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New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 7:39 am
by Lemoentjie
Leaving to the side how this is as generalizing as using a statue of Buddha to represent "Asian culture", the statue itself is just very strange. It looks like a stoned child:



Another incident of Americans trying to be seen as not culturally ignorant, but actually showing that they are?

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 8:49 am
by assfly
Yep they pretty much nailed it. Bravo

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 8:56 am
by Chrysoprase
About as African as Black Panther, I'm sure it'll be wildly popular

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 9:11 am
by tabascoboy
I find it mildly arousing TBH

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 11:45 am
by Lemoentjie

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 11:49 am
by assfly
There is no such thing as a single African culture to start with ffs.

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 11:51 am
by ScarfaceClaw
assfly wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 11:49 am There is no such thing as a single African culture to start with ffs.
Rubbish. If there wasn’t then how do you think they could have come up with a statue of it.

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 11:54 am
by assfly
:lol:

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 1:03 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Image

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 12:38 am
by Tilly Orifice
Lovely. Which African culture does it represent?

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 5:26 am
by Sandstorm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 1:03 pm Image
Nailed it

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:22 am
by Calculon
Not at all my cup of tea but I'm calling bullshit on the idea that it is meant to "honor African culture"
Oracle is the latest entry in Biggers’ Chimera series, which merges European statues and African masks in an interrogation of sculptural art’s history and power, reports Sarah Cascone for Artnet News. The work is Biggers’ largest-scale Chimera commission to date, notes a statement from exhibition co-organizer Art Production Fund.

As Biggers tells Artnet News, he drew inspiration from the ancient Greek Temple of Zeus and African religious art, especially that of the Luba and Maasai cultures.

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 11:12 am
by Torquemada 1420
Calculon wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 7:22 am Not at all my cup of tea but I'm calling bullshit on the idea that it is meant to "honor African culture"
Oracle is the latest entry in Biggers’ Chimera series, which merges European statues and African masks in an interrogation of sculptural art’s history and power, reports Sarah Cascone for Artnet News. The work is Biggers’ largest-scale Chimera commission to date, notes a statement from exhibition co-organizer Art Production Fund.

As Biggers tells Artnet News, he drew inspiration from the ancient Greek Temple of Zeus and African religious art, especially that of the Luba and Maasai cultures.
Pseud's Corner anyone?

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 11:51 am
by sockwithaticket
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 11:12 am
Calculon wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 7:22 am Not at all my cup of tea but I'm calling bullshit on the idea that it is meant to "honor African culture"
Oracle is the latest entry in Biggers’ Chimera series, which merges European statues and African masks in an interrogation of sculptural art’s history and power, reports Sarah Cascone for Artnet News. The work is Biggers’ largest-scale Chimera commission to date, notes a statement from exhibition co-organizer Art Production Fund.

As Biggers tells Artnet News, he drew inspiration from the ancient Greek Temple of Zeus and African religious art, especially that of the Luba and Maasai cultures.
Pseud's Corner anyone?
Part and parcel of being an artist isn't it? I remember having great fun in college with my friend who was doing art A-level as we came up with ever more ludicrous, arrant nonsense to accompany her work. Teacher lapped it up.

Toss out enough loquacious word salad and the most aesthetically limited efforts can become masterpieces.

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 11:59 am
by Torquemada 1420
sockwithaticket wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 11:51 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 11:12 am
Calculon wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 7:22 am Not at all my cup of tea but I'm calling bullshit on the idea that it is meant to "honor African culture"

Pseud's Corner anyone?
Part and parcel of being an artist isn't it? I remember having great fun in college with my friend who was doing art A-level as we came up with ever more ludicrous, arrant nonsense to accompany her work. Teacher lapped it up.

Toss out enough loquacious word salad and the most aesthetically limited efforts can become masterpieces.
Defo part and parcel of a journeyman artist. There is a direct correlation between inability and bullsh*tting. Pretty sure Giacometti would never have spouted the same toss as Bigger (who?).

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 12:14 pm
by Tichtheid
Some quotes from Alberto Giacometti


“In every work of art the subject is primordial, whether the artist knows it or not. The measure of the formal qualities is only a sign of the measure of the artist's obsession with his subject; the form is always in proportion to the obsession ... That's the terrible thing: the more one works on a picture, the more impossible it becomes to finish it.”


“All the art of the past rises up before me, the art of all ages and all civilizations, everything becomes simultaneous, as if space had replaced time. Memories of works of art blend with affective memories, with my work, with my whole life.”

“The more I work, the more I see things differently, that is, everything gains in grandeur every day, becomes more and more unknown, more and more beautiful. The closer I come, the grander it is, the more remote it is.”

“When I see a head from a great distance, it ceases to be a sphere and becomes an extreme confusion falling down into the abyss.”

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 12:15 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Tichtheid wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 12:14 pm Some quotes from Alberto Giacometti


“In every work of art the subject is primordial, whether the artist knows it or not. The measure of the formal qualities is only a sign of the measure of the artist's obsession with his subject; the form is always in proportion to the obsession ... That's the terrible thing: the more one works on a picture, the more impossible it becomes to finish it.”


“All the art of the past rises up before me, the art of all ages and all civilizations, everything becomes simultaneous, as if space had replaced time. Memories of works of art blend with affective memories, with my work, with my whole life.”

“The more I work, the more I see things differently, that is, everything gains in grandeur every day, becomes more and more unknown, more and more beautiful. The closer I come, the grander it is, the more remote it is.”

“When I see a head from a great distance, it ceases to be a sphere and becomes an extreme confusion falling down into the abyss.”
And great quotes they are. I get where he is coming from. You don't? :eh:

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 12:21 pm
by Tichtheid
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 12:15 pm
And great quotes they are. I get where he is coming from. You don't? :eh:

Not really, because although I'm aware of him and his work I haven't studied it to try to understand where he is coming from, because of this I wouldn't dismiss him or his work.

If anything it makes me find him more intriguing.

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 12:28 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Tichtheid wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 12:21 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 12:15 pm
And great quotes they are. I get where he is coming from. You don't? :eh:

Not really, because although I'm aware of him and his work I haven't studied it to try to understand where he is coming from, because of this I wouldn't dismiss him or his work.

If anything it makes me find him more intriguing.
One of the nicest guys in art ever. When the Tate visited him in the early 60s with a very limited budget looking to acquire a piece, Giacometti led them on before declaring that he was a "charlatan" and that he did the art for his own pleasure. He proceeded to give them a number of pieces for free.

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 12:49 pm
by inactionman
Tichtheid wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 12:14 pm Some quotes from Alberto Giacometti


“In every work of art the subject is primordial, whether the artist knows it or not. The measure of the formal qualities is only a sign of the measure of the artist's obsession with his subject; the form is always in proportion to the obsession ... That's the terrible thing: the more one works on a picture, the more impossible it becomes to finish it.”


“All the art of the past rises up before me, the art of all ages and all civilizations, everything becomes simultaneous, as if space had replaced time. Memories of works of art blend with affective memories, with my work, with my whole life.”

“The more I work, the more I see things differently, that is, everything gains in grandeur every day, becomes more and more unknown, more and more beautiful. The closer I come, the grander it is, the more remote it is.”

“When I see a head from a great distance, it ceases to be a sphere and becomes an extreme confusion falling down into the abyss.”
That reads like the witterings of an automated chatbot.

Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 3:29 pm
by BnM
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Re: New York City unveils a statue to honor "African culture"

Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 5:04 pm
by Hellraiser
What do tiki heads have to do with Africa?