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White sugar only please.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:54 pm
by Torquemada 1420

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:30 pm
by Hugo
Didn't realise how edgy the song was tbh. One of those songs where I know the chorus but never paid enough attention to the rest of the lyrics to know exactly what the song is about.

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:31 am
by FalseBayFC
Hugo wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:30 pm Didn't realise how edgy the song was tbh. One of those songs where I know the chorus but never paid enough attention to the rest of the lyrics to know exactly what the song is about.
Yes and given the current climate and revelations around underage groupies its probably best that its retired from the programme. The Stones have some dodgy rumours about them and teenage girls. Apart from Bill Wyman and the 13 year old there is Keith Richards. God knows what skeletons that guy has in his closet.

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:51 am
by SaintK
FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:31 am
Hugo wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:30 pm Didn't realise how edgy the song was tbh. One of those songs where I know the chorus but never paid enough attention to the rest of the lyrics to know exactly what the song is about.
Yes and given the current climate and revelations around underage groupies its probably best that its retired from the programme. The Stones have some dodgy rumours about them and teenage girls. Apart from Bill Wyman and the 13 year old there is Keith Richards. God knows what skeletons that guy has in his closet.
Not that he'd be able to remember many of them!!!

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:51 am
by FalseBayFC
SaintK wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:51 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:31 am
Hugo wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:30 pm Didn't realise how edgy the song was tbh. One of those songs where I know the chorus but never paid enough attention to the rest of the lyrics to know exactly what the song is about.
Yes and given the current climate and revelations around underage groupies its probably best that its retired from the programme. The Stones have some dodgy rumours about them and teenage girls. Apart from Bill Wyman and the 13 year old there is Keith Richards. God knows what skeletons that guy has in his closet.
Not that he'd be able to remember many of them!!!
Exactly!

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:12 am
by Torquemada 1420
Hugo wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:30 pm Didn't realise how edgy the song was tbh. One of those songs where I know the chorus but never paid enough attention to the rest of the lyrics to know exactly what the song is about.
Unless I've misunderstood it after listening to it for 4 decades, it's an entirely anti-slavery song.

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:52 pm
by Blackmac
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:12 am
Hugo wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:30 pm Didn't realise how edgy the song was tbh. One of those songs where I know the chorus but never paid enough attention to the rest of the lyrics to know exactly what the song is about.
Unless I've misunderstood it after listening to it for 4 decades, it's an entirely anti-slavery song.
I'm maybe being slow but you will need to explain the anti slavery angle to me, I just don't hear it.

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:51 pm
by FalseBayFC
Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good?
Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should


Anti-slavery lol

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:33 pm
by Slick
Blackmac wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:52 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:12 am
Hugo wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:30 pm Didn't realise how edgy the song was tbh. One of those songs where I know the chorus but never paid enough attention to the rest of the lyrics to know exactly what the song is about.
Unless I've misunderstood it after listening to it for 4 decades, it's an entirely anti-slavery song.
I'm maybe being slow but you will need to explain the anti slavery angle to me, I just don't hear it.
Well it’s certainly taking about the horrors of slavery. I don’t think you can doubt their support of black people, particularly in that era

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:11 am
by FalseBayFC
Slick wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:33 pm
Blackmac wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:52 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:12 am
Unless I've misunderstood it after listening to it for 4 decades, it's an entirely anti-slavery song.
I'm maybe being slow but you will need to explain the anti slavery angle to me, I just don't hear it.
Well it’s certainly taking about the horrors of slavery. I don’t think you can doubt their support of black people, particularly in that era
Read a bit more about it. Marsha Hunt claims it was written about her. Jagger was 26 at the time and Marsha was 23. I'm pretty sure that its just a young Jagger being a "Right on!" It was the decade of Civil Rights and Black panthers and Jagger had a hot black gf. Not hard to see how the song came out like that.

Keith Richards response is classic. “I'm trying to figure out with the sisters quite where the beef is,”

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:12 am
by Calculon
It's just a naughty song with a good groove. To call it an anti slavery song would be a massive stretch but people are free to interpret it however they want.

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:13 am
by Torquemada 1420
Blackmac wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:52 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:12 am
Hugo wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:30 pm Didn't realise how edgy the song was tbh. One of those songs where I know the chorus but never paid enough attention to the rest of the lyrics to know exactly what the song is about.
Unless I've misunderstood it after listening to it for 4 decades, it's an entirely anti-slavery song.
I'm maybe being slow but you will need to explain the anti slavery angle to me, I just don't hear it.
I don’t know. I’m trying to figure out with the sisters quite where the beef is. Didn’t they understand this was a song about the horrors of slavery? But they’re trying to bury it. At the moment I don’t want to get into conflicts with all of this sh*t. [/Keith Richards]

Suggest you both listen to SLF's White Noise then.

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:02 am
by Calculon
In the liner notes to the compilation album Jump Back (1993), Jagger says, "The lyric was all to do with the dual combination of drugs and girls. This song was a very instant thing, a definite high point".[13]

After noting that the lyrics could mean so many lewd subjects,[15] he again noted that the combination of those subjects, the lyrical ambiguity was partially why the song was considered successful. He noted, "That makes it... the whole mess thrown in. God knows what I'm on about on that song. It's such a mishmash. All the nasty subjects in one go... I never would write that song now.

So the song that was inspired by Mick's hot young black girlfriend, and initially called ‘Black Pussy, even if it does mention the whipping and rape of female black slaves, has IMO at least only a tangential anti slavery message, rather than it being its raison d'être. Anyway, the lyrics are ambiguous and can be legitimately interpreted in different ways. I like the song.

Lyrics
Gold coast slave ship bound for cotton fields,
Sold in a market down in new orleans.
Skydog slaver know he's doin alright.
Hear him whip the women just around midnight.
Ah brown sugar how come you taste so good
(a-ha) brown sugar, just like a young girl should
A-huh.

Drums beating, cold english blood runs hot,
Lady of the house wondrin where it's gonna stop.
House boy knows that he's doin alright.
You should a heard him just around midnight.
Ah brown sugar how come you taste so good
(a-ha) brown sugar, just like a black girl should
A-huh.

I bet your mama was a tent show queen, and all her boy
Friends were sweet sixteen.
I'm no schoolboy but I know what I like,
You should have heard me just around midnight.

Ah brown sugar how come you taste so good
(a-ha) brown sugar, just like a young girl should.

I said yeah, I said yeah, I said yeah, I said
Oh just like a, just like a black girl should.

I said yeah, I said yeah, I said yeah, I said
Oh just like, just like a black girl should

Re: White sugar only please.

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:25 am
by Globus
One of the very best disco plays in my days.

I used to do flick flacks on the dance floor. A lady puller!