NPR

Introduce PPV for non televised games (£5 per game or £7 per round). As someone following a team that are never on TV, this is a step in the right direction. Fine paying a fiver to watch the game for a high quality reliable stream.

That's pretty damn expensive...

Margin__Walker wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:22 am Introduce PPV for non televised games (£5 per game or £7 per round). As someone following a team that are never on TV, this is a step in the right direction. Fine paying a fiver to watch the game for a high quality reliable stream.

That is a interesting move. I wonder how the money will be split on the £5 per game. 50:50 to the 2 teams or put into a big pot and split between all the teams.

Time to put my money where my mouth is and support this.

Wont be getting my cash, will stick with BT coverage.

I guess the £6.99 for the round isn't so bad, but £5 for one is quite high compared to a lot of subscription services. I assume the price point has been set to try and get people to pay, but not stay away from the stadium.

Wonder if a season pass will be released, that'd be of interest.

Raggs wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:27 am That's pretty damn expensive...

It's between £11 and £15 + travekl costs to go watch a film at my nearest cinema. That's 1.5 - 2 hours of entertainment, a comparable amount to a rugby game. £5 seems like alright value to me.

Raggs wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:27 am That's pretty damn expensive...

It's the cost of a pint these days. Gives people the option at least. Streaming via our Russian friends has been reasonably reliable this year.

Personally I'd pay to not worry about a stream dropping or starting to freeze etc. Also puts a bit of money back into the game, supports the clubs to some degree.

ASMO wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:27 am Wont be getting my cash, will stick with BT coverage.

This is for games not on BT in any given game week.

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:30 am

Raggs wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:27 am That's pretty damn expensive...

It's between £11 and £15 + travekl costs to go watch a film at my nearest cinema. That's 1.5 - 2 hours of entertainment, a comparable amount to a rugby game. £5 seems like alright value to me.

Bloody hell you live a long way away from the cinema! We're lucky enough to have a little family run one, about 25 minutes walk away, less than £5 for a ticket too.

The more I think on the price, the more I think it's probably OK, but looking at services like netflix/disney+/amazon prime etc, it still looks slightly high.

If they do a season pass, that might swing it though.

And of course, if a share of the cash goes to the teams playing.

Not that I wish to fund English rugby but I’d happily pay a fiver to watch a game if only to see how our various Welsh boys are getting on.

Raggs wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:27 am That's pretty damn expensive...

Strong disagree - that's very reasonable compared to other PPV events, cinemas or going to the games.

Season Pass will be available for next season apparently Raggs.

Will probably be the sort of thing that's value for money for a Newcastle/Worcester/LI fan, but less so for a Quins/Leicester/Sarries fan, as there is a huge disparity on how often clubs are televised on BT.

Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:43 am

Raggs wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:27 am That's pretty damn expensive...

Strong disagree - that's very reasonable compared to other PPV events, cinemas or going to the games.

Jiffy, Stuart Barnes and Gordon Darcy being lined up to be commentators supported by Healey and Dallaglio god i hope not that would be a nightmare.

Raggs wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:35 am

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:30 am

Raggs wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:27 am That's pretty damn expensive...

It's between £11 and £15 + travekl costs to go watch a film at my nearest cinema. That's 1.5 - 2 hours of entertainment, a comparable amount to a rugby game. £5 seems like alright value to me.

Bloody hell you live a long way away from the cinema! We're lucky enough to have a little family run one, about 25 minutes walk away, less than £5 for a ticket too.

The more I think on the price, the more I think it's probably OK, but looking at services like netflix/disney+/amazon prime etc, it still looks slightly high.

If they do a season pass, that might swing it though.

And of course, if a share of the cash goes to the teams playing.

I'm actually only a 20 minute train ride, 25 minute drive away! Parking or train fares are mental though. We just don't have any choice in the area, so the local Odeon can pretty much price how they want. Cinema pricing might not be the best comparison as it is crazy variable depending on where you are, what your local chain is, whether your local is an independent etc., but it's often my yardstick for entertainment pricing.

Digital renting films might be more apt and I tend to find that anything fairly current is between £4 and £10 via Chilli or Rakuten (I'm avoiding Amazon) depending on what it is.

Raggs wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:29 am I guess the £6.99 for the round isn't so bad, but £5 for one is quite high compared to a lot of subscription services. I assume the price point has been set to try and get people to pay, but not stay away from the stadium.

Wonder if a season pass will be released, that'd be of interest.

It's better than the football where, for example, an iFollow one game pass is a tenner AND the football restrictions designed to keep physical attendances up mean you can't get many games anyway.

Surely one has to compare the price with going to a match, not a film or whatever.

Raggs wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:27 am That's pretty damn expensive...

Football games for my Championship club are a tenner to stream.

GogLais wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:53 am Surely one has to compare the price with going to a match, not a film or whatever.

I think it's primarily for those people who wouldn't be able to go to a match for whatever reason, so viewing it as comparable to other home entertainment is valid. Accordingly I amended my example to renting a film rather than going to the cinema in a subsequent post. £5 is about par or even decent value for doing that with any current release.

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:55 am

GogLais wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:53 am Surely one has to compare the price with going to a match, not a film or whatever.

I think it's primarily for those people who wouldn't be able to go to a match for whatever reason, so viewing it as comparable to other home entertainment is valid. Accordingly I amended my example to renting a film rather than going to the cinema in a subsequent post. £5 is about par or even decent value for doing that with any current release.

Yeah, the digital entertainment comparison is fair.

If I lived locally, I'd attend the games as it's a completely different experience you're paying for.

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:55 am

GogLais wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:53 am Surely one has to compare the price with going to a match, not a film or whatever.

I think it's primarily for those people who wouldn't be able to go to a match for whatever reason, so viewing it as comparable to other home entertainment is valid. Accordingly I amended my example to renting a film rather than going to the cinema in a subsequent post. £5 is about par or even decent value for doing that with any current release.

Each to their own. For me the choice would be either trekking over to Sale, which I’m not going to do, or paying a fiver to watch them at home.

On a Saturday afternoon I wouldn’t think shall I watch rugby or a film.

GogLais wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:16 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:55 am

GogLais wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:53 am Surely one has to compare the price with going to a match, not a film or whatever.

I think it's primarily for those people who wouldn't be able to go to a match for whatever reason, so viewing it as comparable to other home entertainment is valid. Accordingly I amended my example to renting a film rather than going to the cinema in a subsequent post. £5 is about par or even decent value for doing that with any current release.

Each to their own. For me the choice would be either trekking over to Sale, which I’m not going to do, or paying a fiver to watch them at home.

On a Saturday afternoon I wouldn’t think shall I watch rugby or a film.

For me, it's a fair comparison. There's basically only a limited amount of time I will spend in front of the TV over the course of a weekend.

That's not bad to be honest. There's a few weekends where the £7 would get you two or three games.

I'm assuming that ITV's other live matches will be after the Six Nations - which would mean three of the remaining four rounds having a live game on council telly.

Just wish either BBC, ITV C4 or 5 would do something to get one match from each round of the Heineken as well. Of, and BBC Scotland to pull their finger out of their arse and get even half a dozen games from the URC.

GogLais wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:16 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:55 am

GogLais wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:53 am Surely one has to compare the price with going to a match, not a film or whatever.

I think it's primarily for those people who wouldn't be able to go to a match for whatever reason, so viewing it as comparable to other home entertainment is valid. Accordingly I amended my example to renting a film rather than going to the cinema in a subsequent post. £5 is about par or even decent value for doing that with any current release.

Each to their own. For me the choice would be either trekking over to Sale, which I’m not going to do, or paying a fiver to watch them at home.

On a Saturday afternoon I wouldn’t think shall I watch rugby or a film.

That's fair, it's not necessarily that I would choose the same time of day to watch a film or rugby, but I run pretty much all my entertainment via my computer, so watching rugby or a film is physically the same thing of being sat at the desk and so it feels like a natural comparison to make.

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:30 am

Raggs wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:27 am That's pretty damn expensive...

It's between £11 and £15 + travekl costs to go watch a film at my nearest cinema. That's 1.5 - 2 hours of entertainment, a comparable amount to a rugby game. £5 seems like alright value to me.

Unless Bath are playing.

geordie_6 wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:54 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:30 am

Raggs wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:27 am That's pretty damn expensive...

It's between £11 and £15 + travekl costs to go watch a film at my nearest cinema. That's 1.5 - 2 hours of entertainment, a comparable amount to a rugby game. £5 seems like alright value to me.

Unless Bath are playing.

I was pretty entertained when Wasps beat them this weekend

By way of comparison, the NFL do what they call game pass. Most expensive package was £149.99 this year. For that you get:
- access all year round from 1st July I think. It then decreases in cost over the season it is currently very cheap.
- every NFL game live except the 6pm and 9pm Sunday sky games.
- access to every game, a condensed 40min version (all adverts deleted) or highlights within 24hrs. They also do "coaches film" which shows the game from the end zone high up.
- access to every game over the last 10 seasons.
- NFL network including the draft etc.
- Red zone
- NFL programmes on demand.

Rugby is so far behind on things like this. Given how much input CVC has there really should be a rugby equivalent, it would be hugely popular.

Biffer wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:36 pm That's not bad to be honest. There's a few weekends where the £7 would get you two or three games.

I'm assuming that ITV's other live matches will be after the Six Nations - which would mean three of the remaining four rounds having a live game on council telly.

Just wish either BBC, ITV C4 or 5 would do something to get one match from each round of the Heineken as well. Of, and BBC Scotland to pull their finger out of their arse and get even half a dozen games from the URC.

C4 has been showing a game per round from the Champions Cup this season.