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Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:49 pm**

Not many about these days, it seems.

I've known this vicar for many years. I had a bit of a run in with a son of a well known politician.

Much happening in your neck of the woods?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_La ... _(chemist)

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:38 pm**

All i know is sales of them to the public should be banned.

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:41 pm**

ASMO wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:38 pm All i know is sales of them to the public should be banned.

Killjoy.

I was surprised to have to provide chapter and verse in terms of ID and contact details to The Range when getting my cheap and nasty damp squib chinese fireworks. Assume it's to track antisocial users (if you concede there are social users) - given the amount they sell how the hell would they know whose is whose?

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:33 pm**

my poor dogs are shivering wrecks at this time of year in the evenings.

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:56 pm**

ASMO wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:38 pm All i know is sales of them to the public should be banned.

Yep, should be limited to licensed public events. Joe Bloggs shouldn't have the ability to set off half a dozen in his garden whenever he feels like.

Pet owners get to see firsthand how much animals are disturbed by it, what's left of our wildlife feels exactly the same without the benefit of owners on hand to soothe.

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:22 pm**

Very quiet one this year.

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:21 pm**

ASMO wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:38 pm All i know is sales of them to the public should be banned.

Think I'd have to agree now. If I went down to the hardware store and bought some sugar and weedkiller, I'd have some gentlemen on my doorstep wearing padded jackets. But buy a load of gunpowder and it's fine?

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:26 pm**

Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:22 pm Very quiet one this year.

They've been going off more or less constantly since 17:30 for me. Sporadic bursts of a few, clearly not organised displays.

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:27 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:26 pm
Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:22 pm Very quiet one this year.
They've been going off more or less constantly since 17:30 for me. Sporadic bursts of a few, clearly not organised displays.

Very little for me. We are in same spot aren’t we? Waverley?

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:30 pm**

Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:27 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:26 pm
Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:22 pm Very quiet one this year.
They've been going off more or less constantly since 17:30 for me. Sporadic bursts of a few, clearly not organised displays.
Very little for me. We are in same spot aren’t we? Waverley?

Yeah, covers a fair old area though, so I can well imagine us having very different experiences. I'm pretty close to Haslemere.

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:35 pm**

sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:30 pm
Ymx wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:27 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:26 pm

They've been going off more or less constantly since 17:30 for me. Sporadic bursts of a few, clearly not organised displays.
Very little for me. We are in same spot aren’t we? Waverley?
Yeah, covers a fair old area though, so I can well imagine us having very different experiences. I'm pretty close to Haslemere.

Ah right, yes I’m Godalming.

Im only hearing it once every 5 mins. Very different from past years.

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:23 pm**

Does any other country celebrate the most horrific execution imaginable, of a human being ?

Maybe if instead of the jolly, "Penny for the Guy"; kids went around with a barrow full of pig intestines, & various body parts; the British might think again ? .... but I don't hold out much hope.

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:25 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:23 pm Does any other country celebrate the most horrific execution imaginable, of a human being ?

Maybe if instead of the jolly, "Penny for the Guy"; kids went around with a barrow full of pig intestines, & various body parts; the British might think again ? .... but I don't hold out much hope.

you never miss an opportunity

Jesus didn’t exactly have fun if I remember correctly

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:27 pm**

Anyway, I’ve somehow been made chief pyrotechnics officer for our little community gathering tomorrow evening. Very much looking forward to it

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:32 pm**

Slick wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:25 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:23 pm Does any other country celebrate the most horrific execution imaginable, of a human being ?

Maybe if instead of the jolly, "Penny for the Guy"; kids went around with a barrow full of pig intestines, & various body parts; the British might think again ? .... but I don't hold out much hope.
you never miss an opportunity

I find it bizarre that a nation can celebrate someone being; ritually tortured; & given the most excruciating death imaginable .... & then turn it into a fucking holiday.

Should Saudi turn 7/7, or the Manchester Arena bombing into a holiday ?

with kids running around in suicide vests; that when they pull the detonator; set off fireworks ?

would that be tasteless; or just a celebration ?

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:34 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:32 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:25 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:23 pm Does any other country celebrate the most horrific execution imaginable, of a human being ?

Maybe if instead of the jolly, "Penny for the Guy"; kids went around with a barrow full of pig intestines, & various body parts; the British might think again ? .... but I don't hold out much hope.
you never miss an opportunity
I find it bizarre that a nation can celebrate someone being; ritually tortured; & given the most excruciating death imaginable .... & then turn it into a fucking holiday.

Should Saudi turn 7/7, or the Manchester Arena bombing into a holiday ?

with kids running around in suicide vests; that when they pull the detonator; set off fireworks ?

would that be tasteless; or just a celebration ?

You missed my edit

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:38 pm**

Anyway, it started as a celebration of Parliament not being blown up, not a celebration of inventive ways to kill people.

Honestly, you Irish are really fucking odd sometimes, listen to yourself

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:45 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:32 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:25 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:23 pm Does any other country celebrate the most horrific execution imaginable, of a human being ?

Maybe if instead of the jolly, "Penny for the Guy"; kids went around with a barrow full of pig intestines, & various body parts; the British might think again ? .... but I don't hold out much hope.
you never miss an opportunity
I find it bizarre that a nation can celebrate someone being; ritually tortured; & given the most excruciating death imaginable .... & then turn it into a fucking holiday.

Should Saudi turn 7/7, or the Manchester Arena bombing into a holiday ?

with kids running around in suicide vests; that when they pull the detonator; set off fireworks ?

would that be tasteless; or just a celebration ?

Seriously, have a word with yourself. Comparing a fun bit of tradition from an event over 400 years ago to kids being slaughtered at a music concert a few years back. FFS. I hope you’ve had a drink tonight

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:57 pm**

Slick wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:25 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:23 pm Does any other country celebrate the most horrific execution imaginable, of a human being ?

Maybe if instead of the jolly, "Penny for the Guy"; kids went around with a barrow full of pig intestines, & various body parts; the British might think again ? .... but I don't hold out much hope.
you never miss an opportunity

Jesus didn’t exactly have fun if I remember correctly

Christians don't exactly celebrate the crucifixion; they remember it; & then three days later they celebrate the resurrection.

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:48 pm**

Guy Fawkes Day was a big deal when I was a small kid, with public bonfires and fireworks starting chimney fires. Even later, I remember friends telling me about the epic skyrocket battles they had with other student flats in Dunedin.

But I think the whole Americanised Halloween thing possibly stole its thunder...along with the growing awareness of the dangers of fireworks, of course. Suits me - after living in Taiwan for so long, I couldn't care less if I never see or hear another firework in my life.

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:58 pm**

Gumboot wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:48 pm Guy Fawkes Day was a big deal when I was a small kid, with public bonfires and fireworks starting chimney fires. Even later, I remember friends telling me about the epic skyrocket battles they had with other student flats in Dunedin.

But I think the whole Americanised Halloween thing possibly stole its thunder...along with the growing awareness of the dangers of fireworks, of course. Suits me - after living in Taiwan for so long, I couldn't care less if I never see or hear another firework in my life.

The key in those Dunedin flat battles was getting hold of the aluminium crutches. Take the rubber stopper off and you had a fairly accurate launcher. We managed to get a few into the front doors or windows of Clyde Street with that technique.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:06 am**

yermum wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:33 pm my poor dogs are shivering wrecks at this time of year in the evenings.

I am a firm believer that dogs should not be allowed in cities and towns anyway. Keep them in the farms and working. If they are too small, don't breed them.

Those bloody things bark for 364 days a year because they are bored and cooped up - One day a year they are snivelling and shivering. Cry me a river.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:13 am**

Enzedder wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:06 am
yermum wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:33 pm my poor dogs are shivering wrecks at this time of year in the evenings.
I am a firm believer that dogs should not be allowed in cities and towns anyway. Keep them in the farms and working. If they are too small, don't breed them.

Those bloody things bark for 364 days a year because they are bored and cooped up - One day a year they are snivelling and shivering. Cry me a river.

Well... nah.

Having grown up working on farms and now been living in a city for 25 years, there isn't an epidemic of barking, one eye open cooped up loon dogs.

Dogs provide a great deal of companionship and I'm wary of proscribing things like dog ownership.

The worst treatment I saw of dogs was by self-proclaimed "stockmen".
They had no fucking idea.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:05 am**

I'm afraid I went off town dogs when one tried to make mince out of my daughters throat as she walked home from school. I will never ever believe they should be in towns after that.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:43 am**

I'm with Enz on this. The only people who should have legal access to dogs (and guns) in urban areas are the police, imho.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:20 am**

Yeah I don’t think the rest of society should have to cater for dog owners. Bonfire Night is a remarkably ancient tradition, and I’d have far more sympathy for the people screeching on facebook about their dog if my walks in the woods weren’t regularly interrupted by mastiffs/dobermans etc off their lead and jumping up at me.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:55 am**

Well this is a fucking cheerful thread!

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:00 am**

Globus wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:49 pm Not many about these days, it seems.

I've known this vicar for many years. I had a bit of a run in with a son of a well known politician.

Much happening in your neck of the woods?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_La ... _(chemist)

We've had a few round our way this year. Diwali is well celebrated by some families where I stay and lots of kids so many houses have their own wee fireworks show.

Thankfully my dog isn't too bothered by them at all to the point we can go for a walk during the fireworks going off.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:15 am**

fishfoodie wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:23 pm Does any other country celebrate the most horrific execution imaginable, of a human being ?

Maybe if instead of the jolly, "Penny for the Guy"; kids went around with a barrow full of pig intestines, & various body parts; the British might think again ? .... but I don't hold out much hope.

Well, every Christian one celebrated Good Friday and Easter.

And many countries celebrate revolutions which were pretty bloody.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:16 am**

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:55 am Well this is a fucking cheerful thread!

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:22 am**

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:20 am Yeah I don’t think the rest of society should have to cater for dog owners. Bonfire Night is a remarkably ancient tradition, and I’d have far more sympathy for the people screeching on facebook about their dog if my walks in the woods weren’t regularly interrupted by mastiffs/dobermans etc off their lead and jumping up at me.

It's not just dogs that get terrified by fireworks. Fireworks per se aren't the problem, it's the freedom of just anyone to light them up whenever they feel like it.

Given the preponderance of shittty dog owners I'm also in favour of bringing back needing a license to own one and being limited to how many an individual can possess,

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:47 am**

So no fireworks, no dogs.

Anything else this thread wants to do to suck the joy out of life? Beer? Television? Music?

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:59 am**

Biffer wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:47 am So no fireworks, no dogs.

Anything else this thread wants to do to suck the joy out of life? Beer? Television? Music?

Yeah, licensing has really done away with cars hasn't it. Never see them around.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:00 am**

Ban Xmas. Waste of money and children should learn early that you get nothing given to you free in life. Nothing.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:03 am**

I echo getting rid of cars

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:03 am**

Abomination, should be banned.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:04 am**

Slick wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:38 pm Anyway, it started as a celebration of Parliament not being blown up, not a celebration of inventive ways to kill people.

Honestly, you Irish are really fucking odd sometimes, listen to yourself

Does FF also complain about Bastille Day?

Mind you, I hope no one tells him about bonfire night in Lewes.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:10 am**

Even once the torture was over, Fawkes still had to meet a grisly end.

After his confession, he was to be hanged, drawn, and quartered. However, Fawkes leapt from the gallows before he could be hanged. The fall broke his neck and, according to the BBC, saved him from being disemboweled while still alive.

His remains were cut up and sent to the four corners of the kingdom as a warning to future plotters.

What is this teaching our kids?

Shouldn’t we be celebrating by throwing a catholic dummy from a height to the ground, then cutting it in to pieces, rather than burning it in a bonfire.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:11 am**

It would have been the 9/11 of it’s day and likely not even had it’s desired effect, hard to get too teary eyed for him.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:15 am**

Biffer wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:47 am So no fireworks, no dogs.

Anything else this thread wants to do to suck the joy out of life? Beer? Television? Music?

Why didn't you just say ONLY fireworks and dogs are off limits?

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