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This will be one of several very one sided matches this round!laurent wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:05 pm Thursday 14th 21 PM CET
French squad announced more or less now.
Not even going to bother watching most of it.
I know there are a lot of people (not necessarily on here) who advocate for exapanding the World Cup, but the minnow vs. tier 1 matches last weekend have only hardened my resolve that it's a dumb idea. I doubt this one, South Africa vs. Romania or New Zealand vs. Namibia are going to do much to change that opinion.
Can't spell Tao. Poor man's Boucherie!laurent wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:27 pm Alternate French squad
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There should be a Tier 2 comp for sides (Plate, whatever) for the sides that fall at 1st round.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:56 amI know there are a lot of people (not necessarily on here) who advocate for exapanding the World Cup, but the minnow vs. tier 1 matches last weekend have only hardened my resolve that it's a dumb idea. I doubt this one, South Africa vs. Romania or New Zealand vs. Namibia are going to do much to change that opinion.
Try listening to lapinou saying a PI name then think again.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:30 pmCan't spell Tao. Poor man's Boucherie!laurent wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:27 pm Alternate French squad
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Going to a concert tonight instead. I think it will be more interesting. Might watch on catch up at w/e.
That would have put France out of the main competition at their last home RWC, South Africa would have been out at the first hurdle last time, when they won it, and the time before thatTorquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:31 pm
There should be a Tier 2 comp for sides (Plate, whatever) for the sides that fall at 1st round.
Mate. He means if you don’t make the 1/4 finals. Not lose your opening match.Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:08 pmThat would have put France out of the main competition at their last home RWC, South Africa would have been out at the first hurdle last time, when they won it, and the time before thatTorquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:31 pm
There should be a Tier 2 comp for sides (Plate, whatever) for the sides that fall at 1st round.
Sandstorm wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:22 pmMate. He means if you don’t make the 1/4 finals. Not lose your opening match.Tichtheid wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:08 pmThat would have put France out of the main competition at their last home RWC, South Africa would have been out at the first hurdle last time, when they won it, and the time before thatTorquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:31 pm
There should be a Tier 2 comp for sides (Plate, whatever) for the sides that fall at 1st round.
Probably less of a big deal now with domestic competitions insisting on fewer foreigners, but I suspect the clubs would have objected to that not so long ago. The Prem and Top14 sides getting a raft of Islanders and Georgians plus the odd Yank or Canuck back in the sides after the pool stages was relatively important for league performance while other international stars were away.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:31 pmThere should be a Tier 2 comp for sides (Plate, whatever) for the sides that fall at 1st round.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:56 amI know there are a lot of people (not necessarily on here) who advocate for exapanding the World Cup, but the minnow vs. tier 1 matches last weekend have only hardened my resolve that it's a dumb idea. I doubt this one, South Africa vs. Romania or New Zealand vs. Namibia are going to do much to change that opinion.SaintK wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:25 pm
This will be one of several very one sided matches this round!
Ahh. I see.laurent wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:05 pmTry listening to lapinou saying a PI name then think again.Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:30 pmCan't spell Tao. Poor man's Boucherie!laurent wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:27 pm Alternate French squad
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Going to a concert tonight instead. I think it will be more interesting. Might watch on catch up at w/e.
laurent wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:27 pm Alternate French squad
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Was a bid shocked when I saw the score.Not good, apparently.
Someone else said that on the other thread.
Falling player and arm in front ? it's going nowhereGrandpa wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:19 pm Surely a citing coming up for that abominable bunker non-red?
No change in height.. no mitigation.. even the French on the PR thread think it's a stone cold red... all of them... no dissenters...
Because it's France? If that was a Uruguay player...sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:29 pm I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.
The arm wasn't tucked. Look at the upper arm, it's out wide, the forearm is still coming up, but that's never a tucked arm.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:29 pm I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.
Ok watched it again. The arm is out, but he's still nowhere close to making a legal tackle, so I stand by saying it should be a red because with it not being a legal tackle mitigations don't apply.Raggs wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:45 pmThe arm wasn't tucked. Look at the upper arm, it's out wide, the forearm is still coming up, but that's never a tucked arm.sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:29 pm I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.
There was a drop in height, not major but it's there, the tackler is also bent kneed and well bent at the waist.
You can check my history on how I view high tackles and often call for reds, but in this case I can see how it stays a yellow.
Nah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.Grandpa wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:32 pmBecause it's France? If that was a Uruguay player...sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:29 pm I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.
And yet it's more red than Tom Curry's... at least there was a change in height with that tackle... as he was coming out the sky...sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:50 pmNah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.Grandpa wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:32 pmBecause it's France? If that was a Uruguay player...sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:29 pm I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.
At some stage WR will have to respond to the accusations that it's screwing the tier 2/3 teams in decisions; & they'll probably do it when the consequences are minimal to the tier 1 side; like this !sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:50 pmNah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.Grandpa wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:32 pmBecause it's France? If that was a Uruguay player...sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:29 pm I suspect they'll let it slide, but he was going in with a tucked arm which means it wasn't a legal hit and mitigations don't apply.
I find Curry's completely inexcusable. If looking to tackle someone as soon as they come down from catching a ball, you have no reason to be standing straight and smashing their face with yours..Grandpa wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:54 pmAnd yet it's more red than Tom Curry's... at least there was a change in height with that tackle... as he was coming out the sky...sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:50 pmNah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.
I agree, think it was the reddest so far. Tucked arm, straight to the head.Grandpa wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:54 pmAnd yet it's more red than Tom Curry's... at least there was a change in height with that tackle... as he was coming out the sky...sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:50 pmNah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.
To be fair, I thought the ref on the pitch was very good and fair tonight.fishfoodie wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:01 pmAt some stage WR will have to respond to the accusations that it's screwing the tier 2/3 teams in decisions; & they'll probably do it when the consequences are minimal to the tier 1 side; like this !sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:50 pmNah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.
Uruguay were tremendous! A bit more luck and they could have won! Some of their play was top notch.. that second try was class...Slick wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:03 pmI agree, think it was the reddest so far. Tucked arm, straight to the head.Grandpa wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:54 pmAnd yet it's more red than Tom Curry's... at least there was a change in height with that tackle... as he was coming out the sky...sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:50 pm
Nah, because it's the world cup. We saw at the last one that a bunch of hits that would have been cast iron reds in domestic competitions earlier in the year were coming up as yellows. The powers that be don't want to 'ruin' the tournament with what's perceived to be too many or unfair cards even if going easy goes against precedent.
My biggest fear is that players on the end of it jumping up and not making a big deal of it are influencing the decision - see also the Kriel hit. We are already getting into the situation of players rolling about to get it looked at and things like this just make it worse. It’s shit.
On another note, well done Uruguay! Those backs looked dangerous and 9 & 12 looked like serious players. They did very well in the the last WC if I remember correctly so another country WR should be throwing cash at.
