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VAT on orders from EU

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:41 pm
by S/Lt_Phillips
Advice requested:

I ordered a thing from Poland over the internet, and the courier has been in touch to say there are additional fees for duty and VAT to pay because we're not in the EU anymore. I was expecting this, so this is not a moan about that (but hey, taking back control and blue passports make it all worthwhile!**).

Question: as the price paid for the thing included VAT for Poland, but it's being exported, can I claim that VAT back? I've done this with items I've bought when actually abroad (USA & Canada) by getting a form processed at the airport on the way home. Is there a way to do the same for exports from the EU when they've been ordered online & posted?

TIA

** For the avoidance of doubt - this is sarcasm.

Re: VAT on orders from EU

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:01 pm
by Torquemada 1420
The answer is no unless you are a VAT registered business and meet other qualifying criteria.

There is some weird sh*t called the EU Directive Process which, I think, can apply to individuals but it's bound to be a nightmare to apply. It'd need to be a big transaction before I'd even bother looking into details!

Re: VAT on orders from EU

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:48 pm
by S/Lt_Phillips
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:01 pm The answer is no unless you are a VAT registered business and meet other qualifying criteria.

There is some weird sh*t called the EU Directive Process which, I think, can apply to individuals but it's bound to be a nightmare to apply. It'd need to be a big transaction before I'd even bother looking into details!
Bugger. Oh well, thanks for the response anyway!

Re: VAT on orders from EU

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:00 pm
by Tichtheid
Aye, that's another Brexit bonus right enough.

A friend is a one man band (scuse the pun) guitar maker. He doesn't make enough to be VAT registered. He reckons about a third of his customers are in the EU, so his prices have increased by 20% for that third. These hand-made bespoke instruments sell for between £5 & 8K, so 20% is a large leap.

Brexit, shafting UK businesses large and small since 2016.

Re: VAT on orders from EU

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:58 am
by Glaston
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:00 pm Aye, that's another Brexit bonus right enough.



Brexit, shafting UK businesses large and small since 2016.
"UK Goods exports to the EU reached £16.4bn in April 2022, their highest level in current prices since the series began in 1997."

Re: VAT on orders from EU

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:14 am
by Tichtheid
Glaston wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:58 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:00 pm Aye, that's another Brexit bonus right enough.



Brexit, shafting UK businesses large and small since 2016.
"UK Goods exports to the EU reached £16.4bn in April 2022, their highest level in current prices since the series began in 1997."

From what I can gather that figure is mainly due to fuel exports, which are first imported to the UK from countries like Qatar, the need being driven due to the situation in Ukraine.
It's not sustainable and not due to any post-Brexit trade wizardry on the part of the government.

Re: VAT on orders from EU

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:23 am
by SaintK
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:14 am
Glaston wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:58 am
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:00 pm Aye, that's another Brexit bonus right enough.



Brexit, shafting UK businesses large and small since 2016.
"UK Goods exports to the EU reached £16.4bn in April 2022, their highest level in current prices since the series began in 1997."

From what I can gather that figure is mainly due to fuel exports, which are first imported to the UK from countries like Qatar, the need being driven due to the situation in Ukraine.
It's not sustainable and not due to any post-Brexit trade wizardry on the part of the government.
I'm sure there's an "expert" on this matter posting on PR heading for his 100,000th post :bimbo: :bimbo: :bimbo:

Re: VAT on orders from EU

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:28 am
by Tichtheid
SaintK wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:23 am
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:14 am
Glaston wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:58 am

"UK Goods exports to the EU reached £16.4bn in April 2022, their highest level in current prices since the series began in 1997."

From what I can gather that figure is mainly due to fuel exports, which are first imported to the UK from countries like Qatar, the need being driven due to the situation in Ukraine.
It's not sustainable and not due to any post-Brexit trade wizardry on the part of the government.
I'm sure there's an "expert" on this matter posting on PR heading for his 100,000th post :bimbo: :bimbo: :bimbo:
I don't have access to the cesspit anymore since they made it "registered users only"

It's a shame they didn't think to use the reserves to keep fuel prices down for us here in the UK

Re: VAT on orders from EU

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:43 am
by Ymx
I think the lack of storage is the problem.

Export tax on fuel might help some find storage infrastructure. Though I expect that’s impossible with free trade agreements. Ha ha.

Re: VAT on orders from EU

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:27 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Ymx wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:43 am I think the lack of storage is the problem.

Export tax on fuel might help some find storage infrastructure. Though I expect that’s impossible with free trade agreements. Ha ha.
There is no storage for anything.
- None for petrol.
- F**k all for gas. Even the Italians have some multiple of tens more storage than the UK.
- None for electricity. Was talking with a reserve power operator 2 weeks ago and its income has trebled over the last year as it is running near continuously.

This is the UK in a nutshell. No industry. No infrastructure. No idea.