tbf its not the guns fault that the shooter becomes batshit crazy enough to do it.

It is the gun's fault for the scale of the tragedies though. Some dickhead wielding a knife or some other object might take out 1 or 2 people before being taken down you'd like to think. Plus you'd need to be a physically strong person to manhandle people, whereas someone with a gun (and training using it) probably can be a streaky weasel.

The fact that an elected official is coming out with that kind of wank is worrying though.

She's either a fucking nut or on the payroll of some very dodgy characters. Its access to the guns is the issue. In Ireland the Gardai apply the law strictly and it specifically prohibits access to people the GP or local Superintendent deems not fit. The wording is broad in the legislation to allow the super not issue or revoke a certificate with ease:

(b) any person of intemperate habits, and

(c) any person of unsound mind,

Unsurprisingly we have absolutely fuck all gun crime

She's a fucking nut. But she is still playing to an audience.

[sockwithaticket]

If by some miracle they managed to get a nationwide ban on the sale of firearms from this point forth it would help to stop the instances of young men 18 - 25 going out and buying their own brand new gun and the ammo to go with, but they still have something like 400 million guns out there with the population and there have been plenty of cases where a young person takes a poorly stored gun of their parents to go on their murder spree.

Monitoring services are also for shit. The Colorado shooting a few days ago (!!) was perpetrated by a teenager who was already on probation for owning a 'ghost gun' two years prior. Not the first time someone already on the radar for problematic behaviour has gone on to do worse. I appreciate that odds are someone will fall through the cracks every now and then, but it feels like it's happened too often for sheer probability to fully account for incidence.

[Jim Lahey]

As sure as night follows day, the despicable piece of shit posts her usual "it's not the guns fault"..

Tbf its not the guns fault that the shooter becomes batshit crazy enough to do it.

It is the gun's fault for the scale of the tragedies though. Some dickhead wielding a knife or some other object might take out 1 or 2 people before being taken down you'd like to think. Plus you'd need to be a physically strong person to manhandle people, whereas someone with a gun (and training using it) probably can be a streaky weasel.

The fact that an elected official is coming out with that kind of wank is worrying though.

She's either a fucking nut or on the payroll of some very dodgy characters. Its access to the guns is the issue. In Ireland the Gardai apply the law strictly and it specifically prohibits access to people the GP or local Superintendent deems not fit. The wording is broad in the legislation to allow the super not issue or revoke a certificate with ease:

(b) any person of intemperate habits, and

(c) any person of unsound mind,

Unsurprisingly we have absolutely fuck all gun crime

Back in the day you had to nip down to the post office, get an international calling card, and then talk Arabic to Gaddafi, to get yourself an automatic rifle. Then head down to Western Union to send the cash.

Who could be arsed with that shit these days? Probably take the bastard a month or 2 to ship it, and doubt you could send it back and get a refund if you didn't get the colour you wanted.

Fuck that.

[inactionman]

The maddest part is the lack of restriction on carrying the things - its one thing to allow people to own guns and to use them for hunting, target shooting etc, it's another to let them to carry a loaded rifle to a pub.

[shaggy]

If by some miracle they managed to get a nationwide ban on the sale of firearms from this point forth it would help to stop the instances of young men 18 - 25 going out and buying their own brand new gun and the ammo to go with, but they still have something like 400 million guns out there with the population and there have been plenty of cases where a young person takes a poorly stored gun of their parents to go on their murder spree.

Monitoring services are also for shit. The Colorado shooting a few days ago (!!) was perpetrated by a teenager who was already on probation for owning a 'ghost gun' two years prior. Not the first time someone already on the radar for problematic behaviour has gone on to do worse. I appreciate that odds are someone will fall through the cracks every now and then, but it feels like it's happened too often for sheer probability to fully account for incidence.

Went to dinner (table of 12) in Houston last month and the average number of guns owned by the table was 28. That number included 4 Brits with no guns at all, plus some guesstimates as the responese were ‘between 40 and 50’.

[geordie_6]

Faux News...It's the doors fault, there shouldn't be any doors left open...

Oh really?....

Typical shite from the right. Blame mental health (and now trans people, apparently...) and focus on target hardening as opposed to the root issue, the fucking weapons...

[sockwithaticket]

Faux News...It's the doors fault, there shouldn't be any doors left open...

Oh really?....

Typical shite from the right. Blame mental health (and now trans people, apparently...) and focus on target hardening as opposed to the root issue, the fucking weapons...

Don't forget also refusing to do anything to improve access to and quality of mental health care.

[sockwithaticket]

If by some miracle they managed to get a nationwide ban on the sale of firearms from this point forth it would help to stop the instances of young men 18 - 25 going out and buying their own brand new gun and the ammo to go with, but they still have something like 400 million guns out there with the population and there have been plenty of cases where a young person takes a poorly stored gun of their parents to go on their murder spree.

Monitoring services are also for shit. The Colorado shooting a few days ago (!!) was perpetrated by a teenager who was already on probation for owning a 'ghost gun' two years prior. Not the first time someone already on the radar for problematic behaviour has gone on to do worse. I appreciate that odds are someone will fall through the cracks every now and then, but it feels like it's happened too often for sheer probability to fully account for incidence.

Went to dinner (table of 12) in Houston last month and the average number of guns owned by the table was 28. That number included 4 Brits with no guns at all, plus some guesstimates as the responese were ‘between 40 and 50’.

Not surprised, their per capita gun ownership is crazy high and of course they're not evenly distributed. You occasionally see pictures of collections like the ones you mention pop up online, it's extraordinary to see.

I can just about get my head around thinking you might need a handgun, semi-auto rifle, shotgun and hunting rifle as a spread of weapons for an individual. Maybe a couple of different handguns. Then maybe double that if sharing a living space with another adult, but more than 10 guns for a household seems like a compulsive purchasing problem if nothing else.

[geordie_6]

Faux News...It's the doors fault, there shouldn't be any doors left open...

Oh really?....

Typical shite from the right. Blame mental health (and now trans people, apparently...) and focus on target hardening as opposed to the root issue, the fucking weapons...

Don't forget also refusing to do anything to improve access to and quality of mental health care.

Highlight the issue in the media, vote against it in Congress...

[Sandstorm]

Highlight the issue in the media, vote against it in Congress...

I reckon the only way to solve the issue is every time a child dies in a school shooting, you sack the senator from that State and replace him with the opposition member.
They'll vote to bans all assault weapons in about 7 hours.

[geordie_6]

I don't understand why a civilian needs access to semi-auto assault style weapons. At all. Handguns, aye alright, but nobody needs anything more than that for personal defence.

Tighten access to handguns via checks supported by mental health assessment, and restrict anything bigger than that to single action weapons only. Bolt action hunting rifles will stop anything someone is minded to hunt in the US...

[geordie_6]

Highlight the issue in the media, vote against it in Congress...

I reckon the only way to solve the issue is every time a child dies in a school shooting, you sack the senator from that State and replace him with the opposition member.
They'll vote to bans all assault weapons in about 7 hours.

The turmoil it would cause would be spectacular, but would probably result in a better run country