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UAE Team Emirates

POGAČAR Tadej
BENNETT George
BJERG Mikkel
TRENTIN Matteo
LAENGEN Vegard Stake
MAJKA Rafał
MCNULTY Brandon
SOLER Marc

Jumbo-Visma

ROGLIČ Primož
BENOOT Tiesj
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
KUSS Sepp
LAPORTE Christophe
VAN AERT Wout
VAN HOOYDONCK Nathan
VINGEGAARD Jonas

INEOS Grenadiers

THOMAS Geraint
CASTROVIEJO Jonathan
GANNA Filippo
KWIATKOWSKI Michał
MARTÍNEZ Daniel Felipe
PIDCOCK Thomas
ROWE Luke
YATES Adam

AG2R Citroën Team

O'CONNOR Ben
BOUCHARD Geoffrey
CHEREL Mikaël
COSNEFROY Benoît
DEWULF Stan
NAESEN Oliver
PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien
JUNGELS Bob

BORA - hansgrohe

VLASOV Aleksandr
BENNETT Sam
KÄMNA Lennard
KONRAD Patrick
MULLEN Ryan
POLITT Nils
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
VAN POPPEL Danny

Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl Team

LAMPAERT Yves
ASGREEN Kasper
CATTANEO Mattia
DECLERCQ Tim
BAGIOLI Andrea
HONORÉ Mikkel Frølich
JAKOBSEN Fabio
MØRKØV Michael

Movistar Team

MAS Enric
VERONA Carlos
ERVITI Imanol
GARCÍA CORTINA Iván
IZAGIRRE Gorka
JORGENSON Matteo
MÜHLBERGER Gregor
OLIVEIRA Nelson

Cofidis

MARTIN Guillaume
COQUARD Bryan
GESCHKE Simon
IZAGIRRE Ion
LAFAY Victor
PEREZ Anthony
THOMAS Benjamin
WALSCHEID Max

Bahrain - Victorious

CARUSO Damiano
GRADEK Kamil
HAIG Jack
MOHORIČ Matej
SÁNCHEZ Luis León
TEUNS Dylan
TRATNIK Jan
WRIGHT Fred

Groupama - FDJ

GAUDU David
DUCHESNE Antoine
GENIETS Kevin
KÜNG Stefan
LE GAC Olivier
MADOUAS Valentin
PINOT Thibaut
STORER Michael

Alpecin-Deceuninck

VAN DER POEL Mathieu
DILLIER Silvan
GOGL Michael
MEURISSE Xandro
PHILIPSEN Jasper
PLANCKAERT Edward
SBARAGLI Kristian
VAN KEIRSBULCK Guillaume

Team DSM

BARDET Romain
DAINESE Alberto
DEGENKOLB John
EEKHOFF Nils
HAMILTON Chris
LEKNESSUND Andreas
TUSVELD Martijn
VERMAERKE Kevin
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I'll do one for here as well. Probably more cycling fans on here than on PR.
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1st stage begins Friday :

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Really disappointed for Cavendish not being in the team. Hoped he'd get a chance to take the record for stage wins.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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EnergiseR2 wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:18 pm No Irish riders. Hope Bora are shite. I was going to.say crash and burn but that would be a little much
Yep disappointed neither Sam or Mullan are in this. Sam has had a very difficult season
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If Pinot could find his 2019 form, I would say that FDJ had a strong lineup to chase a podium, but Pinot himself said he will only be chasing stage victories. Gaudu and Storer are not strong enough climbers to chase a podium either. So I guess FDJ will focus on the polka jersey and stage victories. Maybe Gaudu will try a top 10 finish.

Bardet seemed in fine form on the Giro. Wonder in which form he is now. Another rider who will chase stage victories for France I imagine.

You can add Coquard to that lot.
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What the fuck are Quickstep up to? They have the reigning green jersey winner, the French national road race champion and the World road race champion under contract. None of them picked for the TdF team.

I hope they have a really shit tour.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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French police already got started - with a search at Bahrain team quarters.
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Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:46 am What the fuck are Quickstep up to? They have the reigning green jersey winner, the French national road race champion and the World road race champion under contract. None of them picked for the TdF team.

I hope they have a really shit tour.
Alaphillipe is no real surprise given his recent injuries but Cavendish really is a head scratcher given what is on the line and the potential publicity the team would get. Quite clearly a team looking for stage wins and there really isn't that much between him and Jakobsen, other than a huge amount of experience.
Those in the know are saying the Belgium team were heavily pressured not to beat Merckx record.
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Florian Sénéchal is replacing Tim Declercq in Quickstep ... (Covid)
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laurent wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:53 am Florian Sénéchal is replacing Tim Declercq in Quickstep ... (Covid)
What. It was heavily reported that Cav was first reserve.
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Blackmac wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:50 pm
laurent wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:53 am Florian Sénéchal is replacing Tim Declercq in Quickstep ... (Covid)
What. It was heavily reported that Cav was first reserve.
Seriously it's likely better to have the French champion on for the tour.
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laurent wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:01 pm
Blackmac wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:50 pm
laurent wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:53 am Florian Sénéchal is replacing Tim Declercq in Quickstep ... (Covid)
What. It was heavily reported that Cav was first reserve.
Seriously it's likely better to have the French champion on for the tour.
It would have been better to have him on from the start. It's quite a baffling team selection all around. It's just odd, when they clearly stated that Cavendish was first reserve, he clearly wasn't.
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Blackmac wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:36 pm
laurent wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:01 pm
Blackmac wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:50 pm

What. It was heavily reported that Cav was first reserve.
Seriously it's likely better to have the French champion on for the tour.
It would have been better to have him on from the start. It's quite a baffling team selection all around. It's just odd, when they clearly stated that Cavendish was first reserve, he clearly wasn't.
Replacing like for like, surely.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Blackmac wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:36 pm
laurent wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:01 pm
Blackmac wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:50 pm

What. It was heavily reported that Cav was first reserve.
Seriously it's likely better to have the French champion on for the tour.
It would have been better to have him on from the start. It's quite a baffling team selection all around. It's just odd, when they clearly stated that Cavendish was first reserve, he clearly wasn't.
I'm pretty sure they said they both were.
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Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:48 pm
Blackmac wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:36 pm
laurent wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:01 pm

Seriously it's likely better to have the French champion on for the tour.
It would have been better to have him on from the start. It's quite a baffling team selection all around. It's just odd, when they clearly stated that Cavendish was first reserve, he clearly wasn't.
Replacing like for like, surely.
I believe so.
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Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:48 pm
Blackmac wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:36 pm
laurent wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:01 pm

Seriously it's likely better to have the French champion on for the tour.
It would have been better to have him on from the start. It's quite a baffling team selection all around. It's just odd, when they clearly stated that Cavendish was first reserve, he clearly wasn't.
Replacing like for like, surely.
Yeah I agree, may be a bit of desperation as I think it is a baffling team selection not to have Cavendish in from the start. Team sponsors are in it for the publicity and Quickstep seem to have foregone the opportunity to have one of the greatest moments in tour history happen in their colours. No one will really give a shit if Jacobsen picks up the odd stage and there really does not seem to be that much between them in form to justify Cav's omission.
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Interesting backdrop to the tour:

https://inrng.com/2022/06/uci-world-tour-28-june/
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TheFrog wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:42 am Interesting backdrop to the tour:

https://inrng.com/2022/06/uci-world-tour-28-june/
Quickstep having a shocker of a season considering they have usually swept up the majority of their points by now.
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Blackmac wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:09 am
Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:48 pm
Blackmac wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:36 pm

It would have been better to have him on from the start. It's quite a baffling team selection all around. It's just odd, when they clearly stated that Cavendish was first reserve, he clearly wasn't.
Replacing like for like, surely.
Yeah I agree, may be a bit of desperation as I think it is a baffling team selection not to have Cavendish in from the start. Team sponsors are in it for the publicity and Quickstep seem to have foregone the opportunity to have one of the greatest moments in tour history happen in their colours. No one will really give a shit if Jacobsen picks up the odd stage and there really does not seem to be that much between them in form to justify Cav's omission.
Do you know Jacobsen's back story? Him winning a stage would be huge.
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clydecloggie wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:07 am
Blackmac wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:09 am
Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:48 pm

Replacing like for like, surely.
Yeah I agree, may be a bit of desperation as I think it is a baffling team selection not to have Cavendish in from the start. Team sponsors are in it for the publicity and Quickstep seem to have foregone the opportunity to have one of the greatest moments in tour history happen in their colours. No one will really give a shit if Jacobsen picks up the odd stage and there really does not seem to be that much between them in form to justify Cav's omission.
Do you know Jacobsen's back story? Him winning a stage would be huge.
Not as huge as breaking Eddy Merckx's record.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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From team Bahrain Victorious:
Following the [French] police search into some staff and riders’ homes on Monday, the Team Bahrain Victorious hotel was searched by Danish Police at the request of the French Prosecutors this morning at 5:30 a.m.,” the team wrote in a statement on Thursday.
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Biffer wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:22 am
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:07 am
Blackmac wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:09 am

Yeah I agree, may be a bit of desperation as I think it is a baffling team selection not to have Cavendish in from the start. Team sponsors are in it for the publicity and Quickstep seem to have foregone the opportunity to have one of the greatest moments in tour history happen in their colours. No one will really give a shit if Jacobsen picks up the odd stage and there really does not seem to be that much between them in form to justify Cav's omission.
Do you know Jacobsen's back story? Him winning a stage would be huge.
Not as huge as breaking Eddy Merckx's record.
World famous in the UK, eh?

Cav is a feel good story for you Brits and it's understandable you'd be miffed at your favourite missing a start... but it's time to let it go.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:06 am
Biffer wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:22 am
clydecloggie wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:07 am

Do you know Jacobsen's back story? Him winning a stage would be huge.
Not as huge as breaking Eddy Merckx's record.
World famous in the UK, eh?

Cav is a feel good story for you Brits and it's understandable you'd be miffed at your favourite missing a start... but it's time to let it go.
Right, a cyclist breaking the record for most stage wins is a non story outside parochial little Britain.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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clydecloggie wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:07 am
Blackmac wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:09 am
Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:48 pm

Replacing like for like, surely.
Yeah I agree, may be a bit of desperation as I think it is a baffling team selection not to have Cavendish in from the start. Team sponsors are in it for the publicity and Quickstep seem to have foregone the opportunity to have one of the greatest moments in tour history happen in their colours. No one will really give a shit if Jacobsen picks up the odd stage and there really does not seem to be that much between them in form to justify Cav's omission.
Do you know Jacobsen's back story? Him winning a stage would be huge.
Of course I do, but it would pale into insignificance compared to Cavendish getting the record.
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Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:14 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:40 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:06 am

World famous in the UK, eh?

Cav is a feel good story for you Brits and it's understandable you'd be miffed at your favourite missing a start... but it's time to let it go.
Right, a cyclist breaking the record for most stage wins is a non story outside parochial little Britain.
Guy Smiley is right.
Don’t be ridiculous
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Who is Cavendish?
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Slick wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:47 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:14 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:40 am

Right, a cyclist breaking the record for most stage wins is a non story outside parochial little Britain.
Guy Smiley is right.
Don’t be ridiculous
It would be a big story, but not as big elsewhere as in the UK probably. Likewise, Jakobsen getting a stage win would be a major story in the Netherlands and Belgium but probably not in the UK.
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clydecloggie wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:01 am
Slick wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:47 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:14 pm
Guy Smiley is right.
Don’t be ridiculous
It would be a big story, but not as big elsewhere as in the UK probably. Likewise, Jakobsen getting a stage win would be a major story in the Netherlands and Belgium but probably not in the UK.
So you are essentially saying that no one other than Slovenians will really give a shit if Pogacar wins his third tour. It's a nonsense argument.
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I was saying…

Get over it.
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So Jakobsen delivers and Quickstep make it 2 out of 2.

Who questioned their selection?
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TheFrog wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:51 pm So Jakobsen delivers and Quickstep make it 2 out of 2.

Who questioned their selection?
I don't think anyone suggested Jacobsen was a poor selection, just an odd one given how much history was on the line.
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Uran stuck again at the back, and he lost 39s because of a fall... not a good start for him.

Pinot lost time as well, but he is not targetting the GC this year.
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Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:05 pm
TheFrog wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:51 pm So Jakobsen delivers and Quickstep make it 2 out of 2.

Who questioned their selection?
I don't think anyone suggested Jacobsen was a poor selection, just an odd one given how much history was on the line.
Don't think it's an odd one. Jakobsen was always going to the Tour (confirmed months ago) and is probably the best current sprinter, so the question was if QS could accommodate a second sprinter, which they decided against.
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Freak victory for Van Aert yesterday who is a solid green Jersey prospect and who could establish a points record I am sure.

Today will be survival mode for most GC contenders, but Pogacar, Roglic and Thomas could do well and put time in the competition here.
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TheFrog wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:28 am Freak victory for Van Aert yesterday who is a solid green Jersey prospect and who could establish a points record I am sure.

Today will be survival mode for most GC contenders, but Pogacar, Roglic and Thomas could do well and put time in the competition here.
Brilliant stage so far.
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It was an amazing stage, Roglic finished with a dislocated shoulder, what a tough guy!


Today was incredible too, and Pogacar has his first stage victory and is already in yellow.
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Stage 11 and the first foray into the Alps...

Jumbo Visma throw the big balls on the line and attack Pogacar, coming away with Yellow for Vingegard and a 2 minute lead, with Pogacar in 3rd just seconds ahead of Thomas.

I slept through this, catching highlights in the morning our time. Tonight might be worth staying up for with another savage day of climbing.

We're lucky, we're seeing an amazing generational change in the peloton.
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Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:38 pm Stage 11 and the first foray into the Alps...

Jumbo Visma throw the big balls on the line and attack Pogacar, coming away with Yellow for Vingegard and a 2 minute lead, with Pogacar in 3rd just seconds ahead of Thomas.

I slept through this, catching highlights in the morning our time. Tonight might be worth staying up for with another savage day of climbing.

We're lucky, we're seeing an amazing generational change in the peloton.
Absolutely amazing stage. I was actually thinking the previous day, when will INEOS thrown their eggs into one basket and start launching attacks but Jumbo just blew that to bits. I hope Pog can recoup and relaunch his challenge.

So far one of the best tours in years.
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Blackmac wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:14 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:38 pm Stage 11 and the first foray into the Alps...

Jumbo Visma throw the big balls on the line and attack Pogacar, coming away with Yellow for Vingegard and a 2 minute lead, with Pogacar in 3rd just seconds ahead of Thomas.

I slept through this, catching highlights in the morning our time. Tonight might be worth staying up for with another savage day of climbing.

We're lucky, we're seeing an amazing generational change in the peloton.
Absolutely amazing stage. I was actually thinking the previous day, when will INEOS thrown their eggs into one basket and start launching attacks but Jumbo just blew that to bits. I hope Pog can recoup and relaunch his challenge.

So far one of the best tours in years.
Missed yesterday unfortunately! I was reading about it this morning though and there was chat about Pogacar getting dehydrated and none of his team mates could get water to him. Isn't his support car allowed to go and give him water?
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