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More than 5,300 bodies have been counted in Libya's flood-hit city of Derna so far, a minister for Libya's eastern administration tells the Reuters news agency.

Hichem Abu Chkiouat, minister of civil aviation, says the number of dead is expected to rise, and may even double.

Kiwias wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:00 am A report on Al Jazeera commented that the amount of rain in the last 24 hours was more than the total rainfall over the last 40 years. Hardly surprising that two dams both collapsed under the weight

SaintK wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:01 am

Kiwias wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:00 am A report on Al Jazeera commented that the amount of rain in the last 24 hours was more than the total rainfall over the last 40 years. Hardly surprising that two dams both collapsed under the weight

That is astonishing.
I wonder what the climate change deniers wil put it down to

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:05 am

SaintK wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:01 am

Kiwias wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:00 am A report on Al Jazeera commented that the amount of rain in the last 24 hours was more than the total rainfall over the last 40 years. Hardly surprising that two dams both collapsed under the weight

That is astonishing.
I wonder what the climate change deniers wil put it down to

Well, I'd imagine corruption and lack of maintenance were fairly big factors as well, to be fair. In saying that, if that statement is correct, there probably isn't much that could have helped.

Tichtheid wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:29 am

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:05 am

SaintK wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:01 am
That is astonishing.
I wonder what the climate change deniers wil put it down to

Well, I'd imagine corruption and lack of maintenance were fairly big factors as well, to be fair. In saying that, if that statement is correct, there probably isn't much that could have helped.

As more of these weather catastrophes happen it must become apparent to even the most intransigent climate change deniers that the only thing that can be done is to try to avoid things becoming worse and that means taking action now.

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:39 am

Tichtheid wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:29 am

Slick wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:05 am

Well, I'd imagine corruption and lack of maintenance were fairly big factors as well, to be fair. In saying that, if that statement is correct, there probably isn't much that could have helped.

As more of these weather catastrophes happen it must become apparent to even the most intransigent climate change deniers that the only thing that can be done is to try to avoid things becoming worse and that means taking action now.

You'd certainly hope so. I just don't understand the folk, particularly the ones on social media, who will try throwing out the most bizarre "reasons" rather then just looking at the obvious ones. What really annoys me though is those that are against even the most basic measures, such as LTN's - what on earth is wrong with making the air cleaner even if you don't agree with the bigger picture!

Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:56 am They had a man on the radio this morning who said that he and his extended family all lived in the houses next to each other in a single block, and after the floods came through 30 of his relatives are missing. I have a large extended family and the thought that most of them would be carried off in one fell swoop is horrendous.

assfly wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:11 am They're saying it could hit 20 000 dead

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... death-toll