COVID-19 in SOUTH AFRICA

[assfly]

So you agree with me about the online schooling?

Curro is making a killing in SA.

I think I answered your question earlier. Primary needs to be in person, secondary can work as part of a blended model. There is no replacement for a classroom environment and a good teacher.

[Blake]

Please explain the problem to me because I don't get it. So you drop your kid off at school at 07:30 and they sit around until school officially opens at 08:30? Nobody is saying to have to drop your kid off at 08:25, travel back in time and arrive at work at 08:00.

I recall my parents having to drop me off at 07:00 as a kid (to dodge their commute traffic) and school only starting at 08:00. It gave me an hour to do the homework I didn't do the day before, or play soccer with the other kids that were also early. Please educate me.

Just to come back to this. The simple answer is times have changed. My parents sometimes dropped me off an hour early and sometimes picked me up two hours late, but back then I would walk 5 km alone to the shops without fear. Our parents actually pushed us to be more free and independent. You got home from school and spend probably an hour on your homework, grabbed something to eat and then got told to get the fok out the house and make sure to be back for supper. There's no way in hell I can allow any of that with my daughters now.

Sure, times have changed, but Gert van Rooyen was active in 1988...before I even went to primary school. The evils have always been there. We are just more aware of them now and are more protective, all while living in a day and age where our kids can have smartphones with panic button apps and smartwatches with GPS tracking.

One sometimes has to wonder what effect this lack of independence is having on the last 2 generations. All parents will say that the risk outweighs the benefit, but we are notoriously bad at making such calculations, and even more-so when our kids are involved.

[Sards]

With pleasure. There is no there to look after the children. Most teacher arrive 10 minutes before the first bell. You want me to drop my children of with no supervision?

Depends on how old the kids are I suppose.

My folks used to have an arrangement with 4 other parents who would take turns to chaperone and watch us until the school gates opened. My mom had the Wednesday morning shift, so she usually was only able to leave at 08:00 on Wednesdays, even though we were there already from 06:45.

By the time I was in Highschool this wasn't needed anymore, so I either waited on my own at the gate until some friends arrived to wait with me or rode my bicycle to school if I didn't want to wake up early and didn't have a massive bag of cricket kit to lug around.

Not saying that its ideal, just saying that plans can we made to work around the inconveniences. Boer maak 'n plan.

For sure we will make a plan, I just think the schools are finding it very easy to shift everything back to the parents.

Exactly...

I feel dirty agreeing with handyman but the truth is that most of the posters here with younger kids feel that the schools have let parents and children down .... including teachers ..
We would get worksheets and have to spend a minimum of an hour each day per kid...then they would go to school and we would ask them about their day and they would say they watched movies because they were ahead of the other kids....ffs....and that was only 2 days at school a week...with us handling the other 3...
Now if they made everything online we wouldn't have to deal with teachers bitching about how overworked they are, and how they have to deal with our children....

Ok things have definitely changed...teachers are not the same.

I am glad we have moved beyond personal insults and righteous indignation

[Sandstorm]

Please explain the problem to me because I don't get it. So you drop your kid off at school at 07:30 and they sit around until school officially opens at 08:30? Nobody is saying to have to drop your kid off at 08:25, travel back in time and arrive at work at 08:00.

I recall my parents having to drop me off at 07:00 as a kid (to dodge their commute traffic) and school only starting at 08:00. It gave me an hour to do the homework I didn't do the day before, or play soccer with the other kids that were also early. Please educate me.

Just to come back to this. The simple answer is times have changed. My parents sometimes dropped me off an hour early and sometimes picked me up two hours late, but back then I would walk 5 km alone to the shops without fear. Our parents actually pushed us to be more free and independent. You got home from school and spend probably an hour on your homework, grabbed something to eat and then got told to get the fok out the house and make sure to be back for supper. There's no way in hell I can allow any of that with my daughters now.

Sounds like the teachers are lazy.

[handyman]

It's a tough situation for the schools, because as employees figured out that can work from home, I think a lot of children are going to move to homeschooling.

[FalseBayFC]

New cases coming down nicely now. Hope school starting doesn't trigger a resurgence. Down to 1300 from a peak of over 21k per day.

[average joe]

Please explain the problem to me because I don't get it. So you drop your kid off at school at 07:30 and they sit around until school officially opens at 08:30? Nobody is saying to have to drop your kid off at 08:25, travel back in time and arrive at work at 08:00.

I recall my parents having to drop me off at 07:00 as a kid (to dodge their commute traffic) and school only starting at 08:00. It gave me an hour to do the homework I didn't do the day before, or play soccer with the other kids that were also early. Please educate me.

Just to come back to this. The simple answer is times have changed. My parents sometimes dropped me off an hour early and sometimes picked me up two hours late, but back then I would walk 5 km alone to the shops without fear. Our parents actually pushed us to be more free and independent. You got home from school and spend probably an hour on your homework, grabbed something to eat and then got told to get the fok out the house and make sure to be back for supper. There's no way in hell I can allow any of that with my daughters now.

Sure, times have changed, but Gert van Rooyen was active in 1988...before I even went to primary school. The evils have always been there. We are just more aware of them now and are more protective, all while living in a day and age where our kids can have smartphones with panic button apps and smartwatches with GPS tracking.

One sometimes has to wonder what effect this lack of independence is having on the last 2 generations. All parents will say that the risk outweighs the benefit, but we are notoriously bad at making such calculations, and even more-so when our kids are involved.

It's telling how you can only think of one name from back then. Today you have syndicates abducting kids in broad daylight right in front of their parents and selling them as sex slaves. We are living in a time where 7 year old girls gets raped in the Dross toilet. Tracking devices means fokol. You think these abductors are all stupid, uneducated degenerates? You think they don't know about phones and smart watches? By the time you've noticed they've discarded anything that can be tracked. I know it sounds far fetched and movie like to most of us but it happens.

I agree with you though this lack of freedom is no good and I feel sad knowing my kids will probably never experience it.

[Sards]

I agree with you though this lack of freedom is no good and I feel sad knowing my kids will probably never experience it.

I feel desperately sorry for the kids...although I wouldn't blame them for enjoying so much holiday at home....

I got a call from my eldest yesterday just before 2pm...." Dad , please come home and take us to the beach..."
These poor kids have had their entire December holidays destroyed by this virus....its a huge time in the kids lives....they look forward to all those fun things to do in summer holidays .... and here they were locked up at home ..

So I dashed off home and his mate was there and they were all in their wetsuits already and ready to rock and roll....

We are very fortunate....we are a few minutes from a very diverse stretch of beach...so its always fun to drive from our side to Melkbos along the beach...windows open , music blaring....just the boys......special moments...and the waves were pumping yesteray...made for some great entertainment watching these kids get blasted into the sandbanks....waves were hollow.....

[average joe]

I agree with you though this lack of freedom is no good and I feel sad knowing my kids will probably never experience it.

I feel desperately sorry for the kids...although I wouldn't blame them for enjoying so much holiday at home....

I got a call from my eldest yesterday just before 2pm...." Dad , please come home and take us to the beach..."
These poor kids have had their entire December holidays destroyed by this virus....its a huge time in the kids lives....they look forward to all those fun things to do in summer holidays .... and here they were locked up at home ..

So I dashed off home and his mate was there and they were all in their wetsuits already and ready to rock and roll....

We are very fortunate....we are a few minutes from a very diverse stretch of beach...so its always fun to drive from our side to Melkbos along the beach...windows open , music blaring....just the boys......special moments...and the waves were pumping yesteray...made for some great entertainment watching these kids get blasted into the sandbanks....waves were hollow.....

Fok that shit, when we were kids we would just get on our bikes and go. Fok, I remember when my parents took us on holiday, we'll be up at sunrise and walk to the beach by ourselves. Our parents would only join us at 11h00. You knew " as jy vir pappa voor 9 uur waker maak brand jou gat" Families went on holiday to rest back then, they didn't just take leave so the kids could go on holiday. If I take my family on holiday now I come back more tired than what I was when I was at work.

[FalseBayFC]

Just to come back to this. The simple answer is times have changed. My parents sometimes dropped me off an hour early and sometimes picked me up two hours late, but back then I would walk 5 km alone to the shops without fear. Our parents actually pushed us to be more free and independent. You got home from school and spend probably an hour on your homework, grabbed something to eat and then got told to get the fok out the house and make sure to be back for supper. There's no way in hell I can allow any of that with my daughters now.

Sure, times have changed, but Gert van Rooyen was active in 1988...before I even went to primary school. The evils have always been there. We are just more aware of them now and are more protective, all while living in a day and age where our kids can have smartphones with panic button apps and smartwatches with GPS tracking.

One sometimes has to wonder what effect this lack of independence is having on the last 2 generations. All parents will say that the risk outweighs the benefit, but we are notoriously bad at making such calculations, and even more-so when our kids are involved.

It's telling how you can only think of one name from back then. Today you have syndicates abducting kids in broad daylight right in front of their parents and selling them as sex slaves. We are living in a time where 7 year old girls gets raped in the Dross toilet. Tracking devices means fokol. You think these abductors are all stupid, uneducated degenerates? You think they don't know about phones and smart watches? By the time you've noticed they've discarded anything that can be tracked. I know it sounds far fetched and movie like to most of us but it happens.

I agree with you though this lack of freedom is no good and I feel sad knowing my kids will probably never experience it.

We often fall into this trap of thinking we are living in times which are so much worse than the past. I doubt child abuse or abduction has increased or worsened. It just receives more airtime on social media. Gert van Rooyen and Joey Haarhof are a case in point. I've discussed this with my late father-in-law who was a GP near Scottburgh, he's treated hundreds of child rape victims over the years. If the perps got caught they would pay hush money. Many of these perps were white farmers and their sons.

[sorCrer]

Please explain the problem to me because I don't get it. So you drop your kid off at school at 07:30 and they sit around until school officially opens at 08:30? Nobody is saying to have to drop your kid off at 08:25, travel back in time and arrive at work at 08:00.

I recall my parents having to drop me off at 07:00 as a kid (to dodge their commute traffic) and school only starting at 08:00. It gave me an hour to do the homework I didn't do the day before, or play soccer with the other kids that were also early. Please educate me.

Just to come back to this. The simple answer is times have changed. My parents sometimes dropped me off an hour early and sometimes picked me up two hours late, but back then I would walk 5 km alone to the shops without fear. Our parents actually pushed us to be more free and independent. You got home from school and spend probably an hour on your homework, grabbed something to eat and then got told to get the fok out the house and make sure to be back for supper. There's no way in hell I can allow any of that with my daughters now.

And fokof you did before being roped into some awful kak like mowing the lawn or cleaning the house. We would be on our bikes and in the veld making fires and hunting birds, traps, finding shit at rubbish dumps, building go karts. Up to the school fields for a kick around or touch. Every day there was something new to do.

[assfly]

Kids these days, huh

[FalseBayFC]

If you go around any township or rural area you will see kids doing just that. Soccer, herding, cricket, rugby etc. Unfortunately in these areas they will be exposed to drugs, predators and bad things. Those of us with the means can and should be providing a controlled safe environment for our kids. Look at any of the primates like vervets and baboons. They are continually checking out their environment for predators and protecting their young. Their are and always have been human predators. Its the parents biological imperative to ensure the safety of their young.

[handyman]

I agree with you though this lack of freedom is no good and I feel sad knowing my kids will probably never experience it.

I feel desperately sorry for the kids...although I wouldn't blame them for enjoying so much holiday at home....

I got a call from my eldest yesterday just before 2pm...." Dad , please come home and take us to the beach..."
These poor kids have had their entire December holidays destroyed by this virus....its a huge time in the kids lives....they look forward to all those fun things to do in summer holidays .... and here they were locked up at home ..

So I dashed off home and his mate was there and they were all in their wetsuits already and ready to rock and roll....

We are very fortunate....we are a few minutes from a very diverse stretch of beach...so its always fun to drive from our side to Melkbos along the beach...windows open , music blaring....just the boys......special moments...and the waves were pumping yesteray...made for some great entertainment watching these kids get blasted into the sandbanks....waves were hollow.....

Fok that shit, when we were kids we would just get on our bikes and go. Fok, I remember when my parents took us on holiday, we'll be up at sunrise and walk to the beach by ourselves. Our parents would only join us at 11h00. You knew " as jy vir pappa voor 9 uur waker maak brand jou gat" Families went on holiday to rest back then, they didn't just take leave so the kids could go on holiday. If I take my family on holiday now I come back more tired than what I was when I was at work.

Enjoyed this post, exactly how it was when I was a kid. These days when we go on holiday, mornings and afternoons are to entertain the kids. By 7, the kids are exhausted, and the wife and I can have a nice and relaxing evening in front of the braai.

[FalseBayFC]

Kids are never 100 % safe when unsupervised.

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south- ... cape-town/

[MungoMan]

Please explain the problem to me because I don't get it. So you drop your kid off at school at 07:30 and they sit around until school officially opens at 08:30? Nobody is saying to have to drop your kid off at 08:25, travel back in time and arrive at work at 08:00.

I recall my parents having to drop me off at 07:00 as a kid (to dodge their commute traffic) and school only starting at 08:00. It gave me an hour to do the homework I didn't do the day before, or play soccer with the other kids that were also early. Please educate me.

Just to come back to this. The simple answer is times have changed. My parents sometimes dropped me off an hour early and sometimes picked me up two hours late, but back then I would walk 5 km alone to the shops without fear. Our parents actually pushed us to be more free and independent. You got home from school and spend probably an hour on your homework, grabbed something to eat and then got told to get the fok out the house and make sure to be back for supper. There's no way in hell I can allow any of that with my daughters now.

And fokof you did before being roped into some awful kak like mowing the lawn or cleaning the house. We would be on our bikes and in the veld making fires and hunting birds, traps, finding shit at rubbish dumps, building go karts. Up to the school fields for a kick around or touch. Every day there was something new to do.

Sounds a great deal like my childhood. Some words are different but the song remains the same. Leave just after breakfast, get home before it's too dark to see.

[average joe]

It's hard putting a value on child rape cases back then, especially when it was culturally acceptable for a man with an itch to just go down to the river where the girls was fetching water to put pipe, or when a man wanted to marry a certain girl who refused him, would just get his uncles and cousins to abduct her, or when a young married guy got told by his uncles to go to town so his dad can "test" the new bride.

[Sards]

Please explain the problem to me because I don't get it. So you drop your kid off at school at 07:30 and they sit around until school officially opens at 08:30? Nobody is saying to have to drop your kid off at 08:25, travel back in time and arrive at work at 08:00.

I recall my parents having to drop me off at 07:00 as a kid (to dodge their commute traffic) and school only starting at 08:00. It gave me an hour to do the homework I didn't do the day before, or play soccer with the other kids that were also early. Please educate me.

Just to come back to this. The simple answer is times have changed. My parents sometimes dropped me off an hour early and sometimes picked me up two hours late, but back then I would walk 5 km alone to the shops without fear. Our parents actually pushed us to be more free and independent. You got home from school and spend probably an hour on your homework, grabbed something to eat and then got told to get the fok out the house and make sure to be back for supper. There's no way in hell I can allow any of that with my daughters now.

And fokof you did before being roped into some awful kak like mowing the lawn or cleaning the house. We would be on our bikes and in the veld making fires and hunting birds, traps, finding shit at rubbish dumps, building go karts. Up to the school fields for a kick around or touch. Every day there was something new to do.

Nothings changed...

[FalseBayFC]

Ha ha looks like this dumb chop has been sent to Pollsmoor to cool off for a while.

https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/fi ... 046839101a

[Sandstorm]

If you go around any township or rural area you will see kids doing just that. Soccer, herding, cricket, rugby etc. Unfortunately in these areas they will be exposed to drugs, predators and bad things. Those of us with the means can and should be providing a controlled safe environment for our kids. Look at any of the primates like vervets and baboons. They are continually checking out their environment for predators and protecting their young. Their are and always have been human predators. Its the parents biological imperative to ensure the safety of their young.

Ja, but it's kak difficult to do that when you're welding a new braai all day long.

[Sards]

If you go around any township or rural area you will see kids doing just that. Soccer, herding, cricket, rugby etc. Unfortunately in these areas they will be exposed to drugs, predators and bad things. Those of us with the means can and should be providing a controlled safe environment for our kids. Look at any of the primates like vervets and baboons. They are continually checking out their environment for predators and protecting their young. Their are and always have been human predators. Its the parents biological imperative to ensure the safety of their young.

Ja, but it's kak difficult to do that when you're welding a new braai all day long.

If thats a bitchy dig at me sweetheart I am very sad to dissapoint you....I only make braais for friends...my company makes high end Catering equipment....Does the thought of a welder sitting at a bench with sparks all around him cause your vagina to moisten.....

[Sandstorm]

If you go around any township or rural area you will see kids doing just that. Soccer, herding, cricket, rugby etc. Unfortunately in these areas they will be exposed to drugs, predators and bad things. Those of us with the means can and should be providing a controlled safe environment for our kids. Look at any of the primates like vervets and baboons. They are continually checking out their environment for predators and protecting their young. Their are and always have been human predators. Its the parents biological imperative to ensure the safety of their young.

Ja, but it's kak difficult to do that when you're welding a new braai all day long.

If thats a bitchy dig at me sweetheart I am very sad to dissapoint you....I only make braais for friends...my company makes high end Catering equipment....Does the thought of a welder sitting at a bench with sparks all around him cause your vagina to moisten.....

Quite the opposite actually. Most people work full-time these days and it's hard for parents to be around their kids 24/7.

[Sards]

Bless you honey.

[handyman]

My holiday is only in July, with the 3rd wave here by March/April, I'm thinking of going to Hartenbos somewhere in Feb. Need to get some beach time.

[Sards]

My holiday is only in July, with the 3rd wave here by March/April, I'm thinking of going to Hartenbos somewhere in Feb. Need to get some beach time.

My wife was showing me pics of a spot there yesterday ... funny enough

[handyman]

My holiday is only in July, with the 3rd wave here by March/April, I'm thinking of going to Hartenbos somewhere in Feb. Need to get some beach time.

My wife was showing me pics of a spot there yesterday ... funny enough

The weather is usually good, I think there's a waterpark and obviously the beach, add a braai and brandewyn and Coke, what more do you want?

[Sards]

My holiday is only in July, with the 3rd wave here by March/April, I'm thinking of going to Hartenbos somewhere in Feb. Need to get some beach time.

My wife was showing me pics of a spot there yesterday ... funny enough

The weather is usually good, I think there's a waterpark and obviously the beach, add a braai and brandewyn and Coke, what more do you want?

My merchant, when I run out of stock from my harvest, has a spot down there...from his ill gotten gains...

[Blake]

It's telling how you can only think of one name from back then. Today you have syndicates abducting kids in broad daylight right in front of their parents and selling them as sex slaves. We are living in a time where 7 year old girls gets raped in the Dross toilet. Tracking devices means fokol. You think these abductors are all stupid, uneducated degenerates? You think they don't know about phones and smart watches? By the time you've noticed they've discarded anything that can be tracked. I know it sounds far fetched and movie like to most of us but it happens.

I agree with you though this lack of freedom is no good and I feel sad knowing my kids will probably never experience it.

I just mentioned one name from back then that everybody would know. How many other names of serial killer pedos do you know since then if it is that prevalent?

This kidnapping syndicate thing is tricky. While I'm not naive enough to claim they don't exist, they are also this big boogy man threat that pray on every parent's worst fears. These rumors of shadow organisations and alledged incidents of abductions that spread through WhatsApp groups and Qanon Reddit threads. Most if it bullshit that police and the neighbourhood watch need to spend time and energy disproving and getting old tannies to stop clutching their pearls.

Like most criminal enterprises these guys look for vulnerable targets...kids living in abusive environments where the parents are unlikely to kick up a fuss or kids living on the street where nobody is going to come looking for them. Privileged kids living in middle class suburbs are just too much trouble. Their disappearance kicks up a massive fuss in the media and social media. These okes operate in the shadows.

In the 'burbs parents only really have to worry about 3 types of people:
- Mentally ill (like in the Dross case)
- Drug addicts (like that attempted abduction at that Joburg restaurant last year where that tikkop got BBJ'ed into oblivion)
- Known people who they trust (dodgy uncles, dad of a friend, or friend of dad, a pedo coach or teacher etc)

Obviously no parent is going to take the risk with their kid (and I don't blame them), but this is the rational way to look at this supposed threat of "Child Abducting Syndicates" that operate with alleged impunity and snatch every kid walking alone off the street; yet there isn't (confirmed) story after story about this in every media publication.

Luckily I don't have to make this call myself just yet, but I'm hoping that when the time comes my kid will be able to hop on their bike and go and visit their friend down the road and be back for dinner etc. And if not, it will be my main motivation to move somewhere where this is the norm because I strongly believe that kids need some independence early in life to become healthy, well adjusted adults.

[Fangle]

It’s difficult to know if the numbers of paedos has increased, or just that they get more publicity. But generally I do think there is more violence out there.

[Lemoentjie]

There is definitely more violence now. It's a sensitive subject because sometimes people present it as "wasn't everything better before" without too much subtlety.

Anyone who sexually molests a pre-pubescent child should be shot. If there is concrete evidence. i.e. what should have happened to van Rooyen, but he did it himself.

[OomStruisbaai]

My holiday is only in July, with the 3rd wave here by March/April, I'm thinking of going to Hartenbos somewhere in Feb. Need to get some beach time.

Best weather all summer this week at Struisbaai. Spend every day swimming and walking on the beach. Thank vok the beach restriction is gone.

This week they have Marlin competition

https://nautitechsuzuki.com/fishing-competitions/

[average joe]

It's telling how you can only think of one name from back then. Today you have syndicates abducting kids in broad daylight right in front of their parents and selling them as sex slaves. We are living in a time where 7 year old girls gets raped in the Dross toilet. Tracking devices means fokol. You think these abductors are all stupid, uneducated degenerates? You think they don't know about phones and smart watches? By the time you've noticed they've discarded anything that can be tracked. I know it sounds far fetched and movie like to most of us but it happens.

I agree with you though this lack of freedom is no good and I feel sad knowing my kids will probably never experience it.

I just mentioned one name from back then that everybody would know. How many other names of serial killer pedos do you know since then if it is that prevalent?

This kidnapping syndicate thing is tricky. While I'm not naive enough to claim they don't exist, they are also this big boogy man threat that pray on every parent's worst fears. These rumors of shadow organisations and alledged incidents of abductions that spread through WhatsApp groups and Qanon Reddit threads. Most if it bullshit that police and the neighbourhood watch need to spend time and energy disproving and getting old tannies to stop clutching their pearls.

Like most criminal enterprises these guys look for vulnerable targets...kids living in abusive environments where the parents are unlikely to kick up a fuss or kids living on the street where nobody is going to come looking for them. Privileged kids living in middle class suburbs are just too much trouble. Their disappearance kicks up a massive fuss in the media and social media. These okes operate in the shadows.

In the 'burbs parents only really have to worry about 3 types of people:
- Mentally ill (like in the Dross case)
- Drug addicts (like that attempted abduction at that Joburg restaurant last year where that tikkop got BBJ'ed into oblivion)
- Known people who they trust (dodgy uncles, dad of a friend, or friend of dad, a pedo coach or teacher etc)

Obviously no parent is going to take the risk with their kid (and I don't blame them), but this is the rational way to look at this supposed threat of "Child Abducting Syndicates" that operate with alleged impunity and snatch every kid walking alone off the street; yet there isn't (confirmed) story after story about this in every media publication.

Luckily I don't have to make this call myself just yet, but I'm hoping that when the time comes my kid will be able to hop on their bike and go and visit their friend down the road and be back for dinner etc. And if not, it will be my main motivation to move somewhere where this is the norm because I strongly believe that kids need some independence early in life to become healthy, well adjusted adults.

I didn't get the chance to reply on this yesterday. No, I dont know of anyone except him because like you said it's not prevalent because serial killer pedo's are probably very rare but what does that have to do with the fact that the number of child abductions have been increasing year on year.

I'm not on reddit and I don't belong to any group on Whatsapp, I learned a long time ago that you won't get any sleep if you joined a group on there. It's just a bunch of complaining old tanies and people fighting over trivial shit.

Carte Blanche covered this last year and even though we don't have official figures on how much of it is human trafficking it still is very much a growing concern for parents. It's one thing losing a child to death due to sickness or accident but losing a child not knowing what happened to them, whether they're still alive or dead, where they are, what they're going through. The doubt and feeling of helplessness will be enough to drive me insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-uxoT9bZE0

[average joe]

It’s difficult to know if the numbers of paedos has increased, or just that they get more publicity. But generally I do think there is more violence out there.

I don't know how we got to serial killer pedos anyways. I mentioned syndicates abducting children for the sex trade and all of a sudden it's I must think there's Gert van Rooyens everywhere. People abducting young girls and boys for the sole purpose of grooming them and getting them hooked on narcotics to use them in the sex trade have no bearing on the prevalence of pedo serial killers.

[handyman]

My holiday is only in July, with the 3rd wave here by March/April, I'm thinking of going to Hartenbos somewhere in Feb. Need to get some beach time.

Best weather all summer this week at Struisbaai. Spend every day swimming and walking on the beach. Thank vok the beach restriction is gone.

This week they have Marlin competition

https://nautitechsuzuki.com/fishing-competitions/

I love Struis, but the wind can fok you around if you are unlucky.

Spent a fair few nights getting hammered in Michael Collins.

[assfly]

I'm off down to Amboseli next week to see me some elephants.

[assfly]

I'm off down to Amboseli next week to see me some elephants.

[Sandstorm]

Sounds great, enjoy

[Sards]

It's one thing losing a child to death due to sickness or accident but losing a child not knowing what happened to them, whether they're still alive or dead, where they are, what they're going through. The doubt and feeling of helplessness will be enough to drive me insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-uxoT9bZE0

I don't even want to think about it...

Its safe to say that until Blake experiences parenthood he just won't understand

[handyman]

It's one thing losing a child to death due to sickness or accident but losing a child not knowing what happened to them, whether they're still alive or dead, where they are, what they're going through. The doubt and feeling of helplessness will be enough to drive me insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-uxoT9bZE0

I don't even want to think about it...

Its safe to say that until Blake experiences parenthood he just won't understand

I can't think of a worse scenario.

[Sards]

You really have matured as a premium poster handy....welcome aboard. Don't forget to get your gourmet introduction dinner from Chilli on your way in. Its time for an Og braai