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Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:35 pm**

The Rugby Championship - W1 - 8 July : SA v Aus / Arg v NZ

Times in BST

SA v Aus (4.05pm BST, 5.05pm SA time, 3.05am Sun NZT, 12.05am Sun Japan Time)

Arg v NZ (8.10pm BST, 9.10pm SA time, 7.10am Sun NZT, 4.05am Sun Japan Time)

Match day team links

Springboks team
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Wallabies team

Pumas team
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All blacks team

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Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:44 pm**

All Black TRC squad

New Zealand

Hookers:

Codie Taylor (32, Crusaders / Canterbury, 76)
Dane Coles (36, Hurricanes / Wellington, 84)
Samisoni Taukei’aho (25, Chiefs / Waikato, 24)

Props:

Ethan de Groot (24, Highlanders / Southland, 13)
Fletcher Newell (23, Crusaders / Canterbury, 6)
Nepo Laulala (31, Blues / Counties Manukau, 45)
Ofa Tu’ungafasi (31, Blues / Northland, 50)
Tamaiti Williams (22, Crusaders / Canterbury, *)
Tyrel Lomax (27, Hurricanes / Tasman, 23)

Locks:

Brodie Retallick (32, Chiefs / Hawkes Bay, 100)
Josh Lord (22, Chiefs / Taranaki, 2)
Samuel Whitelock (34, Crusaders / Canterbury, 143)
Scott Barrett (29, Crusaders / Taranaki, 58)
Tupou Vaa’i (23, Chiefs / Taranaki, 18)

Loose forwards:

Ardie Savea (29, Hurricanes / Wellington, 70)
Dalton Papali’i (25, Blues / Counties Manukau, 22)
Luke Jacobson (26, Chiefs / Waikato, 12)
Sam Cane (captain) (31, Chiefs / Bay of Plenty, 86)
Samipeni Finau (24, Chiefs / Waikato, *)
Shannon Frizell (29, Highlanders / Tasman, 25)

Halfbacks:

Aaron Smith (34, Highlanders / Manawatu, 114)
Finlay Christie (27, Blues / Tasman, 14)
Cam Roigard (22, Hurricanes / Counties Manukau, *)

First-five eighths:

Beauden Barrett (32, Blues / Taranaki, 112)
Damian McKenzie (28, Chiefs / Waikato, 40)
Richie Mo’unga (29, Crusaders / Canterbury, 44)

Midfielders:

Anton Lienert-Brown (28, Chiefs / Waikato, 60)
Jordie Barrett (26, Hurricanes / Taranaki, 48)
Rieko Ioane (26, Blues / Auckland, 59)
Braydon Ennor (25, Crusaders / Canterbury, 6)
Dallas McLeod (24, Crusaders / Canterbury, *)

Outside backs:

Caleb Clarke (24, Blues / Auckland, 15)
Emoni Narawa (23, Chiefs / Bay of Plenty, *)
Leicester Fainga’anuku (23, Crusaders / Tasman, 2)
Mark Telea (26, Blues / North Harbour, 2)
Will Jordan (25, Crusaders / Tasman, 21)

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:45 pm**

Springbok Rugby Championship training squad:
Props: Thomas du Toit (Sharks), Steven Kitshoff (Stormers), Vincent Koch (Stade Francais), Frans Malherbe (Stormers), Ox Nche (Sharks), Trevor Nyakane (Racing 92)

Hookers: Joseph Dweba (Stormers), Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Sharks)

Locks: Lood de Jager (Wild Knights), Eben Etzebeth (Sharks), Marvin Orie (Stormers), RG Snyman & Jean Kleyn (Munster)

Loose Forwards: Pieter-Steph du Toit (Verblitz), Siya Kolisi (Sharks), Evan Roos (Stormers), Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs), Marco van Staden (Bulls), Duane Vermeulen (N/A), Jasper Wiese (Leicester)

Utility Forwards: Jean-Luc du Preez (Sale Sharks), Deon Fourie (Stormers), Franco Mostert (Honda Heat)

Scrumhalves: Faf de Klerk (Canon Eagles), Jaden Hendrikse (Sharks), Herschel Jantjies (Stormers), Cobus Reinach (Montpellier), Grant Williams (Sharks)

Flyhalves: Manie Libbok (Stormers), Handre Pollard (Leicester), Damian Willemse (Stormers)

Centres: Lukhanyo Am (Sharks), Damian de Allende (Wild Knights), Andre Esterhuizen (Harlequins), Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles)

Outside Backs: Kurt-Lee Arendse (Bulls), Cheslin Kolbe (Toulon), Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz), Makazole Mapimpi (Sharks), Canan Moodie (Bulls)

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:47 pm**

Thanks Oom!

My memory is going. You didn’t already have a thread did you. It suddenly occurred to me you might have.

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:51 pm**

Springboks will split in two squads for Wallabies and All Blacks tests
SA Rugby

Springboks set to repeat 2019 squad split

Springbok coach Jacques Nienaber said the Boks intend repeating the plan that saw them clinch the Castle Lager Rugby Championship title in 2019 by splitting the squad for the opening two Tests of the competition as they zoom in on the southern hemisphere showpiece.

This will see a group of players and management members travel to Auckland the week of the opening Test against Australia at Loftus Versfeld (on Saturday 8 July) to acclimatise and get their preparations underway for the second Test, a week later against New Zealand at Mount Smart Stadium (Saturday 15 July).

This will be followed by the third and final Test of the shortened version of the tournament two weeks later against Argentina at Emirates Airline Park in Johannesburg ( Saturday 29 July).

“We have a pretty good idea about how we want to split the squad for the Castle Lager Rugby Championship, but a lot needs to happen before we make a call on selection,” said Nienaber.

“We’ll probably make a decision the week before the Australia Test. As we mentioned last week, we are not selecting A and B sides. We are doing something similar to what we did in 2019 by selecting a team that is good enough to beat Australia at Loftus Versfeld.”

SA Rugby Director of Rugby Rassie Erasmus and Nienaber were also pleased to have flyhalf Elton Jantjies back in the mix and said his experience was valuable for the team.

“A big benefit of having Elton in the squad is that there is no rush for Handre (Pollard) and Damian (Willemse) to hurry their injuries,” said Erasmus.

“They can take their time and heal properly. That said, there’s a good chance that Damian will be cleared (medically) next week.”

Erasmus added: “Elton has close to 50 Test caps and in 2020 he was named SANZAARs South African Super Rugby Player of the Decade, so there isn’t much he still has to learn. He also helps the young players on the field, so he’s a valuable player.”

With the Springboks entering the second week of their Castle Lager Rugby Championship training camp, Nienaber said there was a fantastic atmosphere in the squad: “The energy in the squad is good and the players are working hard to build on the foundation we laid last week. We still have a lot of work to do, but we are on a good trajectory.”

Nienaber also revealed that leading South African referee Jaco Peyper – who is on the match official panel for the Rugby World Cup – is currently with the team to assist them in their interpretation of the laws of the game.

“One of the additions to our camp this week is that we brought in Jaco Peyper to assist us to keep up to date with the laws of the game, so know we are on the right track,” said Nienaber.

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:53 pm**

Ymx wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:47 pm Thanks Oom!

My memory is going. You didn’t already have a thread did you. It suddenly occurred to me you might have.

No problems, we'll use the tests threads.

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:56 pm**

Ah yeah. I see it below which was the previous years all in one thread.

Ah well … I’m easy with whatever gets used.

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:06 pm**

It’s sounding like the yellow of ALB has been upgraded to a red. So he won’t be available likely …

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:34 pm**

Probably Bok team vs Wallabies
Willie le Roux KL Arendse, Amm, Esterhuizen, Moodie, Libbok, Reinach, Vermeulen, PSdT, Escom, RG Snyman, Kleyn, Tank, Bongi, Ox.

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:50 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:34 pm Probably Bok team vs Wallabies
Willie le Roux KL Arendse, Amm, Esterhuizen, Moodie, Libbok, Reinach, Vermeulen, PSdT, Escom, RG Snyman, Kleyn, Tank, Bongi, Ox.

I like that team.

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:56 pm**

boere wors wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:50 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:34 pm Probably Bok team vs Wallabies
Willie le Roux KL Arendse, Amm, Esterhuizen, Moodie, Libbok, Reinach, Vermeulen, PSdT, Escom, RG Snyman, Kleyn, Tank, Bongi, Ox.
I like that team.

Has even one of them played together in the last 6 months?

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:05 pm**

Ymx wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:06 pm It’s sounding like the yellow of ALB has been upgraded to a red. So he won’t be available likely …

I hope McLeod's OK. Would like to see him get a run against the Pumas.

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:59 am**

Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:56 pm
boere wors wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:50 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:34 pm Probably Bok team vs Wallabies
Willie le Roux KL Arendse, Amm, Esterhuizen, Moodie, Libbok, Reinach, Vermeulen, PSdT, Escom, RG Snyman, Kleyn, Tank, Bongi, Ox.
I like that team.
Has even one of them played together in the last 6 months?

Rg & Kleyn. Bongi & Ox. Arendse & Moodie.

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:10 am**

Gumboot wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:05 pm
Ymx wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:06 pm It’s sounding like the yellow of ALB has been upgraded to a red. So he won’t be available likely …
I hope McLeod's OK. Would like to see him get a run against the Pumas.

He took a nasty clash. I was thinking fracture at the time.

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:22 am**

boere wors wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:59 am
Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:56 pm
boere wors wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:50 pm

I like that team.
Has even one of them played together in the last 6 months?
Rg & Kleyn. Bongi & Ox. Arendse & Moodie.

Am & Esterhuizen maybe not the last 6 months but they played many for the $hark$, Thomas, Bongi, Ox the $hark$ best front row all season.

Willie , Duanne Vermeulen & PSdT is seasoned Boks for many years now.

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:22 am**

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:31 am**

If thats true then team vs NZ hould be
Willemse, Mapimpi, Kriel, Ellendig, Kolbey, Pollard, Faf, Wiese, Franco Mostert, Kwagga, Lood, Etsebeth, Malherbe, Marx, Kitshoff

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:08 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:22 am

5 #9s in there shows we still don't know who is the best we have.

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:22 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:31 am If thats true then team vs NZ hould be
Willemse, Mapimpi, Kriel, Ellendig, Kolbey, Pollard, Faf, Wiese, Franco Mostert, Kwagga, Lood, Etsebeth, Malherbe, Marx, Kitshoff

I would have preferred Am and Kriel to switch squads.

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:23 am**

Sandstorm wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:08 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:22 am
5 #9s in there shows we still don't know who is the best we have.

The best?

More like who is the least kak.

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:34 am**

I can't wait for this match.

The 7 month drought is over.

Posted: **Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:07 pm**

handyman wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:22 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:31 am If thats true then team vs NZ hould be
Willemse, Mapimpi, Kriel, Ellendig, Kolbey, Pollard, Faf, Wiese, Franco Mostert, Kwagga, Lood, Etsebeth, Malherbe, Marx, Kitshoff
I would have preferred Am and Kriel to switch squads.

I preferred Kriel in no squad, maybe from the bench. The only way this can happen if Willemse/Pollard play 12/10 and Ellendig 13. But then they will send the NZ 15 squad before the Wallaby test. Bench will be from the Wallaby test.

Posted: **Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:36 pm**

Pollard all but out of the Rugby Championship. Massive blow.

Posted: **Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:53 pm**

Last years RC was an absolute diamond.

Shame it’s an abbreviated one.

Posted: **Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:05 pm**

handyman wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:36 pm Pollard all but out of the Rugby Championship. Massive blow.

That's a big blow.

But perhaps we need to be forced to give someone else the 10 jersey for a chance to prove themselves.

I see Willemse is fit again.

Posted: **Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:29 am**

assfly wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:34 am I can't wait for this match.

The 7 month drought is over.

It has been far too long, I agree. Same every year but this one seems a longer wait than most.

The games will be so keenly watched as we are all looking for a lead-in to our world cup campaigns. Not sure why, but I am quietly confident.

Posted: **Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:55 am**

Ymx wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:35 pm
Times in BST

SA v Aus (4.05pm BST, 5.05pm SA time, 3.05am Sun NZT) 12.05am Sun Japan Time

Arg v NZ (8.10pm BST, 9.10pm SA time, 7.10am Sun NZT) 04.05am Sun Japan Time

Added kick-off time in my zone.

Posted: **Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:06 am**

Kiwias wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:55 am
Ymx wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:35 pm
Times in BST

SA v Aus (4.05pm BST, 5.05pm SA time, 3.05am Sun NZT) 12.05am Sun Japan Time

Arg v NZ (8.10pm BST, 9.10pm SA time, 7.10am Sun NZT) 04.05am Sun Japan Time

Added kick-off time in my zone.

Ouch !!

Posted: **Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:08 am**

Enzedder wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:29 am
assfly wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:34 am I can't wait for this match.

The 7 month drought is over.
It has been far too long, I agree. Same every year but this one seems a longer wait than most.

The games will be so keenly watched as we are all looking for a lead-in to our world cup campaigns. Not sure why, but I am quietly confident.

Because you have been watching Supe, and have conveniently forgotten about what Foster will reduce our talent to.

Posted: **Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:02 am**

Ymx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:08 am
Enzedder wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:29 am
assfly wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:34 am I can't wait for this match.

The 7 month drought is over.
It has been far too long, I agree. Same every year but this one seems a longer wait than most.

The games will be so keenly watched as we are all looking for a lead-in to our world cup campaigns. Not sure why, but I am quietly confident.
Because you have been watching Supe, and have conveniently forgotten about what Foster will reduce our talent to.

Springboks vs All Blacks always the ultimate clash. Now even more after we gone north.

Posted: **Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:40 am**

It’s going to be a good match, as no doubt the Boks have adapted to the NH style. So they’ve an advantage in playing under both styles (and reffing interpretations), and the fact we have that fat slug Foster.

Posted: **Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:30 pm**

Ymx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:40 am It’s going to be a good match, as no doubt the Boks have adapted to the NH style. So they’ve an advantage in playing under both styles (and reffing interpretations), and the fact we have that fat slug Foster.

Remember the good old days? When Foster had Covid and had to stay away from the team...

Posted: **Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:10 pm**

Grandpa wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:30 pm
Ymx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:40 am It’s going to be a good match, as no doubt the Boks have adapted to the NH style. So they’ve an advantage in playing under both styles (and reffing interpretations), and the fact we have that fat slug Foster.
Remember the good old days? When Foster had Covid and had to stay away from the team...

Covid truly redeemed its popularity after that.

Posted: **Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:19 am**

Ymx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:10 pm
Grandpa wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:30 pm
Ymx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:40 am It’s going to be a good match, as no doubt the Boks have adapted to the NH style. So they’ve an advantage in playing under both styles (and reffing interpretations), and the fact we have that fat slug Foster.
Remember the good old days? When Foster had Covid and had to stay away from the team...
Covid truly redeemed its popularity after that.

Maybe a nice little Foster variant in October... in France... but only in Foster's room...

Will be interesting to see how Australia go in the RC... as I have an awful feeling they'll do well in the World Cup...

Posted: **Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:19 am**

Bok teams to be announce today. Don't think there will be surprises, giving Eddie and Foster more then enough time to plan.

Posted: **Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:40 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:19 am Bok teams to be announce today. Don't think there will be surprises, giving Eddie and Foster more then enough time to plan.

I’ve never understood that. Is it a Rassie thing??

Posted: **Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:45 am**

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:40 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:19 am Bok teams to be announce today. Don't think there will be surprises, giving Eddie and Foster more then enough time to plan.
I’ve never understood that. Is it a Rassie thing??

No it's a Nienaber thing. Rassie use to hold it back to the last minute. Nienaber believe it's better for the players.

Posted: **Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:49 am**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:45 am
Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:40 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:19 am Bok teams to be announce today. Don't think there will be surprises, giving Eddie and Foster more then enough time to plan.
I’ve never understood that. Is it a Rassie thing??
No it's a Nienaber thing. Rassie use to hold it back to the last minute. Nienaber believe it's better for the players.

It’s also better for the likes of Schmidt to formulate a plan.

Why can’t they just hear it in private?

Anyway, it’s good in that it gives us something earlier on our thread …

Posted: **Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:51 am**

NZ plays Argentina away, SA at Mt Smart which is not our favoured ground, Australia in Melbourne at the MCG which as a cricket / AFL oval means the touchline is a looooooong way from the crowd, it's a huge amphitheatre.

Those are our RC games this year. One at home in NZ at League HQ.

It's not hard to see us come away from that lot with one win if we're lucky. A return Bledisloe game later on sees us play Australia under the roof in Dunedin.

The Fozziolis Effect will be particularly strong. In the absence of Will Jordan, for example, I can see him selecting either BB or DMac at 15 in order to leave one of them on the bench to switch out with Mo'unga at the prescribed 60 minute mark regardless of performance...and leaving Shaun Stevenson on the bench until the last 5 minutes before giving him a sympathy cap when the game is lost.

fuck

Posted: **Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:57 am**

Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:49 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:45 am
Ymx wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 6:40 am

I’ve never understood that. Is it a Rassie thing??
No it's a Nienaber thing. Rassie use to hold it back to the last minute. Nienaber believe it's better for the players.
It’s also better for the likes of Schmidt to formulate a plan.

Why can’t they just hear it in private?

Anyway, it’s good in that it gives us something earlier on our thread …

I quite like it, tbh. Gets the opposition thinking about how to counter your game plan much earlier in the week than they might have otherwise. Has it backfired on them yet?

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