Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:42 am
So, Snake Island was struck again with a Pantsir allegedly destroyed. And now
A place where escape goats go to play
https://www.notplanetrugby.com/
Russia accuses Norway of Arctic blockade and threatens reprisals
Moscow accused Norway on Wednesday of blocking the transit of goods to Russians living in the Norwegian Arctic archipelago of Svalbard and threatened Oslo with retaliation.
"We demanded that the Norwegian side resolve this issue as soon as possible," Russia's foreign ministry diplomacy said in a statement, announcing that the Norwegian chargé d'affaires in Moscow had been summoned.
"We stressed that unfriendly actions towards Russia lead to retaliatory measures," it added.
Russia claims that Norway blocked supplies of equipment and food at the Storskog land border crossing that were to be loaded onto a ship bound for Svalbard for Russian miners in the archipelago.
According to Sergei Gushkin, the Russian consul on the Arctic archipelago, the cargo consisted of 20 tonnes of goods, including seven tonnes of foodstuffs, spare parts and essential equipment to prepare for the winter.
Norway is blocking the goods in the application of European sanctions adopted against Russia because of its war in Ukraine, the diplomat said.
"I think Norway has not thought through joining the EU sanctions," he added.
Gushkin said Russia was exploring alternative supply routes, including from Europe or by sea from the Russian city of Murmansk.
Where is Svalbard?
Svalbard, a thousand kilometres from the North Pole, is twice the size of Belgium and is sometimes referred to as NATO's "Achilles heel in the Arctic".
A 1920 Paris treaty recognises Norway's sovereignty over Svalbard but also guarantees that 46 other signatory states — including Russia — are free to exploit the natural resources there "on a perfectly equal footing".
For decades, Russia and the former USSR has been mining coal in these territories, which are inhabited by fewer than 3,000 people of some 50 nationalities.
The deputy chairman of the Russian Federation Council, Konstantin Kossachev, has accused Oslo of violating the Treaty of Paris.
"The Norwegian authorities are trying to ensure that Russian minors are left without food, which is in itself amoral. This violates human rights, and the principles of humanism," he wrote on Telegram.
The Russian consul, however, denied that there was any risk of food shortages.
Norway hit by cyberattacks
On Wednesday, Norwegian authorities also reported that a cyberattack had temporarily knocked out public and private websites.
Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre said that to his knowledge the attack “has not caused any significant damage.”
The distributed-denial-of-service (DDOS) attack targeted a secure national data network, the Norwegian National Security Authority said (NSM). It forced several public and private websites to temporarily suspend their online services.
A criminal pro-Russian group seems to be behind the attacks, NSM head Sofie Nystrøm said.
She added that the attacks “give the impression that we are a piece in the current political situation in Europe.”
The incident came two days after a similar attack temporarily knocked out public and private websites in Lithuania, with a pro-Moscow hacker group reportedly claiming responsibility.
That incident after Russian officials threatened to retaliate because Lithuania restricted the transit of sanctioned goods to the exclave of Kaliningrad.
https://www.euronews.com/2022/06/29/rus ... -reprisals
I don't believe there's any mechanism to kick a permanent member off the security, which just re-emphasises just what a joke the UN is.tabascoboy wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:16 am Russians destroy another high value military target. Needs to be declared a terrorist state and kicked out of the UN Security Council
There are good bits in the UN, but the security council is a waste of time.Hellraiser wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:37 amI don't believe there's any mechanism to kick a permanent member off the security, which just re-emphasises just what a joke the UN is.tabascoboy wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:16 am Russians destroy another high value military target. Needs to be declared a terrorist state and kicked out of the UN Security Council
It's been a bit of a toothless tiger in many ways... but the UN was formed out of a desire to avoid war, not indulge it. In that respect, keeping the powerful military nations in and talking to each other is probably preferable to having them outside and fighting.fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:44 amThere are good bits in the UN, but the security council is a waste of time.Hellraiser wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:37 am
I don't believe there's any mechanism to kick a permanent member off the security, which just re-emphasises just what a joke the UN is.
It’s been a component part of the international order that’s prevented the major blocks from going to war with each other for nearly eighty years. Far from perfect, but it’s not there to do your will.
Artillery is useless without ammo.tabascoboy wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:55 am UA forces definitely seem to be focusing on ammo and fuel depots/storage for long range attacks; Popasna, Makiivka and that old favourite Chornobaivka Airport all sites of explosions and loads of smoke this morning.
Not much would survive this, God knows what they were keeping in there. Big badda boom...Hellraiser wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:57 amArtillery is useless without ammo.tabascoboy wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:55 am UA forces definitely seem to be focusing on ammo and fuel depots/storage for long range attacks; Popasna, Makiivka and that old favourite Chornobaivka Airport all sites of explosions and loads of smoke this morning.
Finally. They need more. They need to be able to tear the Russian logistics chain to pieces.
I don't think they need too many more; because they're using them smartly.TheFrog wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:25 pm Finally. They need more. They need to be able to tear the Russian logistics chain to pieces.
Long term consequences could be severe for Europe if we don't box Putin back in his box. That being said, even with a Ukrainian victory, there will be painful long term consequences for Europe. The world has changed, there is a monster on our doors and there will be tensions at least for as long as Putin is in power and may be more depending on his successors.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:02 pm I wonder how much wishful thinking there is out there about the short term consequences of all this. Russia keeps taking ground and looksike they will own much of Eastern Ukraine. Was it worth it? They can spin it was without much effort. Long term consequences. Well who knows but the seal is broken and I would fear for the next few generations
Not quite sure where you are going with this in that you are discussing the situation like Russia has any chance to hold the territories it has captured. Russia can't hold these territories. It's a dream that's being pushed by Russian propaganda with their Russian education, banking system and IT infrastructure they're trying to implement.EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:02 pm I wonder how much wishful thinking there is out there about the short term consequences of all this. Russia keeps taking ground and looksike they will own much of Eastern Ukraine. Was it worth it? They can spin it was without much effort. Long term consequences. Well who knows but the seal is broken and I would fear for the next few generations
That has to be the tactic now for Ukraine. Beyond resisting on the front lines, they have to make life impossible for the Russians in occupied territory as well as sabotaging logistics.