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Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:26 am**

Thor Sedan wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:17 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:15 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:07 am

Yeah, sadly that’s about it now.
Vokken sad bunch you lot!
We are...yes....very sad.

Now you all look fucking stupid.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:27 am**

Barnes what about advantage?

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:28 am**

Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:24 am Ta'avao got red for an identical tackle but this was on a 2.05m monster yet they reckon Porter was not moving upward into the tackle. How else could his head hit the Lurch's head?

It’s a terrible decision, looked about as red as red can be.

WR have to protect the refs here and if they have changed the various levels of mitigation etc come out and say it publicly

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:28 am**

Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:25 am Akira starting to impress a bit

Flat track luxury in offence against weak or weakened defences? Part of the problem in the 1st half where he was entirely in absentia defensively...... as usual.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:28 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:26 am
Thor Sedan wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:17 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:15 am

Vokken sad bunch you lot!
We are...yes....very sad.
Now you all look fucking stupid.

I've look stupid for years....decades!

Still want Foster to go.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:28 am**

Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:24 am Ta'avao got red for an identical tackle but this was on a 2.05m monster yet they reckon Porter was not moving upward into the tackle. How else could his head hit the Lurch's head?

We've seen quite a afew incidents up here mitigated down to yellows seemingly on the basis of 'the bloke taking the hit is bigger than the tackler', couched in terms of tackle dominance/absorbing tackle. It's bullshit and most of those should have been reds, but it's also not without precedent for English refs this year.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:30 am**

BTW, the sign of the dominance in the 1st half for me was when snail Sexton sidestepped Jordan.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:30 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:28 am
Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:25 am Akira starting to impress a bit
Flat track luxury in offence against weak or weakened defences? Part of the problem in the 1st half where he was entirely in absentia defensively...... as usual.

I did say 'a bit'

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:31 am**

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:28 am
Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:24 am Ta'avao got red for an identical tackle but this was on a 2.05m monster yet they reckon Porter was not moving upward into the tackle. How else could his head hit the Lurch's head?
We've seen quite a afew incidents up here mitigated down to yellows seemingly on the basis of 'the bloke taking the hit is bigger than the tackler', couched in terms of tackle dominance/absorbing tackle. It's bullshit and most of those should have been reds, but it's also not without precedent for English refs this year.

Yeah. In a way, there should be less mitigation for not being able to get lower against a much taller man.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:32 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:26 am
Thor Sedan wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:17 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:15 am

Vokken sad bunch you lot!
We are...yes....very sad.
Now you all look fucking stupid.

Thanks for showing everyone what stupid looks like.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:32 am**

Once again, NZ bummed at the breakdown.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:32 am**

All Blacks need cleaners at the breakdowns

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:33 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:32 am All Blacks need cleaners at the breakdowns

See all of above. Gonna be really interesting to watch that area when they play SA.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:34 am**

Best crossbar challenge ever.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:34 am**

Vokken great try!!!!!

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:35 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:30 am BTW, the sign of the dominance in the 1st half for me was when snail Sexton sidestepped Jordan.

Jordan repays Sexton by skinning him on the outside

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:35 am**

Looks like the legs are gone.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:35 am**

The clichés are clichés for a reason, there’s no substitute for pace

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:35 am**

Too much kicking to hope ABS make a mistake.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:35 am**

Jordan didn't even look like he was travelling that fast, what a cracking score.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:31 am
sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:28 am
Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:24 am Ta'avao got red for an identical tackle but this was on a 2.05m monster yet they reckon Porter was not moving upward into the tackle. How else could his head hit the Lurch's head?
We've seen quite a afew incidents up here mitigated down to yellows seemingly on the basis of 'the bloke taking the hit is bigger than the tackler', couched in terms of tackle dominance/absorbing tackle. It's bullshit and most of those should have been reds, but it's also not without precedent for English refs this year.
Yeah. In a way, there should be less mitigation for not being able to get lower against a much taller man.

Absolutely.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:35 am**

Savea has been massive so far.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:36 am**

Pace in space. Always a pleasure to watch.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:37 am**

Overdue bench changes made but if the ABs won from here is a flattering result

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:37 am**

Kiwias wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:35 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:30 am BTW, the sign of the dominance in the 1st half for me was when snail Sexton sidestepped Jordan.
Jordan repays Sexton by skinning him on the outside

Not sure that really counts! You'd expect any winger of FB to burn a FH in open play!

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:37 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:35 am Savea has been massive so far.

Yup, he’s been their best player

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:38 am**

That has to be a yellow.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:38 am**

That should be a yellow for Savea.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:40 am**

I thought he’d gone too early, good finish

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:41 am**

Feeble by NZ fwds, again.

Okay banging on about what the likes of Savea and Ioane do when on the front foot but the Irish pack has had an armchair ride against the NZ backrow.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:41 am**

Herring did really well there.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:41 am**

Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:38 am That has to be a yellow.

I’m not sure it was a penalty but if Barnes gives it, it has to be a yellow

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:42 am**

Slick wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:41 am
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:38 am That has to be a yellow.
I’m not sure it was a penalty but if Barnes gives it, it has to be a yellow

My thoughts exactly

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:44 am**

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:42 am
Slick wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:41 am
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:38 am That has to be a yellow.
I’m not sure it was a penalty but if Barnes gives it, it has to be a yellow
My thoughts exactly

Yeah, it was a pen. Savea was never behind the backfoot.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:46 am**

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:37 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:35 am Savea has been massive so far.
Yup, he’s been their best player

Been their most influential player by far. Still question his defensive effectiveness.

We discussed his standing of defensive mauls near the tryline in Soup and I suspect he did the same for that Ire try?

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:47 am**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:44 am
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:42 am
Slick wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:41 am

I’m not sure it was a penalty but if Barnes gives it, it has to be a yellow
My thoughts exactly
Yeah, it was a pen. Savea was never behind the backfoot.

In fact I’ve just written that elsewhere

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:48 am**

NZ bummed at the breakdown again. NZ forced to neckroll to clear out the Ire poach.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:49 am**

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:47 am In fact I’ve just written that elsewhere

You riding both boards?

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:50 am**

Beirne again.

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:50 am**

Beirne again

Posted: **Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:51 am**

Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:50 amBeirne again.

Snap!

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