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Similar amount of rubbish left at a Festival in the West Country earlier this month.

WTF is wrong with people?

Glaston wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:55 pm Contact Reading Festival Organisers.













Similar amount of rubbish left at a Festival in the West Country earlier this month.

WTF is wrong with people?

I get the feeling that young people are entitled arseholes, I could never imagine in a million years that a tent was a disposable purchase, there was no way I could afford to just leave a tent at a festival site

Isn’t this meant to be the eco friendly generation? We are fucked

Cheap decathlon stuff I would think and too much disposable income.

this is quite sad

Is this a uniquely British thing? The best festival I’ve been to was Lowlands near Amsterdam. The whole place was spotless the entire weekend, including the toilets and showerblocks and folk were leaving with bags of their rubbish. Every morning there was a clean up with people helping the paid cleaners etc

Tichtheid wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:08 am

Glaston wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:55 pm Contact Reading Festival Organisers.













Similar amount of rubbish left at a Festival in the West Country earlier this month.

WTF is wrong with people?

I get the feeling that young people are entitled arseholes, I could never imagine in a million years that a tent was a disposable purchase, there was no way I could afford to just leave a tent at a festival site

You can get a tent from Decathlon for 30/40 quid. That's probably a small fraction of what you would spend on beer etc there over the weekend when a can of Carlsberg costs more than a fiver.

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 am Is this a uniquely British thing? The best festival I’ve been to was Lowlands near Amsterdam. The whole place was spotless the entire weekend, including the toilets and showerblocks and folk were leaving with bags of their rubbish. Every morning there was a clean up with people helping the paid cleaners etc

We do seem to generally have a worse problem than many places with littering and that's definitely cross-generational rather than just the young. Japan used to, now it doesn't. If anyone in government gave a shit we could look at what they did, which was state led, to try and fix the issue. Littering is a symptom of people feeling divorced from society and from their envrionment, both of which manifest other negative behaviours too, so it's worth addressing beyong littering in and of itself being bad.

Tichtheid wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:08 am

Glaston wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:55 pm Contact Reading Festival Organisers.













Similar amount of rubbish left at a Festival in the West Country earlier this month.

WTF is wrong with people?

I get the feeling that young people are entitled arseholes, I could never imagine in a million years that a tent was a disposable purchase, there was no way I could afford to just leave a tent at a festival site

This!

Mind you nothing would tempt me to go to a festival.

Yes would say the idea that Britain's litter problem is a unique phenomenon to young people is patent rubbish. Ever seen beaches after family days out/sports grounds etc?

Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:38 am Yes would say the idea that Britain's litter problem is a unique phenomenon to young people is patent rubbish. Ever seen beaches after family days out/sports grounds etc?

Quite it is an anti-social problem simple as that. Most of us wouldn't dream of opening the car window and depositing the empty KFC bucket on the side of the road. Unfortunately there is a sizeable minority that think they are paying for road sweepers they may as well use them.

Glaston wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:55 pm Contact Reading Festival Organisers.













Similar amount of rubbish left at a Festival in the West Country earlier this month.

WTF is wrong with people?

Nothing has changed. I lived in Reading in the early 1970's and worked at the festival for a number of years.
Not so many tents left to clear up as they weren't a cheap, disposable item. Lots of empty glass bottles and very little plastic back then but tons of litter none the less.
Not sure it's just a "youth" thing either as there were plenty of "oldies" attending back in the day.

the one advantage is that all the unwanted crap is concentrated in that area.

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:59 am

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 am Is this a uniquely British thing? The best festival I’ve been to was Lowlands near Amsterdam. The whole place was spotless the entire weekend, including the toilets and showerblocks and folk were leaving with bags of their rubbish. Every morning there was a clean up with people helping the paid cleaners etc

We do seem to generally have a worse problem than many places with littering and that's definitely cross-generational rather than just the young. Japan used to, now it doesn't. If anyone in government gave a shit we could look at what they did, which was state led, to try and fix the issue. Littering is a symptom of people feeling divorced from society and from their envrionment, both of which manifest other negative behaviours too, so it's worth addressing beyong littering in and of itself being bad.

It's a real thing for me, just hate it. My son and I go litter picking on the local beaches for a couple of hours most weekends and it drives me mad that we don't have a coordinated government led approach to this. It's certainly not just a young thing, which makes it even worse, ever seen a London park after a hot weekend!

My kids wouldn't dream of littering and on most walks down to the shops etc will go and pick up litter and put it in bins without being asked. It needs to be drummed in at schools.

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:58 am It needs to be drummed in at schools.

senior politicians should be berating the public at large on this

I remember the last time I was at Reading Festival, 2010 I think.

On the Sunday night after the final band had played and everyone headed back to the campsites, people started setting fire to tents. There was blaze near us that was at least a couple of stories high. There was fear and panic everywhere, we nearly just decided to make a run for it and try and find out way back to our house at 2am. There were fights breaking out everywhere as people were grabbing anything they could to throw it into the fire.

It was a genuinely terrifying experience, the last time I'll do a festival of that size again.

Monk wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:03 am

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:58 am It needs to be drummed in at schools.

senior politicians should be berating the public at large on this

It's a thing you need to learn as a kid, from parents and reinforced at school. This doesn't happen in the UK so people litter.

Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:27 am

Monk wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:03 am

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:58 am It needs to be drummed in at schools.

senior politicians should be berating the public at large on this

It's a thing you need to learn as a kid, from parents and reinforced at school. This doesn't happen in the UK so people litter.

this is not simply an english problem and of course the education it starts at home

i say we should instill a culture where miscreants are ridiculed and politicos and other leaders should play a prominent role in this

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:58 am

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:59 am

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 am Is this a uniquely British thing? The best festival I’ve been to was Lowlands near Amsterdam. The whole place was spotless the entire weekend, including the toilets and showerblocks and folk were leaving with bags of their rubbish. Every morning there was a clean up with people helping the paid cleaners etc

We do seem to generally have a worse problem than many places with littering and that's definitely cross-generational rather than just the young. Japan used to, now it doesn't. If anyone in government gave a shit we could look at what they did, which was state led, to try and fix the issue. Littering is a symptom of people feeling divorced from society and from their envrionment, both of which manifest other negative behaviours too, so it's worth addressing beyong littering in and of itself being bad.

It's a real thing for me, just hate it. My son and I go litter picking on the local beaches for a couple of hours most weekends and it drives me mad that we don't have a coordinated government led approach to this. It's certainly not just a young thing, which makes it even worse, ever seen a London park after a hot weekend!

My kids wouldn't dream of littering and on most walks down to the shops etc will go and pick up litter and put it in bins without being asked. It needs to be drummed in at schools.

My kids did at an early age and I'm pleased to see my 6 year old grandaughter starting to do the same.
You are correct about the age thing. I regularly walk across part of one of the most expensive golf courses in the county and am amazed to see how much crap some of the arseholes who play it chuck into the hedges and long grass.
It does my brain in!!!!

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:58 am

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:59 am

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 am Is this a uniquely British thing? The best festival I’ve been to was Lowlands near Amsterdam. The whole place was spotless the entire weekend, including the toilets and showerblocks and folk were leaving with bags of their rubbish. Every morning there was a clean up with people helping the paid cleaners etc

We do seem to generally have a worse problem than many places with littering and that's definitely cross-generational rather than just the young. Japan used to, now it doesn't. If anyone in government gave a shit we could look at what they did, which was state led, to try and fix the issue. Littering is a symptom of people feeling divorced from society and from their envrionment, both of which manifest other negative behaviours too, so it's worth addressing beyong littering in and of itself being bad.

It's a real thing for me, just hate it. My son and I go litter picking on the local beaches for a couple of hours most weekends and it drives me mad that we don't have a coordinated government led approach to this. It's certainly not just a young thing, which makes it even worse, ever seen a London park after a hot weekend!

My kids wouldn't dream of littering and on most walks down to the shops etc will go and pick up litter and put it in bins without being asked. It needs to be drummed in at schools.

Agree with this.

Re the bold bit - sadly the worst litterer I know is a senior secondary school teacher with over 30 years experience.

He will quite happily drop a food wrapper, coffee cup etc. I fell out with him once on a night out when he dropped his chip wrapper on the ground... about 5 yards from a bin. Drives me mental.

He’s also a father of 4 and there’s been times where I’ve stayed behind in cafes to tidy up after him and his kids as I was embarrassed by the utter carnage left behind. Personally, we hammer it into our kids to never litter and to clear up after themselves.

I can't believe that the UK hasn't banned single-use plastic bags yet.

They did here a few years ago and within a couple of weeks the difference was incredible.

Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:27 am

Monk wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:03 am

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:58 am It needs to be drummed in at schools.

senior politicians should be berating the public at large on this

It's a thing you need to learn as a kid, from parents and reinforced at school. This doesn't happen in the UK so people litter.

Ideally, it starts at home, but you can't rely on that. Unfortunately, teaching taught me that many parents are more awful than I'd previously imagined at and have no intention of raising even somewhat decent human beings and that the school can only do so much by way of correction since parents will actively undermine everything as soon as the child is back at home. One of many dispiriting experiences was giving a year 9 detention after overhearing him use 'darkies' and setting a research task as to why it's an unacceptable term which led to a complaint being made against me by the parents because it wasn't my fucking job to try and parent their kid apparently. I never quite mustered the nerve to respond with 'Someone bloody well needs to', he was a generally feral little shitbag, racist language was just the rotting cherry on top.

I agree with Monk, hpwever much we might distrust politicians, they are in the public eye and we do look to their behaviour, subconsciously or otherwise, as a steer on what's now permissable. Plus some issues really requires the government to get the ball rolling. The informational apparatus of the state is quite incredible when mobilised and given a target.

assfly wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:24 am I remember the last time I was at Reading Festival, 2010 I think.

On the Sunday night after the final band had played and everyone headed back to the campsites, people started setting fire to tents. There was blaze near us that was at least a couple of stories high. There was fear and panic everywhere, we nearly just decided to make a run for it and try and find out way back to our house at 2am. There were fights breaking out everywhere as people were grabbing anything they could to throw it into the fire.

It was a genuinely terrifying experience, the last time I'll do a festival of that size again.

The same thing happens at the shittier Irish festivals too. I remember Oxegen one year where after trudging around in calf deep mud and getting rained on for the whole weekend (and spraining my ankle on day 1) I got woken up by a deodorant can exploding after being thrown into the tent right behind mine which had been set on fire. The shrapnel left holes in my tent.
Scumbag kids are gonna scum.

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:58 am

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:59 am

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:48 am Is this a uniquely British thing? The best festival I’ve been to was Lowlands near Amsterdam. The whole place was spotless the entire weekend, including the toilets and showerblocks and folk were leaving with bags of their rubbish. Every morning there was a clean up with people helping the paid cleaners etc

We do seem to generally have a worse problem than many places with littering and that's definitely cross-generational rather than just the young. Japan used to, now it doesn't. If anyone in government gave a shit we could look at what they did, which was state led, to try and fix the issue. Littering is a symptom of people feeling divorced from society and from their envrionment, both of which manifest other negative behaviours too, so it's worth addressing beyong littering in and of itself being bad.

It's a real thing for me, just hate it. My son and I go litter picking on the local beaches for a couple of hours most weekends and it drives me mad that we don't have a coordinated government led approach to this. It's certainly not just a young thing, which makes it even worse, ever seen a London park after a hot weekend!

My kids wouldn't dream of littering and on most walks down to the shops etc will go and pick up litter and put it in bins without being asked. It needs to be drummed in at schools.

I'm the same, drives me insane and my aggressive big prick side storms to the surface. My wife actually groans when she realises I have seen some scumbag throw away litter as she knows what is coming as I just can't help confronting them.

I'll probably get away with it for another few years until the victims realise my age means I am more bark than bite.