Its basically all about who will come second, not to put too fine a point on it, England are as close to a cert to win this WRWC as i have ever known.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:22 am
by eldanielfire
ASMO wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:58 am
Its basically all about who will come second, not to put too fine a point on it, England are as close to a cert to win this WRWC as i have ever known.
Not so sure, numerous games against France have been a score to two's difference in recent years. Also I feel last autumn wasn't the first time England showed their hands against New Zealand right before a world cup for NZ to learn and they have massively got their shit together. We'll see.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:18 am
by tabascoboy
Bit of a turnaround in Tokyo where Japan beat Ireland 29 - 10 after having been thoroughly outplayed in Shizuoka last week. "New look" Wales predictably thumped by Canada, 31 - 3 and USA edged a win over Scotland 21 - 17 in Edinburgh.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:36 am
by tabascoboy
Good result for Italy in Biella last night, though don't know the relative strength of the French team
That’s not a noticeably under strength French team, so looks like a very good result for Italy.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:25 pm
by sturginho
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:09 pm
by laurent
Laporte was unhappy about the team results (not getting a slam) so he put one of his goons in charge...
this went well.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:20 am
by eldanielfire
tabascoboy wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:18 am
Bit of a turnaround in Tokyo where Japan beat Ireland 29 - 10 after having been thoroughly outplayed in Shizuoka last week. "New look" Wales predictably thumped by Canada, 31 - 3 and USA edged a win over Scotland 21 - 17 in Edinburgh.
I said the issue with Wales was their complete lack of attacking cohesion and ability to gets backs onto the ball in a dangerous way but they would spend all day tackling until exhaustion. All the prfoessionalsim hasn't changed that essentially. To much gym focus I think and not enough on creative thought and devloping those lines of skill.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:28 am
by eldanielfire
laurent wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:09 pm
Laporte was unhappy about the team results (not getting a slam) so he put one of his goons in charge...
this went well.
I was surprised at some of that France game, losing a scrum penalty to Italy, little cohesion or threat in attack. Looks for now they went backwards since the 6 Nations.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:31 am
by sturginho
Manuela Furlan has been forced to retire from rugby after her injury in the first game against France
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:40 am
by eldanielfire
sturginho wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:31 am
Manuela Furlan has been forced to retire from rugby after her injury in the first game against France
That's sad news. Excellent player and key for Italy. Just before a world where Italy might have a good one. The new format will allow them to go further and for the first time they have prepered for one, usually they rock up after their season ends unprepared (and their season ends later than most others not allowing much prep).
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:46 am
by Lobby
The pools for the World Cup are starting to look rather imbalanced.
Pool A features NZ (ranked 2), but no other top ranked team Aus (7), Wales (9) and Scotland (10)
Pool B features Canada (4), USA, (5) and Italy (6), with Japan (13) making up the numbers.
Pool C features England and France (ranked 1 and 3), with SA (ranked 11) and Fiji (21)
Although NZ are guaranteed to win their group with three easy wins, the other teams in the knockout stages may benefit from having had at least one tough match in the group stages. Pool B looks like the toughest group by quite some way.
sturginho wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:31 am
Manuela Furlan has been forced to retire from rugby after her injury in the first game against France
That's sad news. Excellent player and key for Italy. Just before a world where Italy might have a good one. The new format will allow them to go further and for the first time they have prepered for one, usually they rock up after their season ends unprepared (and their season ends later than most others not allowing much prep).
Is the 'retirement' more about her age, was likely going to do so after the World Cup? Hoping it's not one of those "One more of these and it will seriously impact your future!" injuries.
sturginho wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:31 am
Manuela Furlan has been forced to retire from rugby after her injury in the first game against France
That's sad news. Excellent player and key for Italy. Just before a world where Italy might have a good one. The new format will allow them to go further and for the first time they have prepered for one, usually they rock up after their season ends unprepared (and their season ends later than most others not allowing much prep).
Is the 'retirement' more about her age, was likely going to do so after the World Cup? Hoping it's not one of those "One more of these and it will seriously impact your future!" injuries.
sturginho wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:31 am
Manuela Furlan has been forced to retire from rugby after her injury in the first game against France
That's sad news. Excellent player and key for Italy. Just before a world where Italy might have a good one. The new format will allow them to go further and for the first time they have prepered for one, usually they rock up after their season ends unprepared (and their season ends later than most others not allowing much prep).
Is the 'retirement' more about her age, was likely going to do so after the World Cup? Hoping it's not one of those "One more of these and it will seriously impact your future!" injuries.
I assumed the world cup was her swan song, hence my reference to Italy likely having a good one.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:12 am
by Niegs
Ferns named... parachuted in Hirini, Woodman, Fluhler. I haven't paid attention to the 7s. Presumably they'll be in better form than they (the latter two, at least) were on the tour to Europe last year?
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:29 am
by SaintK
Red Roses now 25 in a row having thrashed Wales last night. Love to see them unbeaten at the World Cup in New Zealand as well!
A Helena Rowland hat-trick helped England to a 73-7 win over Wales at Ashton Gate, which means the Red Roses will head to the World Cup on a winning run of 25 consecutive matches. They are the first international rugby team to win 25 in a row – the perfect springboard from which to launch their campaign on 8 October against Fiji.
Lobby wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:46 am
The pools for the World Cup are starting to look rather imbalanced.
Pool A features NZ (ranked 2), but no other top ranked team Aus (7), Wales (9) and Scotland (10)
Pool B features Canada (4), USA, (5) and Italy (6), with Japan (13) making up the numbers.
Pool C features England and France (ranked 1 and 3), with SA (ranked 11) and Fiji (21)
Although NZ are guaranteed to win their group with three easy wins, the other teams in the knockout stages may benefit from having had at least one tough match in the group stages. Pool B looks like the toughest group by quite some way.
On paper you're right. But you can't count out the Aussies. Pool B is tough alright and most likely only 1 going thru?
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:49 pm
by Lobby
SaintK wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:29 am
Red Roses now 25 in a row having thrashed Wales last night. Love to see them unbeaten at the World Cup in New Zealand as well!
A Helena Rowland hat-trick helped England to a 73-7 win over Wales at Ashton Gate, which means the Red Roses will head to the World Cup on a winning run of 25 consecutive matches. They are the first international rugby team to win 25 in a row – the perfect springboard from which to launch their campaign on 8 October against Fiji.
Helena Rowland had a great game, and deservedly won player of the match.
Interestingly, she was taken off with more than 12 minutes to go as she was starting to have cramp, and Middleton didn't want to risk her picking up an injury. As England had already used up all their subs, this meant that they voluntarily played the last 12 minutes with only 14 players. This didn't seem to make the slightest difference to the run of play, and they were still able to score their final try during this period of play.
Lobby wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:46 am
The pools for the World Cup are starting to look rather imbalanced.
Pool A features NZ (ranked 2), but no other top ranked team Aus (7), Wales (9) and Scotland (10)
Pool B features Canada (4), USA, (5) and Italy (6), with Japan (13) making up the numbers.
Pool C features England and France (ranked 1 and 3), with SA (ranked 11) and Fiji (21)
Although NZ are guaranteed to win their group with three easy wins, the other teams in the knockout stages may benefit from having had at least one tough match in the group stages. Pool B looks like the toughest group by quite some way.
On paper you're right. But you can't count out the Aussies. Pool B is tough alright and most likely only 1 going thru?
2 go through from each group, with the two best 3rd place teams also going through.
Lobby wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:46 am
The pools for the World Cup are starting to look rather imbalanced.
Pool A features NZ (ranked 2), but no other top ranked team Aus (7), Wales (9) and Scotland (10)
Pool B features Canada (4), USA, (5) and Italy (6), with Japan (13) making up the numbers.
Pool C features England and France (ranked 1 and 3), with SA (ranked 11) and Fiji (21)
Although NZ are guaranteed to win their group with three easy wins, the other teams in the knockout stages may benefit from having had at least one tough match in the group stages. Pool B looks like the toughest group by quite some way.
On paper you're right. But you can't count out the Aussies. Pool B is tough alright and most likely only 1 going thru?
2 go through from each group, with the two best 3rd place teams also going through.
Ah, sorry, should have read the rules. But that means most of the top teams will go thru as most likely 3 from group B. So no real 'group of death'. And I always reckon if you're gonna win these things you've gotta be able to beat any team on any given day, so shouldn't matter if you qualify 1st or 3rd.
I'm very surprised that Brown made it, as she's been poor in her past few appearences and never really brought her top Quins form to England. Though I'm surprised Keates us in there given she didn't play the past few tests and was sropped out the squad. She's not played much for England in the past 4 or 5 years, I think only 1 or 2 games, but she's by far the best scrummager at tighthead when I did see her play.
Lobby wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:46 am
The pools for the World Cup are starting to look rather imbalanced.
Pool A features NZ (ranked 2), but no other top ranked team Aus (7), Wales (9) and Scotland (10)
Pool B features Canada (4), USA, (5) and Italy (6), with Japan (13) making up the numbers.
Pool C features England and France (ranked 1 and 3), with SA (ranked 11) and Fiji (21)
Although NZ are guaranteed to win their group with three easy wins, the other teams in the knockout stages may benefit from having had at least one tough match in the group stages. Pool B looks like the toughest group by quite some way.
On paper you're right. But you can't count out the Aussies. Pool B is tough alright and most likely only 1 going thru?
The aussies haven't been very good at XVs for some years with the women. Though they can always score tries and flow in attack. But thsoe attacks are always one move away from a knock-on. I'd imagine Scotland game witht heir defence, pace in the backs and kicking ability will be a match-up nightmare for them.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:31 pm
by eldanielfire
SaintK wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:29 amRed Roses now 25 in a row having thrashed Wales last night. Love to see them unbeaten at the World Cup in New Zealand as well!
A Helena Rowland hat-trick helped England to a 73-7 win over Wales at Ashton Gate, which means the Red Roses will head to the World Cup on a winning run of 25 consecutive matches. They are the first international rugby team to win 25 in a row – the perfect springboard from which to launch their campaign on 8 October against Fiji.
I'd avoid jinxing it. France could, well, do a France and The Black Ferns are cooking up soemthing I think and always get the rub of the ref against England at World Cups. I'd also add I suspect based on how games should go, England could play France twice and could lose either one on the day. Though I'm not sure what happened agaisnt Italy the other week.
I'm very surprised that Brown made it, as she's been poor in her past few appearences and never really brought her top Quins form to England. Though I'm surprised Keates us in there given she didn't play the past few tests and was sropped out the squad. She's not played much for England in the past 4 or 5 years, I think only 1 or 2 games, but she's by far the best scrummager at tighthead when I did see her play.
Besides Hunt, who might be the other surprise drops?
I'm very surprised that Brown made it, as she's been poor in her past few appearences and never really brought her top Quins form to England. Though I'm surprised Keates us in there given she didn't play the past few tests and was sropped out the squad. She's not played much for England in the past 4 or 5 years, I think only 1 or 2 games, but she's by far the best scrummager at tighthead when I did see her play.
Besides Hunt, who might be the other surprise drops?
I'd say Bryony Cleall IMO, especially after Shaunagh Brown played really badly recently. I'm mostly surprised Hunt didn't go due to Middleton's constant praise of her, despite IMO some poor Scrum half basics and her Ben Young's style dithering to get the ball out.
For the most part I can't see any other surprise drop-outs. I'm actually overall pelased with the squad given who I predicted it should be.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:49 am
by ASMO
I actually predeicty Bryony Cleal wouldnt make the cut, she is a massive unit but really really underperforms in the scrum, and doesnt really show up in the loose.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:30 am
by eldanielfire
ASMO wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:49 am
I actually predeicty Bryony Cleal wouldnt make the cut, she is a massive unit but really really underperforms in the scrum, and doesnt really show up in the loose.
Shaunagh Brown does as well. Both late 20s converts to tighthead. IMO a late converted prop will never get that great in the scrum unless they have some flair and innate talent for it. I'm not a fan of doing it really. My post here will probably show both Bryony and Shaunagh were two fo the most devetstaing backrowers in the game at 6 (Bryony sometimes at 8) back in 2017 and 2018 before they switched.
My theory is like Poppy Cleall move moved to 6 and lock, they were encourage to convert as captain Sarah Hunter was not moving from 8, even though I'd argue the most effective back row wouldn't include her (Currently Packer, Aldcroft and Cleall) in terms of current quality, not that Hunter isn't a good player. Also at that time Justine Lucas was retiring leaving Sarah Bern the only quality tighthead, though Maud Muir has rectified that as she is brilliant.
On that subject of change, only 12 of the 2017 squad is going to this world cup.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:51 am
by eldanielfire
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Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:55 pm
by sturginho
Le convocate dell’Italia femminile per la Rugby World Cup 2021
Piloni
FURLAN Manuela – Arredissima Villorba Rugby, 88 caps
GRANZOTO Francesca – Unione Rugby Capitolina, 2 caps
MAGATTI Maria – CUS Milano Rugby, 46 caps
MUZZO Aura – Arredissima Villorba rugby, 27 caps
OSTUNI MINUZZI Vittoria – Valsugana Rugby Padova, 16 caps
ROLFI Sofia – Rugby Colorno, esordiente
Il programma delle partite dell’Italia femminile ai Mondiali
9 ottobre, ore 1.45 – Diretta Rai2 e Sky Sport
USA v Italia
16 ottobre, ore 1.45 – Diretta Rai2 e Sky Sport
Italia v Canada
23 ottobre, ore 1.45 – Diretta Rai2 e Sky Sport
Italia v Giappone
Furlan is included in the Italy squad, not sure if that is for moral support or if there's a possibility she will play.
Also Italy's matches are being shown live on Rai2, which is excellent news
Hopefully that is good news.
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:26 pm
by laurent
Sad news
only 39, So young :(
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:00 am
by tabascoboy
A couple of international results, from the Rugby Africa Womens XVs Cup
Tunisia 24 - 7 Senegal
Senegal 25 - 34 Madagascar
A reminder that South Africa already won Pool A played in June
Also starting today 2022-23 Rugby Europe Women’s Trophy
Belgium vs Portugal
Finland vs Germany
It's a 5 team pool tournament and Czechia sits out today
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:01 am
by tabascoboy
More results
Rugby Africa Womens XVs Cup: Tunisia 5 - 27 Madagascar
Impressive result for Madagascar who win the pool.
2022-23 Rugby Europe Women’s Trophy
Finland 43 - 5 Germany
Belgium 5 - 71 Portugal
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:53 am
by tabascoboy
Rugby Africa Womens XVs Cup Pool B
Uganda 36 - 17 Zambia
Kenya 36 - 17 Zambia
Decider as expected will be Uganda vs Kenya
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:19 am
by sturginho
Di Giandomenico leaves the Italy job after 12 years in charge. In those 12 years he took the Azzurre to consecutive world cups, an historic first QF, an historic runners-up in the 6N and leaves with the team 5th in the world rankings.
Thanks for everything
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:21 pm
by Niegs
sturginho wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:19 am
Di Giandomenico leaves the Italy job after 12 years in charge. In those 12 years he took the Azzurre to consecutive world cups, an historic first QF, an historic runners-up in the 6N and leaves with the team 5th in the world rankings.
Thanks for everything
Where do I hand in my CV? Would love to coach a team with their mindset.
... missed my chance in summer as our union was looking for someone to be their liaison the week they were here. A mate ended up doing it and said they were very professional, which was more than can be said for the T2 men's programs he'd worked with before (lack of organization, being needy that is)
sturginho wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:19 am
Di Giandomenico leaves the Italy job after 12 years in charge. In those 12 years he took the Azzurre to consecutive world cups, an historic first QF, an historic runners-up in the 6N and leaves with the team 5th in the world rankings.
Thanks for everything
Where do I hand in my CV? Would love to coach a team with their mindset.
... missed my chance in summer as our union was looking for someone to be their liaison the week they were here. A mate ended up doing it and said they were very professional, which was more than can be said for the T2 men's programs he'd worked with before (lack of organization, being needy that is)
