NPR

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:58 am I see the Netflix series from last years 6N has just dropped.

Think the first episode has quite a lot of Scotland in it - have cleared the TV for a wee watch this evening

Tichtheid wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:23 pm

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:58 am I see the Netflix series from last years 6N has just dropped.

Think the first episode has quite a lot of Scotland in it - have cleared the TV for a wee watch this evening

I watched the first one earlier. It does have a lot of Scotland in it, I hope that’s not us done now.

The review in the Grauniad said that Scotland and Italy provided the most access to the Netflix crew, I don’t think it’s a spoiler to say that the reviewer was disappointed that there wasn’t more from the Italy coaching team.

Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:27 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:23 pm

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:58 am I see the Netflix series from last years 6N has just dropped.

Think the first episode has quite a lot of Scotland in it - have cleared the TV for a wee watch this evening

I watched the first one earlier. It does have a lot of Scotland in it, I hope that’s not us done now.

The review in the Grauniad said that Scotland and Italy provided the most access to the Netflix crew, I don’t think it’s a spoiler to say that the reviewer was disappointed that there wasn’t more from the Italy coaching team.

I wonder if some of the reviews aren't along the lines of 'I wanted to see more England / Ireland / France / Wales' and the negative ones are a bit of 'it's all Italy and Scotland, that's crap'.

Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:27 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:23 pm

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:58 am I see the Netflix series from last years 6N has just dropped.

Think the first episode has quite a lot of Scotland in it - have cleared the TV for a wee watch this evening

I watched the first one earlier. It does have a lot of Scotland in it, I hope that’s not us done now.

The review in the Grauniad said that Scotland and Italy provided the most access to the Netflix crew, I don’t think it’s a spoiler to say that the reviewer was disappointed that there wasn’t more from the Italy coaching team.

I wonder if some of the reviews aren't along the lines of 'I wanted to see more England / Ireland / France / Wales' and the negative ones are a bit of 'it's all Italy and Scotland, that's crap'.

Begbie wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:39 pm

Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:27 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:23 pm

I watched the first one earlier. It does have a lot of Scotland in it, I hope that’s not us done now.

The review in the Grauniad said that Scotland and Italy provided the most access to the Netflix crew, I don’t think it’s a spoiler to say that the reviewer was disappointed that there wasn’t more from the Italy coaching team.

I wonder if some of the reviews aren't along the lines of 'I wanted to see more England / Ireland / France / Wales' and the negative ones are a bit of 'it's all Italy and Scotland, that's crap'.

Finn's Messi comment has certainly got the social media dullards frothing. Humourless fuds.

inactionman wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:42 pm

Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:27 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:23 pm

I watched the first one earlier. It does have a lot of Scotland in it, I hope that’s not us done now.

The review in the Grauniad said that Scotland and Italy provided the most access to the Netflix crew, I don’t think it’s a spoiler to say that the reviewer was disappointed that there wasn’t more from the Italy coaching team.

I wonder if some of the reviews aren't along the lines of 'I wanted to see more England / Ireland / France / Wales' and the negative ones are a bit of 'it's all Italy and Scotland, that's crap'.

It's a crushing disappointment not to have the full hour of Borthwick.

Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:59 pm

Begbie wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:39 pm

Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:27 pm

I wonder if some of the reviews aren't along the lines of 'I wanted to see more England / Ireland / France / Wales' and the negative ones are a bit of 'it's all Italy and Scotland, that's crap'.

Finn's Messi comment has certainly got the social media dullards frothing. Humourless fuds.

Top quality fishing by Finn, brilliant

Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:27 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:23 pm

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:58 am I see the Netflix series from last years 6N has just dropped.

Think the first episode has quite a lot of Scotland in it - have cleared the TV for a wee watch this evening

I watched the first one earlier. It does have a lot of Scotland in it, I hope that’s not us done now.

The review in the Grauniad said that Scotland and Italy provided the most access to the Netflix crew, I don’t think it’s a spoiler to say that the reviewer was disappointed that there wasn’t more from the Italy coaching team.

I wonder if some of the reviews aren't along the lines of 'I wanted to see more England / Ireland / France / Wales' and the negative ones are a bit of 'it's all Italy and Scotland, that's crap'.

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:47 pm

Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:27 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:23 pm

I watched the first one earlier. It does have a lot of Scotland in it, I hope that’s not us done now.

The review in the Grauniad said that Scotland and Italy provided the most access to the Netflix crew, I don’t think it’s a spoiler to say that the reviewer was disappointed that there wasn’t more from the Italy coaching team.

I wonder if some of the reviews aren't along the lines of 'I wanted to see more England / Ireland / France / Wales' and the negative ones are a bit of 'it's all Italy and Scotland, that's crap'.

Yeah, it seems Ireland and England didn't give much access so it is what it is.

inactionman wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:53 pm

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:47 pm

Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:27 pm

I wonder if some of the reviews aren't along the lines of 'I wanted to see more England / Ireland / France / Wales' and the negative ones are a bit of 'it's all Italy and Scotland, that's crap'.

Yeah, it seems Ireland and England didn't give much access so it is what it is.

There's always a risk of too much Joe Marler and Ellis Genge


An hour with Ben Youngs would have been hilarious though.

https://matthampsonfoundation.org/produ ... ge-chuter/

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:57 pm

inactionman wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:53 pm

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:47 pm

Yeah, it seems Ireland and England didn't give much access so it is what it is.

There's always a risk of too much Joe Marler and Ellis Genge


An hour with Ben Youngs would have been hilarious though.

https://matthampsonfoundation.org/produ ... ge-chuter/

I can understand Borthwick not wanting the distraction going into a new team etc, but it seems the Irish were worried about giving stuff away. They do take themselves terribly seriously.

Thank god for McMessi to lighten things up

Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:03 pm

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:57 pm

inactionman wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:53 pm

There's always a risk of too much Joe Marler and Ellis Genge


An hour with Ben Youngs would have been hilarious though.

https://matthampsonfoundation.org/produ ... ge-chuter/

I can understand Borthwick not wanting the distraction going into a new team etc, but it seems the Irish were worried about giving stuff away. They do take themselves terribly seriously.

Thank god for McMessi to lighten things up

It means all those new fans in the USA will be Scotland Supporters. Someone get the shop at Murrayfield prepared for a massive upsurge in jerseys with 10 Russell on the back.

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:11 pm

Biffer wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 4:03 pm

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:57 pm



I can understand Borthwick not wanting the distraction going into a new team etc, but it seems the Irish were worried about giving stuff away. They do take themselves terribly seriously.

Thank god for McMessi to lighten things up

It means all those new fans in the USA will be Scotland Supporters. Someone get the shop at Murrayfield prepared for a massive upsurge in jerseys with 10 Russell on the back.

Growing the game always seems to fall, on our shoulders

inactionman wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:30 am

Slick wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:15 am

inactionman wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 10:59 am

Reviews of it ain't good, sadly, but the bits on Italy's coaching team sound amusing.

I've got a bit confused if it was reviews for this series, or another less ambitious one that tanked earlier, that are bad

The Grauniad isn't too complimentary:

Six Nations: Full Contact review – like a desperately dated rugby highlights package

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... ts-package

One man's milk is another man's poison and all that (and vice-versa), so perhaps best to take with pinch of salt.

Apparently pretty extensive coverage of the Scottish and Italian teams

Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:52 pm Giving it a go, but the producer's fact checking leaves a bit to be desired.



I know I'm probably not the target audience, but I'm finding the overly dramatic hamming up of the game footage complete with 'this bit's meant to be dramatic' music at every opportunity a bit wearing.

Begbie wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:49 pm Getting in early with predictions:

Oddspedia have odds from 15 bookies and have France (narrow), England and Scotland (narrow) as favourites. The first two I'll agree with, but Scotland's history of shitting the bed in Cardiff will continue. Last time we went there for game 1 as favourites we embarrassed ourselves, and I still have serious doubts about the mental strength of this team.

France by 8
England by 10
Wales by 6

Begbie wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:49 pm Getting in early with predictions:

Oddspedia have odds from 15 bookies and have France (narrow), England and Scotland (narrow) as favourites. The first two I'll agree with, but Scotland's history of shitting the bed in Cardiff will continue. Last time we went there for game 1 as favourites we embarrassed ourselves, and I still have serious doubts about the mental strength of this team.

France by 8
England by 10
Wales by 6

ASMO wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:25 pm

Begbie wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:49 pm Getting in early with predictions:

Oddspedia have odds from 15 bookies and have France (narrow), England and Scotland (narrow) as favourites. The first two I'll agree with, but Scotland's history of shitting the bed in Cardiff will continue. Last time we went there for game 1 as favourites we embarrassed ourselves, and I still have serious doubts about the mental strength of this team.

France by 8
England by 10
Wales by 6

The mockers gods will not accept this blatant attempt to bait them, you will lose to France, but will beat both England and Wales.

ASMO wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:25 pm

Begbie wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:49 pm Getting in early with predictions:

Oddspedia have odds from 15 bookies and have France (narrow), England and Scotland (narrow) as favourites. The first two I'll agree with, but Scotland's history of shitting the bed in Cardiff will continue. Last time we went there for game 1 as favourites we embarrassed ourselves, and I still have serious doubts about the mental strength of this team.

France by 8
England by 10
Wales by 6

The mockers gods will not accept this blatant attempt to bait them, you will lose to France, but will beat both England and Wales.

Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:20 am Right then, here we go. A few big things for me:

1) where are Ireland mentally after the world cup? How do they manage the post-Sexton era?
2) same question for France really. They blew a unique opportunity, is there a backlash? Will they be better playing outside of Paris?
3) are Scotland ever going to play to their potential? Beat France at Murrayfield and they could be in business
4) What level are England going to be at? It’s a very interesting draw if they can piece it together.
5) can Gatland pull off something remarkable with Wales?
6) what’s the real Italy - the one that could have won nearly every game they played last 6N, or the one that got humiliated at the RWC? If the former it’ll really add some danger to the tournament.

Overall I think this is a very open and very unpredictable tournament, and should be good fun to watch.

I watched two episodes of Full Contact last night, it’s fine. It’s designed to be binged watched by non-rugby fans, so not sure why people were expecting a deep dive. Russell and Genge come across really well. I did have a giggle when it was clear VdM didn’t know the words to Loch Lomond after their win at Twickenham, and Mrs PB decided she’d seen enough after I stood up out of my seat to criticise Ben Youngs’ kick that led to Scotland’s winning try.

Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:20 am Right then, here we go. A few big things for me:

1) where are Ireland mentally after the world cup? How do they manage the post-Sexton era?
2) same question for France really. They blew a unique opportunity, is there a backlash? Will they be better playing outside of Paris?
3) are Scotland ever going to play to their potential? Beat France at Murrayfield and they could be in business
4) What level are England going to be at? It’s a very interesting draw if they can piece it together.
5) can Gatland pull off something remarkable with Wales?
6) what’s the real Italy - the one that could have won nearly every game they played last 6N, or the one that got humiliated at the RWC? If the former it’ll really add some danger to the tournament.

Overall I think this is a very open and very unpredictable tournament, and should be good fun to watch.

I watched two episodes of Full Contact last night, it’s fine. It’s designed to be binged watched by non-rugby fans, so not sure why people were expecting a deep dive. Russell and Genge come across really well. I did have a giggle when it was clear VdM didn’t know the words to Loch Lomond after their win at Twickenham, and Mrs PB decided she’d seen enough after I stood up out of my seat to criticise Ben Youngs’ kick that led to Scotland’s winning try.

3) are Scotland ever going to play to their potential?

Slick wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:13 am
One observation, every team is missing key players and other 1st choices. Is this just bad luck or a wider issue with player burnout. It's a bit of a worry, although the 6N is one competition where it probably doesn't matter much in terms of interest, it's just fucking great anyway. Can't wait.

sockwithaticket wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:48 am

Slick wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:13 am
One observation, every team is missing key players and other 1st choices. Is this just bad luck or a wider issue with player burnout. It's a bit of a worry, although the 6N is one competition where it probably doesn't matter much in terms of interest, it's just fucking great anyway. Can't wait.

I don't get the impression that injuries are any worse than usual, no team ever comes into this competition without a few (and it's usually more than that). The biggest difference in a post-world cup tournament is additional absentees through retirement.

Slick wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:53 am What are everyone plans for viewing the games this weekend?

France v Ireland - an Irish mates house with all the kids for a pizza and rugby party (we have sourced a projector for the kids to watch Finding Nemo in a different room)

Italy v England - taking the kids to see the Edinburgh womens game at mini Murrayfield but have agreed to leave on 60 minutes so I can get back in time for kick off at home

Wales v Scotland - HKCJ and his wife coming over for the game and dinner. Can't wait.

Slick wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:54 am

sockwithaticket wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:48 am

Slick wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:13 am
One observation, every team is missing key players and other 1st choices. Is this just bad luck or a wider issue with player burnout. It's a bit of a worry, although the 6N is one competition where it probably doesn't matter much in terms of interest, it's just fucking great anyway. Can't wait.

I don't get the impression that injuries are any worse than usual, no team ever comes into this competition without a few (and it's usually more than that). The biggest difference in a post-world cup tournament is additional absentees through retirement.

Difficult to tell I guess but it certainly seems to me that there are more injury issues than usual. Haven't England lost quite a few in the last week or so?

Raggs wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:02 am

Slick wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:53 am What are everyone plans for viewing the games this weekend?

France v Ireland - an Irish mates house with all the kids for a pizza and rugby party (we have sourced a projector for the kids to watch Finding Nemo in a different room)

Italy v England - taking the kids to see the Edinburgh womens game at mini Murrayfield but have agreed to leave on 60 minutes so I can get back in time for kick off at home

Wales v Scotland - HKCJ and his wife coming over for the game and dinner. Can't wait.

Fra Ire, watching at home.

Ita Eng, not sure. Quite likely to be playing, and therefore unlikely to be able avoid the scoreline. Will watch on some sort of catchup after.

Wal Scot, probably miss a fair bit of it, but hopefully watch at home.

Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:36 am I’ve watched three so far, I’m quite enjoying it. The focus so far seems to be on certain players from each team, Finn, Negri, Genge, Porter, Dupont, plus input from their coaches.

Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:33 am

Raggs wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:02 am

Slick wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:53 am What are everyone plans for viewing the games this weekend?

France v Ireland - an Irish mates house with all the kids for a pizza and rugby party (we have sourced a projector for the kids to watch Finding Nemo in a different room)

Italy v England - taking the kids to see the Edinburgh womens game at mini Murrayfield but have agreed to leave on 60 minutes so I can get back in time for kick off at home

Wales v Scotland - HKCJ and his wife coming over for the game and dinner. Can't wait.

Fra Ire, watching at home.

Ita Eng, not sure. Quite likely to be playing, and therefore unlikely to be able avoid the scoreline. Will watch on some sort of catchup after.

Wal Scot, probably miss a fair bit of it, but hopefully watch at home.

Taking the old man to Rome as his 60th birthday present. Probably try and record the France Ireland game and watch after dinner back at the airbnb. Alternately, we are staying next to an Irish bar so could sack off the local cuisine.
Go to some of the Roman ruins in the morning then head to the stadium for the England game, last time I went to Rome they had a ‘Peroni fan village’ outside the ground so likely watch Wales v Scotland there before heading to a decent restaurant for the evening. Should be a cracker.

Slick wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:53 am What are everyone plans for viewing the games this weekend?

France v Ireland - an Irish mates house with all the kids for a pizza and rugby party (we have sourced a projector for the kids to watch Finding Nemo in a different room)

Italy v England - taking the kids to see the Edinburgh womens game at mini Murrayfield but have agreed to leave on 60 minutes so I can get back in time for kick off at home

Wales v Scotland - HKCJ and his wife coming over for the game and dinner. Can't wait.

Tichtheid wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:36 am I’ve watched three so far, I’m quite enjoying it. The focus so far seems to be on certain players from each team, Finn, Negri, Genge, Porter, Dupont, plus input from their coaches.