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Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:00 pm**

GogLais wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:59 pm Poor bugger misses the last penalty and the previous two misses are forgotten.

Yep. That was 3 missed in a row.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:00 pm**

Ah well. Italy were the better team just about, and certainly a better team at penalties. Can't really complain about the result, even the guy who should've been sent off missed his.

Mount was crap, sadly Saka was even worse, so was Henderson. Only Grealish was a positive off the bench. After a strong first 35, Kane ended up in Chiellini's pocket. Did well to take it to penalties in the end.

Best team in the tournament won it, which is fair enough really.

The good news is all those people who hate England football got their wish and will never have to hear about football again!

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:00 pm**

Slick wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:59 pm Unlucky English lads, genuinely.

Not sure if I should go to bed or stay up for the riots

Aye unlucky guys.

I'm catching up with the Lions match so may keep an eye on twitter

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:01 pm**

Italian fans would do well to cover up their colours on leaving the stadium

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:01 pm**

Oh well, Italia the overall better team. Enjoyable to watch. Hard luck Poms.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:01 pm**

Saka doesn’t deserve what the Twitter wankers are going to send his way.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:02 pm**

England were fantastic in the first half, but paid a heavy price for being so timid in the second.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:02 pm**

Henderson was awful. Kane ran out of puff. Southgate left it too late for the subs.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:04 pm**

Better team won, congrats Italy.

Why does Southgate bring on two kids from the bench to take pens? They were subbed on defending a corner too! It makes no sense.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:05 pm**

ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:01 pm Saka doesn’t deserve what the Twitter wankers are going to send his way.

I can imagine Rashford being a target too.

Italy were the better side over the course, just about, well done them.

I hope my favourite pizzeria doesn't get smashed up now.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:05 pm**

That goal in the 2nd minute cost them, put them in defensive mode and could get back to attacking mode again. Usually the same problem in any sport.

MOTM for me is Italy

captain.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:08 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:05 pm That goal in the 2nd minute cost them, put them in defensive mode and could get back to attacking mode again. Usually the same problem in any sport.

MOTM for me is Italy captain.

With Italy pressing and having something like 70% possession I said to my wife that if they score England will find it difficult to come back into it as they had been set on the back foot for so long.

She didn't answer and continued to look at her phone.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:12 pm**

Tichtheid wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:08 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:05 pm That goal in the 2nd minute cost them, put them in defensive mode and could get back to attacking mode again. Usually the same problem in any sport.

MOTM for me is Italy captain.

With Italy pressing and having something like 70% possession I said to my wife that if they score England will find it difficult to come back into it as they had been set on the back foot for so long.

She didn't answer and continued to look at her phone.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:15 pm**

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:00 pm Ah well. Italy were the better team just about, and certainly a better team at penalties. Can't really complain about the result, even the guy who should've been sent off missed his.

Mount was crap, sadly Saka was even worse, so was Henderson. Only Grealish was a positive off the bench. After a strong first 35, Kane ended up in Chiellini's pocket. Did well to take it to penalties in the end.

Best team in the tournament won it, which is fair enough really.

The good news is all those people who hate England football got their wish and will never have to hear about football again!

Mount is basically Goode. Excellent club player, can't do it at international level.

Rice should be banned from moving past the opposition centre circle, he is clueless in the top part of the pitch. No wonder Kane looked so bloody forlorn, with zero midfield support and Sterling running up blind alleys all night.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:17 pm**

Pickford was England's best player.

Southgate had a stinker.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:23 pm**

I thought rice was England's best player so naturally he took him off

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:24 pm**

Commiserations England, it's a horrible way for it to end

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:26 pm**

Best team won but England should be proud of their achievements. They even managed to scrape a draw against Scotland

feel bad for Saka, why give such a huge penalty to a kid?

Ps keep your medals on you disrespectful arseholes.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:27 pm**

Hal Jordan wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:15 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:00 pm Ah well. Italy were the better team just about, and certainly a better team at penalties. Can't really complain about the result, even the guy who should've been sent off missed his.

Mount was crap, sadly Saka was even worse, so was Henderson. Only Grealish was a positive off the bench. After a strong first 35, Kane ended up in Chiellini's pocket. Did well to take it to penalties in the end.

Best team in the tournament won it, which is fair enough really.

The good news is all those people who hate England football got their wish and will never have to hear about football again!
Mount is basically Goode. Excellent club player, can't do it at international level.

Rice should be banned from moving past the opposition centre circle, he is clueless in the top part of the pitch. No wonder Kane looked so bloody forlorn, with zero midfield support and Sterling running up blind alleys all night.

Pretty harsh on Rice, who provided plenty of impetus. And on Mount, who deserves his place and has been pretty good up til now - he just had a poor performance in the final. He's usually Mr Reliable and a coach's dream. He's only just become a cracking club player, the guy's only 22 with just two seasons of Premiership football behind him.

I'm all for saying when players have not performed on the day but eh that's just silly

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:27 pm**

sturginho wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:24 pm Commiserations England, it's a horrible way for it to end

Congrats

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:28 pm**

sturginho wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:23 pm I thought rice was England's best player so naturally he took him off

He was shattered and we needed a passer, sadly Henderson is a bit of a donkey and did not add anything. Would good to develop someone for that role - Bellingham I guess is the future option there.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:29 pm**

Tattie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:26 pm Best team won but England should be proud of their achievements. They even managed to scrape a draw against Scotland feel bad for Saka, why give such a huge penalty to a kid?

Ps keep your medals on you disrespectful arseholes.

They didn’t did they? Deja vu in so many ways.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:29 pm**

Tattie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:26 pm Best team won but England should be proud of their achievements. They even managed to scrape a draw against Scotland

Makes Wales 1-0 in Rome look good.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:35 pm**

Ymx wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:29 pm
Tattie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:26 pm Best team won but England should be proud of their achievements. They even managed to scrape a draw against Scotland feel bad for Saka, why give such a huge penalty to a kid?

Ps keep your medals on you disrespectful arseholes.
They didn’t did they? Deja vu in so many ways.

They did indeed. I know they’re desperately disappointed but taking it off the second it’s hung round your neck looks a bit - I dunno - entitled?

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:36 pm**

Tattie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:26 pm Best team won but England should be proud of their achievements. They even managed to scrape a draw against Scotland feel bad for Saka, why give such a huge penalty to a kid?

Ps keep your medals on you disrespectful arseholes.

Because he wanted to? The penalty order is decided by the players.

I also like players not keeping silver medals. I don't think they should be given them.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:42 pm**

I like neeps wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:36 pm
Tattie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:26 pm Best team won but England should be proud of their achievements. They even managed to scrape a draw against Scotland feel bad for Saka, why give such a huge penalty to a kid?

Ps keep your medals on you disrespectful arseholes.
Because he wanted to? The penalty order is decided by the players.

I also like players not keeping silver medals. I don't think they should be given them.

Well maybe not but Olympic silver and bronze medalists don’t whip them off the instant they’re given them.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:51 pm**

Because they have to stand and wait for a ceremony where they are hailed as successes, while in a team sport the ceremony is just them being given the medals in the first place, and they essentially represent coming last on the day

It's pretty common in football but hey

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:55 pm**

GogLais wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:42 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:36 pm
Tattie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:26 pm Best team won but England should be proud of their achievements. They even managed to scrape a draw against Scotland feel bad for Saka, why give such a huge penalty to a kid?

Ps keep your medals on you disrespectful arseholes.
Because he wanted to? The penalty order is decided by the players.

I also like players not keeping silver medals. I don't think they should be given them.
Well maybe not but Olympic silver and bronze medalists don’t whip them off the instant they’re given them.

They have to take the podium pictures in the Olympics to be fair - I'd be interested how many keep them after.

I don't think it's disrespectful to take off silver medals. You aren't there to get silver - I doubt the Italian players cared they took them off.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:01 pm**

The abuse Saka is getting at the moment is horrific. It’s extraordinary how abusive this is. I am genuinely shocked at how bad it is.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:13 pm**

ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:01 pm The abuse Saka is getting at the moment is horrific. It’s extraordinary how abusive this is. I am genuinely shocked at how bad it is.

It's lucky he won't read any of it as it's all his media agency controlling it. Sport players just shouldn't have social media I think. It's a shame but there's far too many miserable c*nts who achieve nothing with their life and take it out on successful people about.

Posted: **Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:29 am**

𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗚𝗼𝗼𝗱
A far better run than the doomsayers at outset and something to build upon. The majority enjoying something positive.
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗕𝗮𝗱
Despite all the practising, England still poor at penalties.
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗨𝗴𝗹𝘆
Racist abuse towards players who missed pens.
9 police officers injured.
Break in to Wembley.
Lunatic on the pitch during the game.
Laser into the Danish keeper's eyes/face.
The mass booing/whistling drowning the German anthem.

Football needs to get its house in order.

Posted: **Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:30 am**

I like neeps wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:13 pm
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:01 pm The abuse Saka is getting at the moment is horrific. It’s extraordinary how abusive this is. I am genuinely shocked at how bad it is.
It's lucky he won't read any of it as it's all his media agency controlling it. Sport players just shouldn't have social media I think. It's a shame but there's far too many miserable FOOTBALL c*nts who achieve nothing with their life and take it out on successful people about.

Posted: **Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:36 am**

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:00 pm The good news is all those people who hate England football got their wish and will never have to hear about football again!

Until the next major tournament.

And given the behaviour of way too many of their "fans", you are surprised why so many dislike Eng?

In all seriousness, this was their best chance since before most people here were born:
- a very easy pool. Maybe the Dutch one was easier.
- all home games bar one which meant they didn't suffer the travel like Wales, and they had the home support.
- all the big guys killed one another off which meant it was always coming down to one game against one decent opponent and Eng came up just short.

I'd settle for never having to hear "It's coming home again".

Posted: **Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:10 am**

Rashford's penalty was poor. I don't mind if you hit it hard and hit the target and the keeper saves it, but if you mess about and try to be too clever then it is annoying. Not sure why Saka was asked to take the 5th penalty surely there were more experienced players who could step up.

Posted: **Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:35 am**

Woosh, Torq

Posted: **Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:37 am**

ia801310 wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:10 am Rashford's penalty was poor. I don't mind if you hit it hard and hit the target and the keeper saves it, but if you mess about and try to be too clever then it is annoying. Not sure why Saka was asked to take the 5th penalty surely there were more experienced players who could step up.

Yeah, it was all quite bizarre, But to Southgate's credit at least he's owned the fuck up.

Posted: **Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:37 am**

JM2K6 wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:00 pm

The good news is all those people who hate England football got their wish and will never have to hear about football again!

At least our wonderful government won't be able to jump on another populist bandwagon...

Posted: **Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:40 am**

Yeah, small mercies.

Also there's no way that "England only played one decent team" stands up to any scrutiny. But hey, we lost on the fifth penalty of a shootout against the best team in the competition, so let's rush to diminish the team's achievement...

Posted: **Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:44 am**

ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:00 pm Why didn’t the great English hope Grealish take one? Aside from that, I really do feel for Saka. That’s so tough for a 19 year old. He’ll carry that for the rest of his life.

Because he didn't ask to take one.

Posted: **Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:45 am**

Penalties are always a gamble and cant blame the individual players. They have decided long before the final who will take it. Doesn't matter how much they practice it, when they take it under such pressure each player will react differently. Rushford would not miss like that in a 1000 times.

Luke Shaw my English MOTM

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