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Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:58 pm
by Torquemada 1420

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:10 pm
by Longshanks
Disturbing incident.
The suggestion the entire Metropolitan Police Service is responsible, might be pushing it a bit

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:45 pm
by .OverThere
Longshanks wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:10 pm Disturbing incident.
The suggestion the entire Metropolitan Police Service is responsible, might be pushing it a bit
It would be shocking then if he uses a defence, "this is what I was taught in training".

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:24 am
by Blackmac
Looks very difficult to justify. Can't imagine what the hell he was thinking.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:39 am
by C69
Just watched the gideo on the Telegraph's site.
It's not that bad imho, however in todays climate the thick twat will be suspended for a long time and may lose his job.
He will have the racist epithet follow him around for years if not for ever.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:47 am
by ScarfaceClaw
It’s good of the article to make the explicit point that the bloke being arrested was black.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:06 am
by Glaston
Good ole BBC never change


FFS ""I was worried he was going to get executed"

What utter utter bollocks

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:12 am
by Blackmac
Glaston wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:06 am Good ole BBC never change


FFS ""I was worried he was going to get executed"

What utter utter bollocks
Yeah, they have a quite incredible agenda against the police at the moment. Photoshopping weapons out of BLM protestors hands was a particularly sinister moment.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:23 am
by ScarfaceClaw
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:12 am
Glaston wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:06 am Good ole BBC never change


FFS ""I was worried he was going to get executed"

What utter utter bollocks
Yeah, they have a quite incredible agenda against the police at the moment. Photoshopping weapons out of BLM protestors hands was a particularly sinister moment.
What?

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:53 am
by Lemoentjie
The force confirmed it had charged a 45-year-old man with possession of a knife in a public place.
I'm sure he's a good upstanding citizen of the UK

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:59 am
by EnergiseR
Here Bimbo you can have a chat about the Jews again

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:33 am
by New guy
ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:23 am
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:12 am
Glaston wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:06 am Good ole BBC never change


FFS ""I was worried he was going to get executed"

What utter utter bollocks
Yeah, they have a quite incredible agenda against the police at the moment. Photoshopping weapons out of BLM protestors hands was a particularly sinister moment.
What?
There was a very carefully cropped photo of a "protestor" swinging a plank of wood at the police officer.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:58 am
by Openside
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:12 am
Glaston wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:06 am Good ole BBC never change


FFS ""I was worried he was going to get executed"

What utter utter bollocks
Yeah, they have a quite incredible agenda against the police at the moment. Photoshopping weapons out of BLM protestors hands was a particularly sinister moment.
The BBC did that? That is appalling.

I have no problem the police kneeling on someone’s neck to subdue them, obviously not for an extended period however if you want to be treated gently stop fucking resisting.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:12 am
by Line6 HXFX
Funny things you see in society these days, exactly what happens when you give people who are lowly paid and miserable as sin any power.
We live in a nation of wall to wall resent'tards, meanspirited finger jabbers, who wouldn't be out of place on the towers of Belsin... contained only by the fact you used to be able to scream fuck off at them.
Now you can't, now they can get away with it. You Walk into a supermarket and the workers (sorry key workers) love nothing more than flexing their authority.

Can you step back please sir!!!

But you was just hugging your colleague, right there just now. You sure she's alright? Oh , and this stuff is in the air, hanging like a death cloud for hours, indoors, and I am the only one of us wearing a mask, (OK two masks). Right, I'll step back.. feel better?

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:56 am
by CrazyIslander
Line6 HXFX wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:12 am Funny things you see in society these days, exactly what happens when you give people who are lowly paid and miserable as sin any power.
We live in a nation of wall to wall resent'tards, meanspirited finger jabbers, who wouldn't be out of place on the towers of Belsin... contained only by the fact you used to be able to scream fuck off at them.
Now you can't, now they can get away with it. You Walk into a supermarket and the workers (sorry key workers) love nothing more than flexing their authority.

Can you step back please sir!!!

But you was just hugging your colleague, right there just now. You sure she's alright? Oh , and this stuff is in the air, hanging like a death cloud for hours, indoors, and I am the only one of us wearing a mask, (OK two masks). Right, I'll step back.. feel better?
Perhaps you're just triggered. I reckon the kid at the supermarket is just as pissed off having to tell people what they should already know. They'd probably rather be sonewhere else.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:26 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:12 am
Glaston wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:06 am Good ole BBC never change


FFS ""I was worried he was going to get executed"

What utter utter bollocks
Yeah, they have a quite incredible agenda against the police at the moment. Photoshopping weapons out of BLM protestors hands was a particularly sinister moment.
Seriously?!

Link.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:28 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Openside wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:58 am I have no problem the police kneeling on someone’s neck to subdue them, obviously not for an extended period however if you want to be treated gently stop fucking resisting.
The issue there being if someone is asphyxiating me, I'm going to resist too. [/notQuagmire]

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:52 pm
by Lobby
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:26 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:12 am
Glaston wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:06 am Good ole BBC never change


FFS ""I was worried he was going to get executed"

What utter utter bollocks
Yeah, they have a quite incredible agenda against the police at the moment. Photoshopping weapons out of BLM protestors hands was a particularly sinister moment.
Seriously?!

Link.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters ... r-protest/

Image

The original image is on the right; the cropped image used by the BBC in its report in the BLM protests is on the left.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:20 pm
by Margin__Walker
Any link for the photoshopping of weapons out of protesters hands by the BBC?

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:51 pm
by Ymx
The guy was shouting he can’t breathe multiple times?

Literally shouting.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:18 pm
by notfatcat
Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:20 pm Any link for the photoshopping of weapons out of protesters hands by the BBC?
Indeed, they may well have used a different programme to crop out the weapon. I do all my crops in Lightroom rather than Photoshop.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:19 pm
by Blackmac
Lobby wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:52 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:26 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:12 am

Yeah, they have a quite incredible agenda against the police at the moment. Photoshopping weapons out of BLM protestors hands was a particularly sinister moment.
Seriously?!

Link.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters ... r-protest/

Image

The original image is on the right; the cropped image used by the BBC in its report in the BLM protests is on the left.
I'm not going to waste any time looking for it but there was another image where the weapon was actually photoshopped out. It was quite heavily reported at the time and the BBC apologised.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:23 pm
by Margin__Walker
For something heavily reported, it's pretty hard to find

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:05 pm
by Blackmac
Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:23 pm For something heavily reported, it's pretty hard to find

Clearly you give more of a shit than I do.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:10 pm
by Glaston
Pleads not guilty to carrying a weapon


He was carrying a knife for bicycle repairs.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:53 pm
by Ymx
Glaston wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:10 pm Pleads not guilty to carrying a weapon


He was carrying a knife for bicycle repairs.
Yes bikes can often be fixed with knives.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:41 am
by eldanielfire
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:12 am
Glaston wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:06 am Good ole BBC never change


FFS ""I was worried he was going to get executed"

What utter utter bollocks
Yeah, they have a quite incredible agenda against the police at the moment. Photoshopping weapons out of BLM protestors hands was a particularly sinister moment.
I didn't know they did that. What bollocks. It was bad enough the way they described many BLMs protests as peaceful when they were anything but. No wonder the BBC has ever falling credibility problems with the public.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:25 pm
by Margin__Walker
They didn't do it.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:26 am
by Openside
Ymx wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:51 pm The guy was shouting he can’t breathe multiple times?

Literally shouting.
Well if he was shouting it multiple times he clearly could breathe...

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:32 am
by Longshanks
Openside wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:26 am
Ymx wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:51 pm The guy was shouting he can’t breathe multiple times?

Literally shouting.
Well if he was shouting it multiple times he clearly could breathe...
Whooshed

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:33 am
by Ymx
Openside wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:26 am
Ymx wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:51 pm The guy was shouting he can’t breathe multiple times?

Literally shouting.
Well if he was shouting it multiple times he clearly could breathe...
Yes, my point.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:32 am
by Yeeb
Longshanks wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:32 am
Openside wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:26 am
Ymx wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:51 pm The guy was shouting he can’t breathe multiple times?

Literally shouting.
Well if he was shouting it multiple times he clearly could breathe...
Whooshed
:lol:

Had he not been a para, he would have been a great Met Detective with that brainpower

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:44 am
by Torquemada 1420
Lobby wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:52 pm https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters ... r-protest/

Image

The original image is on the right; the cropped image used by the BBC in its report in the BLM protests is on the left.
Cheers.
"The broadcaster originally showed the image of police behaving aggressively towards people during the protests this weekend."
How TF do either of those pics show the police behaving aggressively?!!

Poor by the beeb regardless.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:46 am
by Torquemada 1420
Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:20 pm Any link for the photoshopping of weapons out of protesters hands by the BBC?
Was thinking the same. There is a difference between cropping and 'shopping. No debate about the intent if the latter occurred.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:39 am
by spike
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:46 am
Margin__Walker wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:20 pm Any link for the photoshopping of weapons out of protesters hands by the BBC?
Was thinking the same. There is a difference between cropping and 'shopping. No debate about the intent if the latter occurred.
IMO the picture has more impact with the stick included :wink: . Cropping or shopping the intent is clear. It's a bit worrying because the BBC tends to be my main news resource. I expect some impartiality at least.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:52 pm
by dantedelew
Blackmac wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:19 pm
Lobby wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:52 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:26 pm

Seriously?!

Link.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters ... r-protest/

Image

The original image is on the right; the cropped image used by the BBC in its report in the BLM protests is on the left.
I'm not going to waste any time looking for it but there was another image where the weapon was actually photoshopped out. It was quite heavily reported at the time and the BBC apologised.
Big claim + no evidence = not true.

Re: Good ole Met. Never change.

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:58 am
by Hugo
I just watched the video on this and it did not live up to the hype. The ridiculous sensationalism of stuff like this makes you realise that politicians and the media have created a climate which makes it very difficult for police officers to do their jobs.

On the one hand they say (as David Lammy did last Friday) that the govt needs to do more to address knife crime. Then, when cops apprehend a guy with a knife and it doesnt go quite according to plan opportunists like Sadiq Khan and Corbyn seize the chance to make political capital out of it and to throw the officer under the bus. The four star general at the Met put the boot in also.

Based on this, the interventions of the general public at the time of the incident and the subsequent protests afterward the police are quite obviously operating with very little visible, moral or tangible support. As a police officer in the era of the smart phone you are one bad interaction with a black person away from having your career and reputation ruined.