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Has there ever been…

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:34 am
by Biffer
..a fly half who’s played five games in a row against England without losing one?

Re: Has there ever been…

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:45 am
by notfatcat
It's not much of a claim to fame so I would say probably.

Re: Has there ever been…

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:55 am
by Happyhooker
Off the top of my head, andrew mehrtens.

Re: Has there ever been…

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:30 am
by Grandpa
Dan Carter has played England 11 times.... and only lost once in 2012... so likely 5 in a row somewhere there?

Re: Has there ever been…

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:42 am
by Happyhooker
Grandpa wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:30 am Dan Carter has played England 11 times.... and only lost once in 2012... so likely 5 in a row somewhere there?
Mathematically certain if those stats are correct

Mehrtens famously never lost to England, despite being a cunt about it.

So there's 2

Re: Has there ever been…

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:31 am
by Guy Smiley
😂

He was always a straight shooter, Mehrts.

Re: Has there ever been…

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:59 am
by Ymx
This smells like Torq bait.

Re: Has there ever been…

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:51 am
by weegie01
If it was qualified as a 5/6 Nations fly half, probably not.

I thought that was one of Russell's best games ever. Apart from one missed kick to touch (it is Russell after all) he was making tackles, distributing well and nailing kicks. None of the flash that usually gets him noticed, all the basic craft of a 10 at the top of his game.

Re: Has there ever been…

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:00 am
by Yr Alban
weegie01 wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:51 am If it was qualified as a 5/6 Nations fly half, probably not.

I thought that was one of Russell's best games ever. Apart from one missed kick to touch (it is Russell after all) he was making tackles, distributing well and nailing kicks. None of the flash that usually gets him noticed, all the basic craft of a 10 at the top of his game.
I think Marcus Smith is a great player and may go on to be a legendary one. But I did crack a bit of a wry smile at the commentators describing him as ‘magical’ whilst his opposite number delivered a masterclass.

Re: Has there ever been…

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:18 am
by Torquemada 1420
Biffer wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:34 am ..a fly half who’s played five games in a row against England without losing one?
Do you mean the player's 5 appearances in a row or the side's? Because injuries would have a serious impact on the latter stats.

Re: Has there ever been…

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:19 am
by Torquemada 1420
weegie01 wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:51 am If it was qualified as a 5/6 Nations fly half, probably not.

I thought that was one of Russell's best games ever. Apart from one missed kick to touch (it is Russell after all) he was making tackles, distributing well and nailing kicks. None of the flash that usually gets him noticed, all the basic craft of a 10 at the top of his game.
Even I have to agree with that. He was clearly told to play a tactical game and did exactly that. Definitely won the territory duel with Smith.

Re: Has there ever been…

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:38 pm
by Lobby
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:19 am
weegie01 wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:51 am If it was qualified as a 5/6 Nations fly half, probably not.

I thought that was one of Russell's best games ever. Apart from one missed kick to touch (it is Russell after all) he was making tackles, distributing well and nailing kicks. None of the flash that usually gets him noticed, all the basic craft of a 10 at the top of his game.
Even I have to agree with that. He was clearly told to play a tactical game and did exactly that. Definitely won the territory duel with Smith.
As has been noted elsewhere, he was helped by Scotland playing a game plan that was more suited to his skills, whereas England were playing to Eddie's masterplan, which is counter to Smith's instincts and skills.

Having said that, he was superb yesterday, and it was his vision and execution that led to Scotland's tries.

Re: Has there ever been…

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:37 pm
by weegie01
I saw in a newspaper article that Townsend expected him to be MotM.

Edit
It was also interesting in reviews that John Barclay pointed out how often Russell was calling moves in broken play.