Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:50 am
France by 3.... against the clock.
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Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:52 am
Scotland and Ireland probably tomorrow
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:05 pm
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Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:21 pm
I don't think it matters who Scotland pick. There is a reason Ireland are currently ranked 2 in the world and Scotland are 6 - these rankings don't lie, generally speaking. We haven't had Ireland's number since the game went pro and 5 Nations turned into 6.
If Tuipulotu were fit then I genuinely wouldn't take any of their backs over ours bar JG-P. Up front is different story and that is where we suffer. Our strengths are in our backs and Ireland have the most parsimonious defence - I think they conceded the fewest tries in the last two 6Ns.
We can't bully teams so we try to play around them and Ireland's organisation is superb, so is their mindset, they will be going to Edinburgh with great confidence that they can continue their run against us.
Still, since this is our year I'm going for Scotland by at least a score.
If Tuipulotu were fit then I genuinely wouldn't take any of their backs over ours bar JG-P. Up front is different story and that is where we suffer. Our strengths are in our backs and Ireland have the most parsimonious defence - I think they conceded the fewest tries in the last two 6Ns.
We can't bully teams so we try to play around them and Ireland's organisation is superb, so is their mindset, they will be going to Edinburgh with great confidence that they can continue their run against us.
Still, since this is our year I'm going for Scotland by at least a score.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:43 pm
Very surprised Prendergast is starting.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:54 pm
Tom Jordan in at 12! This is going to be good fun.
Sutherland
Cherry
ZFagerson
Gilchrist
Gray
MFagerson
Darge
Dempsey
White
Russell
VdMerwe
Jordan
Jones
Graham
Kinghorn
Bench:
Ashman
Schoeman
Hurd
Skinner
Brown
Ritchie
Dobie
Macdowall
Sutherland
Cherry
ZFagerson
Gilchrist
Gray
MFagerson
Darge
Dempsey
White
Russell
VdMerwe
Jordan
Jones
Graham
Kinghorn
Bench:
Ashman
Schoeman
Hurd
Skinner
Brown
Ritchie
Dobie
Macdowall
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:36 pm
That was chefs kiss by the Italy OH !
You won't see a better kick pass
You won't see a better kick pass
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:36 pm
Italy u20s leading 8-0 lovely cross field kick for the try in the corner
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:46 pm
That try was the kick up the arse Wales needed, they've been much more in it since, & now 8 - 5 with a long missed pass to the wing getting Wales on the scoreboard
[Edit] Match is on S4C for anyone interested.
[Edit] Match is on S4C for anyone interested.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:54 pm
All Wales now, going in with your classic catch & drive for a try.
8 - 10
8 - 10
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:02 pm
Italy bring the power to batter Wales & get a try under the sticks
15 - 10 HT
15 - 10 HT
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:04 pm
A soggy night in Bath; at least the pitch looks okay
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:10 pm
England FB paying the price of trying to be a c**t by leading with the shoulder in the "tackle"
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:14 pm
That was very nice by England, good hands, good continuity & the forwards arrive to close the deal.
7 - 0
7 - 0
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:34 pm
England playing it smart; they need to build a decent lead because they can't hope to match the French bench for the last 20 mins
17 - 3
17 - 3
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:52 pm
Yeah. And why was that not looked at for a card?fishfoodie wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:10 pm England FB paying the price of trying to be a c**t by leading with the shoulder in the "tackle"
Have to assume this lad is injured
https://www.stadetoulousain.fr/effectif ... n-llaveria
because he was superb last week and Motassi is nowhere in his class.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:52 pm
17 - 10 HT in Bath & 18 - 17 in Treviso with 12 mins to go.
Two tight finishes to come !!
Two tight finishes to come !!
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:55 pm
French seemed to have put some doubt in the English lineout with 2 steals the yellow ended up not costing them much.fishfoodie wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:52 pm 17 - 10 HT in Bath & 18 - 17 in Treviso with 12 mins to go.
Two tight finishes to come !!
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:58 pm
Too many dim penalties. Twice for being in front of the kicker is retarded.laurent wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:55 pmFrench seemed to have put some doubt in the English lineout with 2 steals the yellow ended up not costing them much.fishfoodie wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:52 pm 17 - 10 HT in Bath & 18 - 17 in Treviso with 12 mins to go.
Two tight finishes to come !!
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:06 pm
How often do they get pinged for it the rest of the year ?Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:58 pmToo many dim penalties. Twice for being in front of the kicker is retarded.laurent wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:55 pmFrench seemed to have put some doubt in the English lineout with 2 steals the yellow ended up not costing them much.fishfoodie wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:52 pm 17 - 10 HT in Bath & 18 - 17 in Treviso with 12 mins to go.
Two tight finishes to come !!
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:13 pm
OMG 
WALES WIN; WALES WIN !!!!!!!
18 - 20 FT
As one of the Wales players said at the final whistle, "Farken' Hell'
A mad last 5+ minutes with mistakes by both sides, & a missed peno for Italy at the death giving Wales a well deserved win.
WALES WIN; WALES WIN !!!!!!!
18 - 20 FT
As one of the Wales players said at the final whistle, "Farken' Hell'
A mad last 5+ minutes with mistakes by both sides, & a missed peno for Italy at the death giving Wales a well deserved win.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:16 pm
I'm sure the senior team will also find a way to lose tomorrow
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:40 pm
One of the things I used to love about the U20s was the individual brilliance hadn't been coached out of them yet.
That doesn't seem to be the case anymore and it's very much about power, possession and the percentage plays.
That doesn't seem to be the case anymore and it's very much about power, possession and the percentage plays.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:48 pm
Good to see England's prioritisation of their youth structures bear fruit against the mercenary French
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:56 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:48 pm Good to see England's prioritisation of their youth structures bear fruit against the mercenary French
If Torque was watching that last five minutes he will have put a foot through the monitor. The English forwards were flinging themselves over the ball time and again, not one attempt to remain on their feet. When they eventually forced an error because of this they got the break away score.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:57 pm
Amazing reffingTichtheid wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:56 pmJM2K6 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:48 pm Good to see England's prioritisation of their youth structures bear fruit against the mercenary French
If Torque was watching that last five minutes he will have put a foot through the monitor. The English forwards were flinging themselves over the ball time and again, not one attempt to remain on their feet. When they eventually forced an error because of this they got the break away score.
the french could not buy a shag in a brothel though...
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:58 pm
You've even managed to find a SH who doesn't insist on counting to ten before he passes; so he may get a chance in the senior team in 8 or 9 years timeJM2K6 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:48 pm Good to see England's prioritisation of their youth structures bear fruit against the mercenary French
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:13 pm
Bless the U20s, a shining beacon of hope during the senior team's woes.
Torq seems to be about 5 seconds from doing that at all times tbh.Tichtheid wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:56 pmJM2K6 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:48 pm Good to see England's prioritisation of their youth structures bear fruit against the mercenary French
If Torque was watching that last five minutes he will have put a foot through the monitor. The English forwards were flinging themselves over the ball time and again, not one attempt to remain on their feet. When they eventually forced an error because of this they got the break away score.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:35 pm
Something happens to these English lads between the age of 19/20 and 21-23. They just stop developing. Nothing wrong at 19/20 then shite*.
* The ones that the SRU will now inevitably poach seem to do ok though.
* The ones that the SRU will now inevitably poach seem to do ok though.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:07 pm
Occasionally we get young lads like Pollock who are so undeniably good that their clubs give them the keys to the kingdom at a young age, but there are plenty who just disappear at Prem level when they've been excelling as U20s. It shouldn't be so big a gap and if it is then clubs need to get better at bridging it.
Thinking of a position of low depth like second row, why is Alex Groves now 24 and essentially a ghost? Nominally he's signed up at Sale, but it's practically impossible to find any appearance info on him. Lewis Chessum has 12 appearances for Tigers since 2022 and now at 21 he's being loaned to a Japenese team. That's a cool experience for him to have, so maybe he'd have gone anyway, but why is it so hard for him to get game time here?
There are all sorts of factors that go into whether players kick on, but we see time and time again, whole swathes of names from the U20s never really kick on to Premiership level, let alone anything higher.
Thinking of a position of low depth like second row, why is Alex Groves now 24 and essentially a ghost? Nominally he's signed up at Sale, but it's practically impossible to find any appearance info on him. Lewis Chessum has 12 appearances for Tigers since 2022 and now at 21 he's being loaned to a Japenese team. That's a cool experience for him to have, so maybe he'd have gone anyway, but why is it so hard for him to get game time here?
There are all sorts of factors that go into whether players kick on, but we see time and time again, whole swathes of names from the U20s never really kick on to Premiership level, let alone anything higher.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:18 pm
As Ticht says; "coaching" !Kawazaki wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:35 pm Something happens to these English lads between the age of 19/20 and 21-23. They just stop developing. Nothing wrong at 19/20 then shite*.
* The ones that the SRU will now inevitably poach seem to do ok though.
Lads stop doing what their instincts tell them to do, & start thinking about what the coach wants them to do.
If the coach gives them their head & tells them to look around & play what's in front of them, then that's good; if they try to bind them to a half dozen set plays that are approved, then it's a recipe for dogshit.
These are young guys who want to get picked, & too often that means doing what the coaches want, as opposed to what is the best play.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:31 pm
Good Quins boy who's already making the case for the subs bench more regularly this season. Very excited about himfishfoodie wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:58 pmYou've even managed to find a SH who doesn't insist on counting to ten before he passes; so he may get a chance in the senior team in 8 or 9 years timeJM2K6 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:48 pm Good to see England's prioritisation of their youth structures bear fruit against the mercenary French
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:28 am
I think that’s a bit simplistic to be honest. Ireland must be the most “coached” side in the world with a style of play ingrained from the youngsters through the provinces, but have had great successfishfoodie wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:18 pmAs Ticht says; "coaching" !Kawazaki wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:35 pm Something happens to these English lads between the age of 19/20 and 21-23. They just stop developing. Nothing wrong at 19/20 then shite*.
* The ones that the SRU will now inevitably poach seem to do ok though.
Lads stop doing what their instincts tell them to do, & start thinking about what the coach wants them to do.
If the coach gives them their head & tells them to look around & play what's in front of them, then that's good; if they try to bind them to a half dozen set plays that are approved, then it's a recipe for dogshit.
These are young guys who want to get picked, & too often that means doing what the coaches want, as opposed to what is the best play.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:29 am
That would be embarrassing.sturginho wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:16 pm I'm sure the senior team will also find a way to lose tomorrow
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 8:28 am
I’m increasingly feeling this is the casesturginho wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:16 pm I'm sure the senior team will also find a way to lose tomorrow
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 8:30 am
Nah, Italy are a decent team. Should have more than enough to put Wales away again.sturginho wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:16 pm I'm sure the senior team will also find a way to lose tomorrow
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 8:45 am
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:08 am
There’s a big difference between age group and playing against the bigger boys. I’m always reminded of that massive unit at Wasps who came through England age group with a bit of fanfare, got his head stuffed up his arse by someone as ordinary as Alex Waller and was never seen again.sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:07 pm Occasionally we get young lads like Pollock who are so undeniably good that their clubs give them the keys to the kingdom at a young age, but there are plenty who just disappear at Prem level when they've been excelling as U20s. It shouldn't be so big a gap and if it is then clubs need to get better at bridging it.
Thinking of a position of low depth like second row, why is Alex Groves now 24 and essentially a ghost? Nominally he's signed up at Sale, but it's practically impossible to find any appearance info on him. Lewis Chessum has 12 appearances for Tigers since 2022 and now at 21 he's being loaned to a Japenese team. That's a cool experience for him to have, so maybe he'd have gone anyway, but why is it so hard for him to get game time here?
There are all sorts of factors that go into whether players kick on, but we see time and time again, whole swathes of names from the U20s never really kick on to Premiership level, let alone anything higher.
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:22 am
We say this, and I hope it’s true, but they did get humped by 100 points 18 months ago
Re: 2025 6N thread
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:25 am
Alex Groves played for Sale in the Prem Cup last night. (they lost at home to Doncaster!!)sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:07 pm Occasionally we get young lads like Pollock who are so undeniably good that their clubs give them the keys to the kingdom at a young age, but there are plenty who just disappear at Prem level when they've been excelling as U20s. It shouldn't be so big a gap and if it is then clubs need to get better at bridging it.
Thinking of a position of low depth like second row, why is Alex Groves now 24 and essentially a ghost? Nominally he's signed up at Sale, but it's practically impossible to find any appearance info on him. Lewis Chessum has 12 appearances for Tigers since 2022 and now at 21 he's being loaned to a Japenese team. That's a cool experience for him to have, so maybe he'd have gone anyway, but why is it so hard for him to get game time here?
There are all sorts of factors that go into whether players kick on, but we see time and time again, whole swathes of names from the U20s never really kick on to Premiership level, let alone anything higher.
He nearly died of an aneurism and had open heart surgery 12 months ago.
Looks a bit out of condition but put in a shift
Thought Chessum junior was recovering from a nasty neck injury and the loan to Japan was part of his rehab? He really needs to fill out a bhit like his brother as he still looks lightweight for his size