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Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 12:26 pm**

tabascoboy wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 12:15 pm So, anyone here expecting to receive one of these? Maybe it's not a good pic but it looks a bit, I don't know.....shit?

That solid silver?

At £50 per medal, that’s £20m burnt.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 12:43 pm**

A professional contact I know runs a homeless charity, they go out on a Thursday night in London and distribute clothes, sleeping bags etc. I saw him today and he said their usual numbers were well down, it appears the Met have rounded up a lot of the homeless and put them in temporary shelters to get them off the streets for the Coronation.

Don't worry, they're bring turfed back out there in a few days' time.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 1:02 pm**

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:21 pm £100 mil is peanuts compared with what this is doing for UK tourism. I just got back from USA and they’re going nuts for the new king.

UK needs cash now and this show will bring it in in barrow loads.

What a load of old bollox. This has been debunked time and again with surveys.

"Mr Tourist, would the absence of a monarchy (whose chances you have of seeing in the 10 mins you are taking selfies on The Mall is nil) alter your intentions to holiday in the UK?".

The reverse is true i.e. the revenue that could be gained by charging dribbling American morons to visit the dozens of properties owned by the monarchy.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 1:04 pm**

Ymx wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 12:26 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 12:15 pm So, anyone here expecting to receive one of these? Maybe it's not a good pic but it looks a bit, I don't know.....shit?

That solid silver?

At £50 per medal, that’s £20m burnt.

Alloy of copper/nickel/zinc with no actual silver most likely so very little intrinsic value, and at least production costs are low. Looks cheap and is cheap...

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 1:07 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 1:02 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:21 pm £100 mil is peanuts compared with what this is doing for UK tourism. I just got back from USA and they’re going nuts for the new king.

UK needs cash now and this show will bring it in in barrow loads.
What a load of old bollox. This has been debunked time and again with surveys.

"Mr Tourist, would the absence of a monarchy (whose chances you have of seeing in the 10 mins you are taking selfies on The Mall is nil) alter your intentions to holiday in the UK?".

The reverse is true i.e. the revenue that could be gained by charging dribbling American morons to visit the dozens of properties owned by the monarchy.

How are surveys debunking this, exactly?

It keeps the UK in the international eye, which is what drives at least some degree of tourism.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 1:59 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 1:02 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:21 pm £100 mil is peanuts compared with what this is doing for UK tourism. I just got back from USA and they’re going nuts for the new king.

UK needs cash now and this show will bring it in in barrow loads.
What a load of old bollox. This has been debunked time and again with surveys.

"Mr Tourist, would the absence of a monarchy (whose chances you have of seeing in the 10 mins you are taking selfies on The Mall is nil) alter your intentions to holiday in the UK?".

The reverse is true i.e. the revenue that could be gained by charging dribbling American morons to visit the dozens of properties owned by the monarchy.

I’d guess that’s the case. Open up all the palaces, Balmoral, Sandringham, etc and let out all the hunting, shooting and fishing rights. And as I’ve said ad nauseam the idea that we base our constitution on how much money it brings in is misguided.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 2:14 pm**

And anyway - if all this stuff was public property and somebody said “We’ll make more money if we give it to somebody famous and drastically reduce access”, we’d think it was bollox wouldn’t we?

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 2:24 pm**

Biffer wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 8:03 am Yeah, the civil service will implement your policy, so long as it's legal, but will make sure the cunsequences of that policy are fully understood. It's hearing the latter that these ideological zealots like Truss and Kwarteng don't like.

Civil Service are an easy target as we are not allowed to voice our opinions in public so the Govt can say pretty much what they like and we cannot respond.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 2:33 pm**

The Civil Service thing is part of the ambition to get rid of The Blob and replace it with US style political appointments who will be willing accomplices rather than sober naysmiths.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 2:40 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 1:02 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:21 pm £100 mil is peanuts compared with what this is doing for UK tourism. I just got back from USA and they’re going nuts for the new king.

UK needs cash now and this show will bring it in in barrow loads.
What a load of old bollox. This has been debunked time and again with surveys.

"Mr Tourist, would the absence of a monarchy (whose chances you have of seeing in the 10 mins you are taking selfies on The Mall is nil) alter your intentions to holiday in the UK?".

The reverse is true i.e. the revenue that could be gained by charging dribbling American morons to visit the dozens of properties owned by the monarchy.

It's hard to measure these things. The Royal Palaces and castles are for the most part nothing special, but people want to see the places because of the people and stories that come from them. End that and you likely end the tourism, if you want to see spectacular palaces and castles you'd head to Rajasthan every day of the week and twice on a Sunday. Similar principle - Hougoumont is just a farmhouse in a desolate field in Belgium, but people like myself end up visiting it because of what happened there.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 3:23 pm**

BBC forecast says a strong chance of rain.

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Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 3:41 pm**

Hal Jordan wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 3:23 pm BBC forecast says a strong chance of rain.

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Doesn't look good for those who have organised street parties for sure.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 3:56 pm**

Paddington Bear wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 2:40 pm It's hard to measure these things. The Royal Palaces and castles are for the most part nothing special, but people want to see the places because of the people and stories that come from them. End that and you likely end the tourism, if you want to see spectacular palaces and castles you'd head to Rajasthan every day of the week and twice on a Sunday. Similar principle - Hougoumont is just a farmhouse in a desolate field in Belgium, but people like myself end up visiting it because of what happened there.

Footfall in Versailles, The Hermitage and the Taj Mahal don't appear to have suffered!

Your last line kinda contradicts your 1st point?

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 4:07 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 3:56 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 2:40 pm It's hard to measure these things. The Royal Palaces and castles are for the most part nothing special, but people want to see the places because of the people and stories that come from them. End that and you likely end the tourism, if you want to see spectacular palaces and castles you'd head to Rajasthan every day of the week and twice on a Sunday. Similar principle - Hougoumont is just a farmhouse in a desolate field in Belgium, but people like myself end up visiting it because of what happened there.
Footfall in Versailles, The Hermitage and the Taj Mahal don't appear to have suffered!

Your last line kinda contradicts your 1st point?

No it doesn't - people are visiting Buckingham Palace because it was the Queen's house, is Charles', was where a lot of recent drama happened. Almost no one is wanting to see where George VI stuttered or it's reasonably unexceptional architecture.
And the three places you mentioned make my point - all are stunning in a way the British royal residences aren't. And Versailles has a hell of a lot of world changing history that occurred there and the Hermitage is one of the world's greatest art galleries, that I'm very glad to have visited given I'm unlikely to get a chance to again in the near future.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 4:24 pm**

Paddington Bear wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:07 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 3:56 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 2:40 pm It's hard to measure these things. The Royal Palaces and castles are for the most part nothing special, but people want to see the places because of the people and stories that come from them. End that and you likely end the tourism, if you want to see spectacular palaces and castles you'd head to Rajasthan every day of the week and twice on a Sunday. Similar principle - Hougoumont is just a farmhouse in a desolate field in Belgium, but people like myself end up visiting it because of what happened there.
Footfall in Versailles, The Hermitage and the Taj Mahal don't appear to have suffered!

Your last line kinda contradicts your 1st point?
No it doesn't - people are visiting Buckingham Palace because it was the Queen's house, is Charles', was where a lot of recent drama happened. Almost no one is wanting to see where George VI stuttered or it's reasonably unexceptional architecture.
And the three places you mentioned make my point - all are stunning in a way the British royal residences aren't. And Versailles has a hell of a lot of world changing history that occurred there and the Hermitage is one of the world's greatest art galleries, that I'm very glad to have visited given I'm unlikely to get a chance to again in the near future.

London is currently rammed with American tourists. Must be a coincidence that Charlie is getting his crown on.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 4:24 pm**

inactionman wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 1:07 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 1:02 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:21 pm £100 mil is peanuts compared with what this is doing for UK tourism. I just got back from USA and they’re going nuts for the new king.

UK needs cash now and this show will bring it in in barrow loads.
What a load of old bollox. This has been debunked time and again with surveys.

"Mr Tourist, would the absence of a monarchy (whose chances you have of seeing in the 10 mins you are taking selfies on The Mall is nil) alter your intentions to holiday in the UK?".

The reverse is true i.e. the revenue that could be gained by charging dribbling American morons to visit the dozens of properties owned by the monarchy.
How are surveys debunking this, exactly?

It keeps the UK in the international eye, which is what drives at least some degree of tourism.

True. Andrew has brought a lot of attention to the royals alright.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 5:14 pm**

shaggy wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:24 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:07 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 3:56 pm

Footfall in Versailles, The Hermitage and the Taj Mahal don't appear to have suffered!

Your last line kinda contradicts your 1st point?
No it doesn't - people are visiting Buckingham Palace because it was the Queen's house, is Charles', was where a lot of recent drama happened. Almost no one is wanting to see where George VI stuttered or it's reasonably unexceptional architecture.
And the three places you mentioned make my point - all are stunning in a way the British royal residences aren't. And Versailles has a hell of a lot of world changing history that occurred there and the Hermitage is one of the world's greatest art galleries, that I'm very glad to have visited given I'm unlikely to get a chance to again in the near future.
London is currently rammed with American tourists. Must be a coincidence that Charlie is getting his crown on.

That’s good. Maybe what twenty years until the next one?

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 7:31 pm**

Well, I think this sums it up nicely

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 7:53 pm**

Paddington Bear wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:07 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 3:56 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 2:40 pm It's hard to measure these things. The Royal Palaces and castles are for the most part nothing special, but people want to see the places because of the people and stories that come from them. End that and you likely end the tourism, if you want to see spectacular palaces and castles you'd head to Rajasthan every day of the week and twice on a Sunday. Similar principle - Hougoumont is just a farmhouse in a desolate field in Belgium, but people like myself end up visiting it because of what happened there.
Footfall in Versailles, The Hermitage and the Taj Mahal don't appear to have suffered!

Your last line kinda contradicts your 1st point?
No it doesn't - people are visiting Buckingham Palace because it was the Queen's house, is Charles', was where a lot of recent drama happened. Almost no one is wanting to see where George VI stuttered or it's reasonably unexceptional architecture.
And the three places you mentioned make my point - all are stunning in a way the British royal residences aren't. And Versailles has a hell of a lot of world changing history that occurred there and the Hermitage is one of the world's greatest art galleries, that I'm very glad to have visited given I'm unlikely to get a chance to again in the near future.

If we got rid of the Royals then the footfall would be massive.
For years and years
Visit Buck Palace when the English Monarchy once lived.
This is where Philip entertained his whores and Andrew abused young girls and Charles plotted his wife's death...
A PR man's delight

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 9:54 pm**

I wonder how many Liverpool fans will sing along with GSTK.

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2023 10:17 pm**

GogLais wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 9:54 pm I wonder how many Liverpool fans will sing along with GSTK.

Booooooo

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 3:55 am**

shaggy wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:24 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:07 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 3:56 pm

Footfall in Versailles, The Hermitage and the Taj Mahal don't appear to have suffered!

Your last line kinda contradicts your 1st point?
No it doesn't - people are visiting Buckingham Palace because it was the Queen's house, is Charles', was where a lot of recent drama happened. Almost no one is wanting to see where George VI stuttered or it's reasonably unexceptional architecture.
And the three places you mentioned make my point - all are stunning in a way the British royal residences aren't. And Versailles has a hell of a lot of world changing history that occurred there and the Hermitage is one of the world's greatest art galleries, that I'm very glad to have visited given I'm unlikely to get a chance to again in the near future.
London is currently rammed with American tourists. Must be a coincidence that Charlie is getting his crown on.

Could be, my yank brother and his yank girlfriend have been in London the last month. First overseas holiday he's been able to take since COVID and he claims everything is insanely cheap, like half the price he pays back in Vermont. Bastard. His visit had nothing to do with the royal coronation since he has no interest in celebrity culture but tbf many yanks do, so maybe some flew over especially for it. Just looked at international tourist numbers and surprised Germany attracts more than the UK.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:27 am**

GogLais wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 9:54 pm I wonder how many Liverpool fans will sing along with GSTK.

They may share the opinion of the Celtic fans

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:31 am**

shaggy wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:24 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:07 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 3:56 pm

Footfall in Versailles, The Hermitage and the Taj Mahal don't appear to have suffered!

Your last line kinda contradicts your 1st point?
No it doesn't - people are visiting Buckingham Palace because it was the Queen's house, is Charles', was where a lot of recent drama happened. Almost no one is wanting to see where George VI stuttered or it's reasonably unexceptional architecture.
And the three places you mentioned make my point - all are stunning in a way the British royal residences aren't. And Versailles has a hell of a lot of world changing history that occurred there and the Hermitage is one of the world's greatest art galleries, that I'm very glad to have visited given I'm unlikely to get a chance to again in the near future.
London is currently rammed with American tourists. Must be a coincidence that Charlie is getting his crown on.

Fantastic logic. Just how many times do you think that stunt can be pulled off? Or maybe you have Charlie Voyage in mind?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:37 am**

GogLais wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 9:54 pm I wonder how many Liverpool fans will sing along with GSTK.

Ehh? Ehh? Ehhh?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:46 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 5:31 am
shaggy wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:24 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:07 pm
No it doesn't - people are visiting Buckingham Palace because it was the Queen's house, is Charles', was where a lot of recent drama happened. Almost no one is wanting to see where George VI stuttered or it's reasonably unexceptional architecture.
And the three places you mentioned make my point - all are stunning in a way the British royal residences aren't. And Versailles has a hell of a lot of world changing history that occurred there and the Hermitage is one of the world's greatest art galleries, that I'm very glad to have visited given I'm unlikely to get a chance to again in the near future.
London is currently rammed with American tourists. Must be a coincidence that Charlie is getting his crown on.
Fantastic logic. Just how many times do you think that stunt can be pulled off? Or maybe you have Charlie Voyage in mind?

Plenty. They are here for the castles too.

*fucking autocorrect

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 7:05 am**

Dry start so far for the SE but rain incoming! What with the last coronation also taking place on a cold and wet June day, maybe the mocker gods are giving a message...

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 7:06 am**

Anyone else having swan fur lunch today?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 7:44 am**

At least it's a free country

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 8:02 am**

Sandstorm wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 7:06 am Anyone else having swan fur lunch today?

I am planning on heading to the former Place de la Revolution to see where Louis XVI met his end.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 8:41 am**

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 8:02 am
Sandstorm wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 7:06 am Anyone else having swan fur lunch today?
I am planning on heading to the former Place de la Revolution to see where Louis XVI met his end.

Sausages for me.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 9:51 am**

Braverman will be wetting herself in delight that the Met are using the new law today

A witness has described to PA the moment the chief executive of campaign group Republic was arrested before a planned protest in Trafalgar Square.

Harry Stratton, 30, who is the group’s director, said he was with Graham Smith and nine other people when Mr Smith and five in the group were arrested at around 7am as they brought placards to the demonstration from nearby St Martin-in-the-Fields.

Mr Stratton told PA news agency: “They were carrying placards that were saying ‘not my King’ when around 20 police said ‘we are stopping you and we are searching you’.

“Graham and our volunteers asked why and they said ‘we will find that out’.

“After that they arrested them saying ‘we are seizing all these placards’ and Graham said ‘why are you arresting us?’”

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 10:10 am**

Fuck ‘em. Post that shit on Twitter instead of making a spectacle of yourself and trying to spoil it for everyone else who is there.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 10:54 am**

Who is Camilla staring at in the audience? Cos she sure as shit isn’t watching her husband!

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 10:57 am**

Sandstorm wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 10:10 am Fuck ‘em. Post that shit on Twitter instead of making a spectacle of yourself and trying to spoil it for everyone else who is there.

Because that's makes it reasonable behaviour by the Met?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 10:59 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 10:57 am
Sandstorm wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 10:10 am Fuck ‘em. Post that shit on Twitter instead of making a spectacle of yourself and trying to spoil it for everyone else who is there.
Because that's makes it reasonable behaviour by the Met?

Sure. Detain them early so that some copper doesn’t have to tackle a loon trying to stop the carriage later.

Or break up a fight between the two factions.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 11:00 am**

Sandstorm wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 10:10 am Fuck ‘em. Post that shit on Twitter instead of making a spectacle of yourself and trying to spoil it for everyone else who is there.

At this rate it won't be long before the only acceptable form of protest in public will be to stand around silently looking glum

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 11:05 am**

tabascoboy wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 11:00 am
Sandstorm wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 10:10 am Fuck ‘em. Post that shit on Twitter instead of making a spectacle of yourself and trying to spoil it for everyone else who is there.
At this rate it won't be long before the only acceptable form of protest in public will be to stand around silently looking glum

Rubbish. Today is a celebration of something good for a change. Protesting is for wankers.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 11:09 am**

They were clearly running out of things for the Lord to give him there

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 11:41 am**

Was he not supposed to put the ring on?

Or was it the case that his sausage fingers could not accommodate it.

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