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I think you understate just how hard it is to beat Leinster. For me, bar Leyd's brainfarts, they've played an almost perfect game.JM2K6 wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:47 pm Does James Lowe have a pithy nickname? Writing out James "Jimmy" "bed-shitting disaster waiting to happen" Lowe is too much effort every time.
Turning into a drubbing now. La Rochelle not at their best today.
Lots of complaints about the ref but also Lowe.
Maybe. They have no real experience this deep so I think they are expected to have some nerves. Thought they were the only Frog side who had any chance of beating Leinster so relieved!!!JM2K6 wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:51 pm I don't think they've been bad or anything, I just think they've been a bit too inaccurate at times. They can improve. Doesn't feel like one of those times when a team just raised their game to an incredible level.
Yes that's fair. For some reason French sides suffer less from lack of experience of the knock out stages, I find.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:55 pmMaybe. They have no real experience this deep so I think they are expected to have some nerves. Thought they were the only Frog side who had any chance of beating Leinster so relieved!!!JM2K6 wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:51 pm I don't think they've been bad or anything, I just think they've been a bit too inaccurate at times. They can improve. Doesn't feel like one of those times when a team just raised their game to an incredible level.
ST have too many injuries at the moment and you forget that Merde-ard at least evens up any f**kwitedness by Lowe.JM2K6 wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:57 pmYes that's fair. For some reason French sides suffer less from lack of experience of the knock out stages, I find.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:55 pmMaybe. They have no real experience this deep so I think they are expected to have some nerves. Thought they were the only Frog side who had any chance of beating Leinster so relieved!!!JM2K6 wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:51 pm I don't think they've been bad or anything, I just think they've been a bit too inaccurate at times. They can improve. Doesn't feel like one of those times when a team just raised their game to an incredible level.
Can't see how Toulouse would have lost to Leinster though. That back three vs Lowe would been an absolute car crash.
Shame on you Niegs - laughing at trollsNiegs wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:52 pmLots of complaints about the ref but also Lowe.
Had a chuckle at the two who trolled with “Leinstertamed” and “Leinstershamed”
Almost getting choked in the maul, having the ball ripped and (unlucky not to) score would have been some big coffin nail there!
Deserved win by Montpellier today, but I think the big gap between games really fucked up Leinster.laurent wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 5:06 pm Good 15 by Leinster then nothing much La Rochelle were patient and took over once they got the weird reffing spell figured out.
Crazy win last night by Montpellier (trouble is I dislike the upstarts as much as Leicester...
By the end, in truth, Leinster were well beaten. Despite a promising start which saw them strike first, they were already hanging onto the slenderest of leads at half-time before being blown away by La Rochelle’s power and potency. Damn, they’re good.
Dunno. Think there's a few players there who are getting by on reputation/hype rather than form and the opposition in pro 14 is so weak, they don't get shown up until it is too late.fishfoodie wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 6:24 pmDeserved win by Montpellier today, but I think the big gap between games really fucked up Leinster.laurent wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 5:06 pm Good 15 by Leinster then nothing much La Rochelle were patient and took over once they got the weird reffing spell figured out.
Crazy win last night by Montpellier (trouble is I dislike the upstarts as much as Leicester...
They had things just right with Exeter; with a tough inter-pro against Munster a couple of weeks before; & everyone was in tune; today they never looked up to their usual pace; & they never got in tune with Carley, & they suffered as a result.
It's really shite, because they had a squad of players this year that could, & should have delivered.
Uncle fester wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 10:42 pmDunno. Think there's a few players there who are getting by on reputation/hype rather than form and the opposition in pro 14 is so weak, they don't get shown up until it is too late.fishfoodie wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 6:24 pmDeserved win by Montpellier today, but I think the big gap between games really fucked up Leinster.laurent wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 5:06 pm Good 15 by Leinster then nothing much La Rochelle were patient and took over once they got the weird reffing spell figured out.
Crazy win last night by Montpellier (trouble is I dislike the upstarts as much as Leicester...
They had things just right with Exeter; with a tough inter-pro against Munster a couple of weeks before; & everyone was in tune; today they never looked up to their usual pace; & they never got in tune with Carley, & they suffered as a result.
It's really shite, because they had a squad of players this year that could, & should have delivered.
Lots of factors at play here. Some players aren't in great form (Lowe and Larmour for example), and a few are of a certain age that they don't delivery to the heights they once did (thinking of the likes of Toner and Fardy, possibly Healy too). There are also a good number of injuries, mainly impacting the strength in depth and the bench impact.Uncle fester wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 10:42 pmDunno. Think there's a few players there who are getting by on reputation/hype rather than form and the opposition in pro 14 is so weak, they don't get shown up until it is too late.fishfoodie wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 6:24 pmDeserved win by Montpellier today, but I think the big gap between games really fucked up Leinster.laurent wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 5:06 pm Good 15 by Leinster then nothing much La Rochelle were patient and took over once they got the weird reffing spell figured out.
Crazy win last night by Montpellier (trouble is I dislike the upstarts as much as Leicester...
They had things just right with Exeter; with a tough inter-pro against Munster a couple of weeks before; & everyone was in tune; today they never looked up to their usual pace; & they never got in tune with Carley, & they suffered as a result.
It's really shite, because they had a squad of players this year that could, & should have delivered.
There's definitely an end of cycle feel to this year. Luckily for them Leinster have already made good progress in blooding players. Will all of them be of the required standard though?salanya wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 2:02 pmLots of factors at play here. Some players aren't in great form (Lowe and Larmour for example), and a few are of a certain age that they don't delivery to the heights they once did (thinking of the likes of Toner and Fardy, possibly Healy too). There are also a good number of injuries, mainly impacting the strength in depth and the bench impact.Uncle fester wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 10:42 pmDunno. Think there's a few players there who are getting by on reputation/hype rather than form and the opposition in pro 14 is so weak, they don't get shown up until it is too late.fishfoodie wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 6:24 pm
Deserved win by Montpellier today, but I think the big gap between games really fucked up Leinster.
They had things just right with Exeter; with a tough inter-pro against Munster a couple of weeks before; & everyone was in tune; today they never looked up to their usual pace; & they never got in tune with Carley, & they suffered as a result.
It's really shite, because they had a squad of players this year that could, & should have delivered.
Then the disruption between matches hasn't helped, and travel probably is more challenging in Covid times. Also felt that the ref didn't help the match, all very stop-start - though obviously La Rochelle adjusted to him well and Leinster did not.
Technically you could just simplify it and concede that La Rochelle played very well, and that Leinster just had a bit of an off-day - even a few percent off can allow a good team like LAR to get on top. The Exeter match (with a very similar selection) is too recent to doubt the potential of this Leinster team. This doesn't mean that Leo and Lancaster haven't got work to do, and the team will need continued development.
So yeah, basically agreeing with your post.