RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

[_Os_]

The Boks knock us out of the world cup and now their fans are claiming the most hated team title...they are not going to leave us with anything!

On any polls that had a Bok option I always selected it, good or bad. Got to win them all.

Supporting NZ but only because a Kiwi friend will have to get a Ian Foster tatoo as per a long standing bet.

Some bet, dare I ask what happens if the ABs don't win? You seem relaxed in your replies, which means either not much or a sense of resignation.

[handyman]

They are trying everything possible to get our players in trouble. Well. The tallest trees catch the most wind

Also giving us 24 hours less rest for the final.

[JM2K6]

They are trying everything possible to get our players in trouble. Well. The tallest trees catch the most wind

Surely we would target someone other than your hilariously garbage hooker?

You're talking about the man of the match in the QF against France. Your comment says much more about you than him.

He pissed his pants against us, our best source of possession. Bit late for you to start getting precious.

[assfly]

Surely we would target someone other than your hilariously garbage hooker?

You're talking about the man of the match in the QF against France. Your comment says much more about you than him.

He pissed his pants against us, our best source of possession. Bit late for you to start getting precious.

He missed some throws. It happens. We still managed to score the only try of the match from a lineout.

He is also our vice-captain, and has had to massively step-up with Marx not being available.

He is a world cup winner, and could possibly be a double world cup winner in a few days.

You called him a hilariously garbage hooker.

Check yourself out, boet.

[JM2K6]

You're talking about the man of the match in the QF against France. Your comment says much more about you than him.

He pissed his pants against us, our best source of possession. Bit late for you to start getting precious.

He missed some throws. It happens. We still managed to score the only try of the match from a lineout.

He is also our vice-captain, and has had to massively step-up with Marx not being available.

He is a world cup winner, and could possibly be a double world cup winner in a few days.

You called him a hilariously garbage hooker.

Check yourself out, boet.

He's large enough to look after himself and I'm sure he doesn't need your hysterical stamping of feet in his defence. He's an old head, I'm sure he'll be the first to recognise he was garbage at the weekend

[Raggs]

[Sards]

Currie must feel a real tool.

BREAKING NEWS
World Rugby has found Bongi Mbonambi not guilty of any racial slur against Tom Curry

What a kant

[Paddington Bear]

Currie must feel a real tool.

BREAKING NEWS
World Rugby has found Bongi Mbonambi not guilty of any racial slur against Tom Curry

What a kant

Why? He reported what he heard, carried on playing and attempting to shake his hand afterwards. What’s he done wrong?

[Sandstorm]

Currie must feel a real tool.

BREAKING NEWS
World Rugby has found Bongi Mbonambi not guilty of any racial slur against Tom Curry

What a kant

Why? He reported what he heard, carried on playing and attempting to shake his hand afterwards. What’s he done wrong?

Nothing. Just a language mis-understanding and Curry was right to put his hand up IMO. Everyone needs to calm down and move on. There are two matches this weekend.

[assfly]

Currie must feel a real tool.

BREAKING NEWS
World Rugby has found Bongi Mbonambi not guilty of any racial slur against Tom Curry

What a kant

You got a link? There seems to be a lot of misinformation going around about this.

[Sards]

Currie must feel a real tool.

BREAKING NEWS
World Rugby has found Bongi Mbonambi not guilty of any racial slur against Tom Curry

What a kant

Why? He reported what he heard, carried on playing and attempting to shake his hand afterwards. What’s he done wrong?

It was a very serious allegation and another attempt to derail the Springboks preperations for this weekend as well as cast bad vibes on Bongis Ju Ju......

It was a seriously kak allegation to make and he should be ashamed

[Slick]

Currie must feel a real tool.




What a kant

Why? He reported what he heard, carried on playing and attempting to shake his hand afterwards. What’s he done wrong?

Nothing. Just a language mis-understanding and Curry was right to put his hand up IMO. Everyone needs to calm down and move on. There are two matches this weekend.

+1

[Raggs]

Currie must feel a real tool.




What a kant

Why? He reported what he heard, carried on playing and attempting to shake his hand afterwards. What’s he done wrong?

It was a very serious allegation and another attempt to derail the Springboks preperations for this weekend as well as cast bad vibes on Bongis Ju Ju......

It was a seriously kak allegation to make and he should be ashamed

An attempt to derail their prep? Fuck off. He reported to the ref what he heard. Nothing wrong with that given what he thought was said.

[Margin__Walker]

Currie must feel a real tool.

BREAKING NEWS
World Rugby has found Bongi Mbonambi not guilty of any racial slur against Tom Curry

What a kant

You got a link? There seems to be a lot of misinformation going around about this.

He's not got a legit link, because it hasn't happened..

Albeit ultimately any investigation will go nowhere as it'll be he said / she said etc. Will just ensure there's a little more niggle next time England and the Boks meet.

[Sards]

Currie must feel a real tool.

BREAKING NEWS
World Rugby has found Bongi Mbonambi not guilty of any racial slur against Tom Curry

What a kant

You got a link? There seems to be a lot of misinformation going around about this.

A couple of publications are posting it...no in depth article as its breaking news.
I am sure a full report will be released soon

[Sandstorm]

Currie must feel a real tool.




What a kant

Why? He reported what he heard, carried on playing and attempting to shake his hand afterwards. What’s he done wrong?

It was a very serious allegation and another attempt to derail the Springboks preperations for this weekend as well as cast bad vibes on Bongis Ju Ju......

It was a seriously kak allegation to make and he should be ashamed

It's not Curry's fault. He only asked the ref in the match. The IRB took it forward, not the player. Or the England Management.

[Sards]

Why? He reported what he heard, carried on playing and attempting to shake his hand afterwards. What’s he done wrong?

It was a very serious allegation and another attempt to derail the Springboks preperations for this weekend as well as cast bad vibes on Bongis Ju Ju......

It was a seriously kak allegation to make and he should be ashamed

It's not Curry's fault. He only asked the ref in the match. The IRB took it forward, not the player. Or the England Management.

He should have made sure before reporting it.....it has been world news

[_Os_]

The story is being driven by the English right wing press. Particularly the Telegraph and Daily Mail. They have slotted it into their culture war narrative around race, which always focuses on anything where a white person could be a victim (and definitely not any story where there's victims of white racism), jumps to conclusions, then declares that racism against whites and against blacks is the same. It often blows up in their faces but by then they've moved onto the next story. The golliwog pub was one example, it turned out the whites who were the supposed victims weren't anything of the sort. They're driving this story so hard they've even forced a official response from Sunak on if Bongi is a racist or not.

You can see the editorial direction in this GB News clip with an ex-Sun editor. Claim whites are the victims of structural racism "that's just the way it is", ignore any specifics or get them wrong in this case that "kant" is pronounced "cunt", claim any defence is rubbish whilst jumping to the conclusion, that conclusion being that everyone suffers racism equally.

[Raggs]

The story is being driven by the English right wing press. Particularly the Telegraph and Daily Mail. They have slotted it into their culture war narrative around race, which always focuses on anything where a white person could be a victim (and definitely not any story where there's victims of white racism), jumps to conclusions, then declares that racism against whites and against blacks is the same. It often blows up in their faces but by then they've moved onto the next story. The golliwog pub was one example, it turned out the whites who were the supposed victims weren't anything of the sort. They're driving this story so hard they've even forced a official response from Sunak on if Bongi is a racist or not.

You can see the editorial direction in this GB News clip with an ex-Sun editor. Claim whites are the victims of structural racism "that's just the way it is", ignore any specifics or get them wrong in this case that "kant" is pronounced "cunt", claim any defence is rubbish whilst jumping to the conclusion, that conclusion being that everyone suffers racism equally.

Prominent rugby writer writes about current rugby news giving update that was previously not known....

And GBnews? They don't even classify themselves as a news channel.

[Paddington Bear]

Currie must feel a real tool.




What a kant

Why? He reported what he heard, carried on playing and attempting to shake his hand afterwards. What’s he done wrong?

It was a very serious allegation and another attempt to derail the Springboks preperations for this weekend as well as cast bad vibes on Bongis Ju Ju......

It was a seriously kak allegation to make and he should be ashamed

It’s a very serious allegation that he handled very responsibly by reporting it to the ref, leaving to the authorities and carrying on with the game. He refused to be drawn on it by the media afterwards.

As many Afrikaans speakers have pointed out, it is entirely possible that it’s a misunderstanding, but they were the ones who pointed out why it would sound exactly like he said ‘white cunt’ to an English speaker in the first place.

[Slick]

You are all genuinely insane.

[_Os_]

Currie must feel a real tool.

BREAKING NEWS
World Rugby has found Bongi Mbonambi not guilty of any racial slur against Tom Curry

What a kant

You got a link? There seems to be a lot of misinformation going around about this.

Netwerk24 is reporting that they've moved onto the November 2022 match, and it now has nothing to do with the RWC. If this is true then it looks frivolous.

[Slick]

Currie must feel a real tool.




What a kant

Why? He reported what he heard, carried on playing and attempting to shake his hand afterwards. What’s he done wrong?

It was a very serious allegation and another attempt to derail the Springboks preperations for this weekend as well as cast bad vibes on Bongis Ju Ju......

It was a seriously kak allegation to make and he should be ashamed

Just to get this straight, Sards, Curry, who's team were winning at this point, made an allegation to the ref mid game in attempt to derail the Springboks preparation for a match they hadn't even qualified for yet? Have I got this right?

[Sards]

Why? He reported what he heard, carried on playing and attempting to shake his hand afterwards. What’s he done wrong?

It was a very serious allegation and another attempt to derail the Springboks preperations for this weekend as well as cast bad vibes on Bongis Ju Ju......

It was a seriously kak allegation to make and he should be ashamed

It’s a very serious allegation that he handled very responsibly by reporting it to the ref,

You do realise that Bongi has access to a very high powered legal team backed by the Sharks....
Currie will do well to walk away without any recourse

[Sards]

Why? He reported what he heard, carried on playing and attempting to shake his hand afterwards. What’s he done wrong?

It was a very serious allegation and another attempt to derail the Springboks preperations for this weekend as well as cast bad vibes on Bongis Ju Ju......

It was a seriously kak allegation to make and he should be ashamed

Just to get this straight, Sards, Curry, who's team were winning at this point, made an allegation to the ref mid game in attempt to derail the Springboks preparation for a match they hadn't even qualified for yet? Have I got this right?

Ja.....maybe to influence the current match

[Slick]

It was a very serious allegation and another attempt to derail the Springboks preperations for this weekend as well as cast bad vibes on Bongis Ju Ju......

It was a seriously kak allegation to make and he should be ashamed

Just to get this straight, Sards, Curry, who's team were winning at this point, made an allegation to the ref mid game in attempt to derail the Springboks preparation for a match they hadn't even qualified for yet? Have I got this right?

Ja.....maybe to influence the current match

Super stuff.

Not batshit at all

[Paddington Bear]

It was a very serious allegation and another attempt to derail the Springboks preperations for this weekend as well as cast bad vibes on Bongis Ju Ju......

It was a seriously kak allegation to make and he should be ashamed

It’s a very serious allegation that he handled very responsibly by reporting it to the ref,

You do realise that Bongi has access to a very high powered legal team backed by the Sharks....
Currie will do well to walk away without any recourse

Famously English rugby lacks contacts and connections in the legal profession

[Sards]

You do realise that Bongi has access to a very high powered legal team backed by the Sharks....
Currie will do well to walk away without any recourse

Famously English rugby lacks contacts and connections in the legal profession

Imagine if it went to court.......we are talking slander and defamation of character and reputation


World rugby will do well to diffuse this.

[Paddington Bear]

You do realise that Bongi has access to a very high powered legal team backed by the Sharks....
Currie will do well to walk away without any recourse

Famously English rugby lacks contacts and connections in the legal profession

Imagine if it went to court.......we are talking slander and defamation of character and reputation


World rugby will do well to diffuse this.

A court may well decide on balance of probabilities that he did say it of course.

Anyway this is a bizarre bizarre discussion, you are a bizarre bizarre fan base for the most part

[Sards]

Famously English rugby lacks contacts and connections in the legal profession

Imagine if it went to court.......we are talking slander and defamation of character and reputation


World rugby will do well to diffuse this.

A court may well decide on balance of probabilities that he did say it of course.

Anyway this is a bizarre bizarre discussion, you are a bizarre bizarre fan base for the most part

Noone has produced any convincing proof that he said it as reported by Currie.....Balance of probabilities are with Bongi tbh.

Whats bizzare about standing up for your team players against such allegations

[_Os_]

Prominent rugby writer writes about current rugby news giving update that was previously not known....

And GBnews? They don't even classify themselves as a news channel.

Yes rugby writers are writing about it. But it has also become a general media story within a segment of the English media for which this sort of thing is catnip.

GBNews is a propaganda outlet for the Tories which is legally an entertainment channel to avoid regulations around news. It is part of the English media environment can not be wished away by pretending what it's saying doesn't exist.

[Paddington Bear]

Prominent rugby writer writes about current rugby news giving update that was previously not known....

And GBnews? They don't even classify themselves as a news channel.

Yes rugby writers are writing about it. But it has also become a general media story within a segment of the English media for which this sort of thing is catnip.

GBNews is a propaganda outlet for the Tories which is legally an entertainment channel to avoid regulations around news. It is part of the English media environment can not be wished away by pretending what it's saying doesn't exist.

Alleged racial slur on primetime tv is news shocker

[_Os_]

Prominent rugby writer writes about current rugby news giving update that was previously not known....

And GBnews? They don't even classify themselves as a news channel.

Yes rugby writers are writing about it. But it has also become a general media story within a segment of the English media for which this sort of thing is catnip.

GBNews is a propaganda outlet for the Tories which is legally an entertainment channel to avoid regulations around news. It is part of the English media environment can not be wished away by pretending what it's saying doesn't exist.

Alleged racial slur on primetime tv is news shocker

The whole GBNews/right-wing shit show angle is that because a white person is the supposed victim it is being ignored.

Which as you point out, isn't true.

[_Os_]

Famously English rugby lacks contacts and connections in the legal profession

Which is why we're into Wednesday and this is still ongoing, they surely had all the evidence days back already.

Any thoughts on the possibility the lawyers have decided to go back to the future into a match from 2022?

[Sards]

“And in my opinion as a, you know an ex-prop, and I could be wrong, I absolutely could be wrong. I’ve read columns from experts who’ve spoken to international props and who are better than me, and they have said it was the wrong decision.

“In my opinion, it was the correct decision; Ellis Genge hits, and his knee goes down, but he gets himself back up, and if you just watch before that ball comes in.

“If you just watch that millisecond, Ellis Genge goes knee down, knee back up, and he just asserts himself about 6 or 8 inches forward, and he just gets himself in a nice position and nudges Vincent Koch on the angle a little bit, which for my money, means – and by the way, I’m English I kind of try and be neutral, I desperately want England to win that game and I’m probably Ellis Genge’s biggest fan – however, I think he instigates that angle.

“I think all this scrutiny that Ben O’Keeffe has given, I don’t love. I think it was the right decision, and I think the aerial snapshot is dangerous because it tells us almost nothing.”

David Flatman

[Paddington Bear]

Famously English rugby lacks contacts and connections in the legal profession

Which is why we're into Wednesday and this is still ongoing, they surely had all the evidence days back already.

Any thoughts on the possibility the lawyers have decided to go back to the future into a match from 2022?

England didn’t make a formal complaint as they felt the chances of success based on available audio/camera angles was negligible.

If WR are investigating it is no shock they’re looking at past encounters between the two players in particular in an effort to establish a pattern/previous between them etc.

This is a big story from a big game, of course it’s still running.

[_Os_]

Calling it now, Bongi will become an all time Bok fan favourite.

"Watter kant!"

[Sards]

Calling it now, Bongi will become an all time Bok fan favourite.

"Watter kant!"

[Slick]

Famously English rugby lacks contacts and connections in the legal profession

Which is why we're into Wednesday and this is still ongoing, they surely had all the evidence days back already.

Any thoughts on the possibility the lawyers have decided to go back to the future into a match from 2022?

Are there lawyers representing the England rugby team involved?

[_Os_]

Famously English rugby lacks contacts and connections in the legal profession

Which is why we're into Wednesday and this is still ongoing, they surely had all the evidence days back already.

Any thoughts on the possibility the lawyers have decided to go back to the future into a match from 2022?

England didn’t make a formal complaint as they felt the chances of success based on available audio/camera angles was negligible.

If WR are investigating it is no shock they’re looking at past encounters between the two players in particular in an effort to establish a pattern/previous between them etc.

This is a big story from a big game, of course it’s still running.

RFU lodged a complaint.