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From a month after the last test in 2017... AWJ doesn't even make the list.

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Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:47 pm From a month after the last test in 2017... AWJ doesn't even make the list.

How many would even be likely to be selected now? 5?

They've got the main contenders on there tbf.

AWJ is an odd omission though, given that he was the incumbent and would only be 35 at the tour (or whatever it ends up being). Which isn't always putting out to pasture age when it comes to locks.

My £10 on Nick Isiekwe is looking a solid bet.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:00 pm

Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:47 pm From a month after the last test in 2017... AWJ doesn't even make the list.

How many would even be likely to be selected now? 5?

nah I reckon 12 minimum

Obviously a very long bet, but on what possible basis was Isiekwe included? He'd only been 19 for a few months when that list was originally published.

Openside wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:26 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:00 pm

Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:47 pm From a month after the last test in 2017... AWJ doesn't even make the list.

How many would even be likely to be selected now? 5?

nah I reckon 12 minimum

As a potential captain? Definitely a lot of them would tour, but not many seem appropriate to perhaps wear the arm band.

Anyone know the odds on a Torq heart attack if its Finn?

Slick wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:01 pm Anyone know the odds on a Torq heart attack if its Finn?

Now that would be funny.



Edit - Not torq having a heart attack clearly....

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:43 pm

Openside wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:26 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:00 pm

How many would even be likely to be selected now? 5?

nah I reckon 12 minimum

As a potential captain? Definitely a lot of them would tour, but not many seem appropriate to perhaps wear the arm band.

I read Torqs comment as only 5 from that list would even make the tour let alone be Captain...

Any idea of the odds of the Lions tour actually going ahead?

That should probably be the first cab off the rank. Then you can all pull yourselves off at the prospect of captain.

Don't put the horse before the cart gentleman.

One would have thought after the last year that the Northerners wouldn't get ahead of themselves but nothing changes does it.

Awful humans......

Yes, how dare you, you utterly arrogant NH tossers, talking about Lions team squad like that. Need to be far more in dispair about the situation, without thinking of anything else except self loathing.

Green light echo wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:45 am Any idea of the odds of the Lions tour actually going ahead?

That should probably be the first cab off the rank. Then you can all pull yourselves off at the prospect of captain.

Don't put the horse before the cart gentleman.

One would have thought after the last year that the Northerners wouldn't get ahead of themselves but nothing changes does it.

Awful humans......

Aw guys forget about the poor sod, he's just sour because we left and now the ozzie teams have less teams to get butt fokked by.

Slick wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:01 pm Anyone know the odds on a Torq heart attack if its Finn?

He's not even a shoe in for selection. Gatland is not known for his like of players with variable reliability. And no-one is making Russel captain. Not even of the local park side.

Green light echo wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:45 am Any idea of the odds of the Lions tour actually going ahead?

That should probably be the first cab off the rank. Then you can all pull yourselves off at the prospect of captain.

Don't put the horse before the cart gentleman.

One would have thought after the last year that the Northerners wouldn't get ahead of themselves but nothing changes does it.

Awful humans......

Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:47 pm From a month after the last test in 2017... AWJ doesn't even make the list.

Stuart Hogg also missing from the list. Not suggesting people would want him as captain but his is captaining Scotland (well in my opinion) and would have a better chance than most Scots on that list even back then.

It's a bizarre list. Looks incomplete.

Big D wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:28 am

Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:47 pm From a month after the last test in 2017... AWJ doesn't even make the list.

Stuart Hogg also missing from the list. Not suggesting people would want him as captain but his is captaining Scotland (well in my opinion) and would have a better chance than most Scots on that list even back then.

There are worse calls than Stuart Hogg.

Everyone's got that the list is from 4 years ago, right?

Mahoney wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:28 am Everyone's got that the list is from 4 years ago, right?

Yes. It looks incomplete based on 4 years ago.

Yeah, can't speak for everyone Mahony, but think most realised that.

Hogg is a good shout as far as players not priced Big D. Especially compared to some of the names at the back end of the list.

I can't imagine many people were suggesting Hogg as a potential Lions captain after that tour, given he was still a hothead, was invalided out of the tour without playing a Test, and wasn't captaining Scotland until last year. Plus, y'know, people rightly seeing that the Scots rarely get a fair shake of it for the Lions anyway.

Mind you, there's some funny fucking names in there as it is. Russell? George? Stander?

JM2K6 wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:54 pm I can't imagine many people were suggesting Hogg as a potential Lions captain after that tour, given he was still a hothead, was invalided out of the tour without playing a Test, and wasn't captaining Scotland until last year. Plus, y'know, people rightly seeing that the Scots rarely get a fair shake of it for the Lions anyway.

Mind you, there's some funny fucking names in there as it is. Russell? George? Stander?

Yeah my point was more compared to some of the names on there like Price and the McGraths. Given he was always likely to tour I'd have expected to see Hogg as an outsider @75/1 or 100/1 or something like that.

Un Pilier wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:18 am There are worse calls than Stuart Hogg.

I am quietly fully on that bandwagon. He is still seen as the silly wee laddie who did a couple of stupid things (still does the odd thing) but at 28/29 with 10 seasons of international rugby in him he has matured into a far more solid player and leader. He is too attacking in his decisions for some but I am very happy with the way he captains Scotland.

Agree. Hogg wouldn't have been very high on the list, but you would expect him to have been priced, given he was very likely to be a fixture in the next tour party.

Margin__Walker wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:30 pm Agree. Hogg wouldn't have been very high on the list, but you would expect him to have been priced, given he was very likely to be a fixture in the next tour party.

I mean Luke McGrath? Leinster's stand in captain when all the internationals are away. Sure, he might have looked like being a bit further along in his career than he is but Murray was a young enough Lions starter (and one of the favourites on the list, somehow!). James Ryan at least had some logic to it but still, you'd have had loads ahead of those two.

Not saying Hogg is a likely contender, but he has a far more mature attitude than he did even 4 years ago.