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Sards wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:54 pm

handyman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:15 pm

Sards wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:58 am Can you Adam and Eve this...

Schools are now going back full time......

BUT......the kids have to be at school starting at 08.30 from grade 2 upwards.....

WTF.....Now parents have to change all their work hours because the lazy vokkers cant get in earlier...they have been on vokken paid leave long enough.

Now this is one of the 5% posts of yours where you actually talk some sense. In my neck of the woods, you have to be at work from 8:00. No boss is going to like if you want to work flexible hours, it does not work like that in the platteland.

I am so over teachers and their holier than thou attitude. Lazy vokkers....my kids did probably 8 weeks of 2 days a week schooling last year......

And they are crying because so many of their colleagues died from Covid.....suck it up buttercup....so did everyone lose people. And I guarantee those infections were from kuier and not from work environment....

As I said...lazy and selfish assholes

assfly wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:17 pm I'm married to a teacher. When schools closed they had to go to online learning which some teachers were good at an other struggled. Had to take a paycut, and when not delivering lessons she was marking and doing one-on-one. Ended up putting in more hours than ever before, usually 12 hour days and weekends.

On top of this she had to manage our two kids who were also doing online learning, one was fine with it and the other struggled. In between her own online lessons she had to jump onto their calls and help with their homework.

The stress levels for teachers have been through the roof, and are on the receiving end of angry parents not wanting to pay full school fees yet expecting world-class teaching through Zoom. Many of her teacher friends both in SA and England have resigned from teaching, and a lot of schools face a critical shortage of teachers.

Be patient with your kids teachers and schools. This whole situation is fucked up for everyone.

handyman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:15 pm

Sards wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:58 am Can you Adam and Eve this...

Schools are now going back full time......

BUT......the kids have to be at school starting at 08.30 from grade 2 upwards.....

WTF.....Now parents have to change all their work hours because the lazy vokkers cant get in earlier...they have been on vokken paid leave long enough.

Now this is one of the 5% posts of yours where you actually talk some sense. In my neck of the woods, you have to be at work from 8:00. No boss is going to like if you want to work flexible hours, it does not work like that in the platteland.

assfly wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:17 pm I'm married to a teacher. When schools closed they had to go to online learning which some teachers were good at an other struggled. Had to take a paycut, and when not delivering lessons she was marking and doing one-on-one. Ended up putting in more hours than ever before, usually 12 hour days and weekends.

On top of this she had to manage our two kids who were also doing online learning, one was fine with it and the other struggled. In between her own online lessons she had to jump onto their calls and help with their homework.

The stress levels for teachers have been through the roof, and are on the receiving end of angry parents not wanting to pay full school fees yet expecting world-class teaching through Zoom. Many of her teacher friends both in SA and England have resigned from teaching, and a lot of schools face a critical shortage of teachers.

Be patient with your kids teachers and schools. This whole situation is fucked up for everyone.

Blake wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:47 pm

handyman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:15 pm

Sards wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:58 am Can you Adam and Eve this...

Schools are now going back full time......

BUT......the kids have to be at school starting at 08.30 from grade 2 upwards.....

WTF.....Now parents have to change all their work hours because the lazy vokkers cant get in earlier...they have been on vokken paid leave long enough.

Now this is one of the 5% posts of yours where you actually talk some sense. In my neck of the woods, you have to be at work from 8:00. No boss is going to like if you want to work flexible hours, it does not work like that in the platteland.

Please explain the problem to me because I don't get it. So you drop your kid off at school at 07:30 and they sit around until school officially opens at 08:30? Nobody is saying to have to drop your kid off at 08:25, travel back in time and arrive at work at 08:00.

I recall my parents having to drop me off at 07:00 as a kid (to dodge their commute traffic) and school only starting at 08:00. It gave me an hour to do the homework I didn't do the day before, or play soccer with the other kids that were also early. Please educate me.

assfly wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:17 pm I'm married to a teacher. When schools closed they had to go to online learning which some teachers were good at an other struggled. Had to take a paycut, and when not delivering lessons she was marking and doing one-on-one. Ended up putting in more hours than ever before, usually 12 hour days and weekends.

On top of this she had to manage our two kids who were also doing online learning, one was fine with it and the other struggled. In between her own online lessons she had to jump onto their calls and help with their homework.

The stress levels for teachers have been through the roof, and are on the receiving end of angry parents not wanting to pay full school fees yet expecting world-class teaching through Zoom. Many of her teacher friends both in SA and England have resigned from teaching, and a lot of schools face a critical shortage of teachers.

Be patient with your kids teachers and schools. This whole situation is fucked up for everyone.

Rinkals wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:45 pm As I said: ill-informed.

Sards wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:12 pm You obviously don't have kids...
Procedure...your kid goes through a screening process at the allocated time to check temperature. If your kid has a temperature you have to take them home. So not a case of just dropping them off senor.

Sards wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:08 pm

Rinkals wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:45 pm As I said: ill-informed.

Trust me. It's the current sentiment here.
Just remember. Parents have had to hold jobs, take care of and educate the children. And somehow now teachers want us to change our work times to accommodate them...who have been on leave since early December...

I think its a bloody cheek.

Blake wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:08 pm

Sards wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:12 pm You obviously don't have kids...
Procedure...your kid goes through a screening process at the allocated time to check temperature. If your kid has a temperature you have to take them home. So not a case of just dropping them off senor.

All I hear is problems and complaining. Simple solution: buy your own damn thermometer and take their temp before leaving the house. In the unlikely case they develop a fever in the hour between when you measured and the school measures...just go fetch them. It’s not rocket science.

Blake wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:10 pm

Sards wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:08 pm

Rinkals wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:45 pm As I said: ill-informed.

Trust me. It's the current sentiment here.
Just remember. Parents have had to hold jobs, take care of and educate the children. And somehow now teachers want us to change our work times to accommodate them...who have been on leave since early December...

I think its a bloody cheek.

And we think you are a massive poes...but hey, sard is the only hard worker in the world so what do the rest of us know.

Blake wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:10 pm

Sards wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:08 pm

Rinkals wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:45 pm As I said: ill-informed.

Trust me. It's the current sentiment here.
Just remember. Parents have had to hold jobs, take care of and educate the children. And somehow now teachers want us to change our work times to accommodate them...who have been on leave since early December...

I think its a bloody cheek.

And we think you are a massive poes...but hey, sard is the only hard worker in the world so what do the rest of us know.

Fangle wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:37 pm I would think that teaching a class of 20 - 30 kids remotely is very difficult. Trying to control and interest kids over the internet and keep their interest up for 20 minutes at a time must be very stressful. And keep this going for 6 - 8 hours daily. And instead of preparing a normal class, you have to prepare digital classes every day, especially for the first year is a new approach and daily you learn what works and what doesn’t.

Unlike Sards, I am not envious of them.

Sards wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:14 pm

Fangle wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:37 pm I would think that teaching a class of 20 - 30 kids remotely is very difficult. Trying to control and interest kids over the internet and keep their interest up for 20 minutes at a time must be very stressful. And keep this going for 6 - 8 hours daily. And instead of preparing a normal class, you have to prepare digital classes every day, especially for the first year is a new approach and daily you learn what works and what doesn’t.

Unlike Sards, I am not envious of them.

Exactly Fangle. Very good point. A teacher is trained to teach a class. Surely that can translate into digital classes. It can't be that difficult to get the teachers to prepare a video class each day in a particular subject.
But no...they don't have the skills. They don't have wifi...
Most schools have a computer room and computer teacher. My kid is head computer monitor and he sets up all the computers for the teachers with his assistants. He can prepare a video and has made some really touching videos during lockdown. He made his brother a video for his birthday because the young one couldn't have a party. He got all my youngest kids friends to send a video clip and he edited into a birthday video...it was beautiful. He has taken the time to learn video editing .... the teachers could have done the same.....you would think. One teacher at the school did...sadly not one of my kids
teacher. It was circulated amongst all the parents and was great...
You move with the times. All of us did online courses during hard lockdown. In different fields. To assist us going forward in a Covid world.
I lay most of the blame on the education department. They could have done better instead of taking extended holiday after extended holiday.

At the end of the day...as a parent...its heart breaking to see your children become gaming zombies because there is nothing else for them to do....

Fangle wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:28 pm To prepare a class properly takes hours. I know having taught for a few years. To prepare half a dozen classes a day would kill me. This is over and beyond trying to control the children remotely when it’s hard enough to impose your presence on them in the classroom. To do your job properly would take upwards of 14 hours of stress a day. It’s no doddle.

To teach remotely is very different from being live in a classroom.

Sards wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:22 pm My mates and I are very frustrated about how the last year was handled for our children. We are angry that not enough of an attempt was made. And angry that so much time was just wasted on holiday without anything productive coming out of it....

A little while ago my eldest had a group of friends around. After a swim they pulled out my casino chips and black jack set for a game. 2 kids out of the 6 couldn't play because they couldn't add up to 21...and these are 12 year olds...it was so sad to see. Is this how we want our kids to grow up.
End 9f rant.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:20 am Ja you are posting a heap of kak here and think we believe it.

Its not the schools responsibility, it yours as a parent. Locked down give you the opportunity to spend more time with them.

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:54 pm Weird that anyone thinks education during lockdown should be as good/effective as during a normal year. Someone believing that probably has gaps in his own education.

Sards wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:02 pm

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:54 pm Weird that anyone thinks education during lockdown should be as good/effective as during a normal year. Someone believing that probably has gaps in his own education.

Love it...the vagina is adding her 2 cents.
Do you think that my clients would accept inferior products if I blamed Covid.....no vokken way. In fact we moved into a high end bracket. To survive. Typical South African attitudes....blame the vokken dog and cat...

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:04 pm

Sards wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:02 pm

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:54 pm Weird that anyone thinks education during lockdown should be as good/effective as during a normal year. Someone believing that probably has gaps in his own education.

Love it...the vagina is adding her 2 cents.
Do you think that my clients would accept inferior products if I blamed Covid.....no vokken way. In fact we moved into a high end bracket. To survive. Typical South African attitudes....blame the vokken dog and cat...

Controlling 7 adult men in person in a small factory is exactly the same as trying to keep 35 kids focussed on Zoom. Idiot.

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:34 pm That fact is you’re an idiot.

Sards wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:35 pm

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:34 pm That fact is you’re an idiot.

I keep forgetting you are on the rag..Best to give you chocolate and leave you alone to wallow in your own self pity