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Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:24 am Why didn't the TMO review the forearm into the face?

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:37 am Aussie crowd making me cheer for Covid

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:35 am

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:24 am Why didn't the TMO review the forearm into the face?

Braced to the body, only foul play if it's a strike away from the body.


Frustrating thing about the red card is there's no way the TMO picks it up without the ridiculous French play acting. It was a red, he did hit him high with a large amount of force, but it's also rewarded some pretty grim simulation.

Anyway, coaches need to expect brains more than insane "commitment". Fewer players racing in from thirty yards just to try and smash someone regardless of body height and safety would be a good thing.

Aussie commentators are both ill informed and very bitchy, which is funny

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:40 am

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:35 am

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:24 am Why didn't the TMO review the forearm into the face?

Braced to the body, only foul play if it's a strike away from the body.


Frustrating thing about the red card is there's no way the TMO picks it up without the ridiculous French play acting. It was a red, he did hit him high with a large amount of force, but it's also rewarded some pretty grim simulation.

Anyway, coaches need to expect brains more than insane "commitment". Fewer players racing in from thirty yards just to try and smash someone regardless of body height and safety would be a good thing.

Aussie commentators are both ill informed and very bitchy, which is funny

The no.8 bent down. There was mitigation.

I'm all for player safety but rugby is a contact sport. There will occasionally be contacts with the head.

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:45 am

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:40 am

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:35 am

Braced to the body, only foul play if it's a strike away from the body.


Frustrating thing about the red card is there's no way the TMO picks it up without the ridiculous French play acting. It was a red, he did hit him high with a large amount of force, but it's also rewarded some pretty grim simulation.

Anyway, coaches need to expect brains more than insane "commitment". Fewer players racing in from thirty yards just to try and smash someone regardless of body height and safety would be a good thing.

Aussie commentators are both ill informed and very bitchy, which is funny

The no.8 bent down. There was mitigation.

I'm all for player safety but rugby is a contact sport. There will occasionally be contacts with the head.

He didn't drop much. If he was bolt upright he still gets hit in the chest. Every player drops height a little bit when they carry or brace for contact - it's not an excuse. The height drop mitigation is for situations when a player suddenly drops or slips, not for the thing that happens in 95% of contact situations and should be anticipated by the tackler.

If he'd tried to take him waist high or thigh high, he doesn't smash the guy in the head.

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:52 am I think red cards should be for serious foul play or two yellow cards.

It's far too big a sanction for a tackle collision like we saw.

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:52 am

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:52 am I think red cards should be for serious foul play or two yellow cards.

It's far too big a sanction for a tackle collision like we saw.

Smashing someone in the head is serious

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:54 am

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:52 am

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:52 am I think red cards should be for serious foul play or two yellow cards.

It's far too big a sanction for a tackle collision like we saw.

Smashing someone in the head is serious

Seriously fella, trying playing the game first, at any level.

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:55 am Such a shame, that was a brilliant down the tramline from jaminet. How quick is Thomas? Don't think I've ever really seen him at full speed in open field.

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:57 am

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:55 am Such a shame, that was a brilliant down the tramline from jaminet. How quick is Thomas? Don't think I've ever really seen him at full speed in open field.

Terrifying pace. Not sure how the ref missed like three knock ons at the time, mind

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:55 am

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:54 am

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:52 am

Smashing someone in the head is serious

Seriously fella, trying playing the game first, at any level.

Thanks, I have. Maybe you should read literally anything about the danger facing the sport with brain injuries.

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:56 am

Actually, this makes me far happier with red. He lowers earlier than I thought, and Koribete just smashes through him regardless.

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:58 am

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:55 am

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:54 am



Seriously fella, trying playing the game first, at any level.

Thanks, I have. Maybe you should read literally anything about the danger facing the sport with brain injuries.

There's very little empathy with what actually happens at collisions. If rugby wants to totally eliminate ALL head collisions them it has two routes it can follow; 1. Make all rugby touch/tag rugby only, 2. Cease playing all forms of rugby.

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:04 am SBW demonstrating his intellectual heft while discussing the card in the studio

Raggs wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:59 am Right, I'm going to miss the rest of this unfortunately. Shame it's so ruined so far. Full half of ruined rugby with no interest, intrigue or fun to watch.

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:04 am

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:58 am

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:55 am
Thanks, I have. Maybe you should read literally anything about the danger facing the sport with brain injuries.

There's very little empathy with what actually happens at collisions. If rugby wants to totally eliminate ALL head collisions them it has two routes it can follow; 1. Make all rugby touch/tag rugby only, 2. Cease playing all forms of rugby.

Confused why you are referring to a deliberate action lined up from thirty yards by a player with a clear view the entire way, on a near static opponent, as a "collision". It was a tackle, and a bad one. Koroibete made a really bad decision to try and hit high on the chest while flying in at full pace, and ended up hitting his opponent in the head. It's really that simple - anyone who's played the game knows that players will dip for contact, and tacklers must take that into account. Koroibete was too interested in putting in a big hit to consider player safety.