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£28 million of whisky
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:21 pm
by Biffer
Re: £28 million of whisky
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:00 pm
by robmatic
I bet it doesn't taste that great, or at least it's probably not to my tastes. I tend not to enjoy whiskies that have spent more than 20 or so years in a cask.
And I'm not just saying that because I can't afford it.
Re: £28 million of whisky
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:03 pm
by Tichtheid
Macallan has always been a bit over priced imo.
Re: £28 million of whisky
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:03 pm
by PornDog
I always wonder with these extreme aged Whiskeys - is it that they just found a long forgotten barrel buried in some dark corner somewhere, or was it actually left there by design.
Re: £28 million of whisky
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:07 pm
by Tichtheid
robmatic wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:00 pm
I bet it doesn't taste that great, or at least it's probably not to my tastes. I tend not to enjoy whiskies that have spent more than 20 or so years in a cask.
And I'm not just saying that because I can't afford it.
We used to get reps from distilleries and whisky companies presenting at our tasting sessions, the Pernod Ricard guy thought that 21 years is about optimum for a single malt, after that it doesn't really improve.
It goes up massively in price, though
Re: £28 million of whisky
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:13 pm
by Biffer
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:07 pm
robmatic wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:00 pm
I bet it doesn't taste that great, or at least it's probably not to my tastes. I tend not to enjoy whiskies that have spent more than 20 or so years in a cask.
And I'm not just saying that because I can't afford it.
We used to get reps from distilleries and whisky companies presenting at our tasting sessions, the Pernod Ricard guy thought that 21 years is about optimum for a single malt, after that it doesn't really improve.
It goes up massively in price, though
Yeah, this stuff isn't going to be for drinking, except by stupidly rich twats. It's for collectors.
Re: £28 million of whisky
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:30 pm
by Brazil
If it's been in the cask all that time it'll be abut 2% ABV by now. Presumably it's blended from a number of casks and probably has something more recent in it too.
There's a fair few old bottles of spirits on Whiskey Exchange that you think might be interesting to try given the changes in production over the years, and some of the stuff that's been discontinued would be very interesting. Ultimately, though, I don't really get collecting booze, the whole point is to enjoy it, and being stuck in a bottle, even if it is held by three symbolic hands, somewhat serves as a barrier to that.
Re: £28 million of whisky
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:09 pm
by Tichtheid
Brazil wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:30 pm
If it's been in the cask all that time it'll be abut 2% ABV by now. Presumably it's blended from a number of casks and probably has something more recent in it too.
There's a fair few old bottles of spirits on Whiskey Exchange that you think might be interesting to try given the changes in production over the years, and some of the stuff that's been discontinued would be very interesting. Ultimately, though, I don't really get collecting booze, the whole point is to enjoy it, and being stuck in a bottle, even if it is held by three symbolic hands, somewhat serves as a barrier to that.
I looked it up and it's been bottled at 41.6%
The Angels' Share is something I find interesting, a lot depends on the conditions in which the cask is kept. Signatory sell a lot of cask strength whisky, some of their 30 year olds are still around the 60% mark, it's usually put in the barrel at about 63% iirc.
As for the age statement, you're only allowed to declare the youngest whisky in the bottle, ie if a bottle is made up of several whiskies from the distiller and the youngest is 12 years old, that is what has to go on the from of the bottle.
However, this is a single cask.
Re: £28 million of whisky
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:07 pm
by Hellraiser
Brazil wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:30 pm
If it's been in the cask all that time it'll be abut 2% ABV by now.
New make was casked at a far higher strength back then and the barrels used were often up to 6th fill which meant they were basically inert (may as well have been ceramic was they way it was put to me), meaning that there was fuck all movement of liquid into and out of the wood and correspondingly much less angel's share and a much longer maturation was required for wood influence to come through.
Re: £28 million of whisky
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:11 pm
by Hellraiser
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:09 pm
Brazil wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:30 pm
If it's been in the cask all that time it'll be abut 2% ABV by now. Presumably it's blended from a number of casks and probably has something more recent in it too.
There's a fair few old bottles of spirits on Whiskey Exchange that you think might be interesting to try given the changes in production over the years, and some of the stuff that's been discontinued would be very interesting. Ultimately, though, I don't really get collecting booze, the whole point is to enjoy it, and being stuck in a bottle, even if it is held by three symbolic hands, somewhat serves as a barrier to that.
I looked it up and it's been bottled at 41.6%
The Angels' Share is something I find interesting, a lot depends on the conditions in which the cask is kept. Signatory sell a lot of cask strength whisky, some of their 30 year olds are still around the 60% mark, it's usually put in the barrel at about 63% iirc.
As for the age statement, you're only allowed to declare the youngest whisky in the bottle, ie if a bottle is made up of several whiskies from the distiller and the youngest is 12 years old, that is what has to go on the from of the bottle.
However, this is a single cask.
Nowadays 63% is fairly standard but back in the 40s and 50s it was often 75-80%.