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Well Done Portugal!

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:53 pm
by Chilli
My favorite team after the Springboks.
Great result.

Re: Well Done Portugal!

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:56 pm
by Gumboot
Yep, they did themselves proud. :thumbup:

Re: Well Done Portugal!

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:00 pm
by convoluted
Could never ever have imagined that it would be Portugal who'd totally reignite my love for rugby.

Re: Well Done Portugal!

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:03 pm
by inactionman
That was very good fun.

And the Portugal hooker's name is Tadjer. What's not to love.



As an aside, I'm still utterly at a loss as to what the TMOs consider a red card offence to be - I really couldn't see the dip into contact mitigation.

Re: Well Done Portugal!

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:06 pm
by ASMO
inactionman wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:03 pm That was very good fun.

And the Portugal hooker's name is Tadjer. What's not to love.



As an aside, I'm still utterly at a loss as to what the TMOs consider a red card offence to be - I really couldn't see the dip into contact mitigation.
The mitigation was the last second change of direction

Re: Well Done Portugal!

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:11 pm
by inactionman
ASMO wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:06 pm
inactionman wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:03 pm That was very good fun.

And the Portugal hooker's name is Tadjer. What's not to love.



As an aside, I'm still utterly at a loss as to what the TMOs consider a red card offence to be - I really couldn't see the dip into contact mitigation.
The mitigation was the last second change of direction
I thought I heard it was a change in height.

I am cloth-eared though.

Without trying to make a big thing of this, I find a change in direction an odd reason to excuse a high tackle.

Re: Well Done Portugal!

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:54 pm
by C69
Well done

Awesome

Re: Well Done Portugal!

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:20 am
by assfly
I would love to see them play more.

Let's hope the Boks can add them as a fixture for their EOYT.

Re: Well Done Portugal!

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:36 am
by Mahoney
inactionman wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:11 pm I thought I heard it was a change in height.

I am cloth-eared though.

Without trying to make a big thing of this, I find a change in direction an odd reason to excuse a high tackle.
I thought this a rather good exemplar of it - if the step doesn't happen, he hits with the shoulder underneath the tackled player's shoulder, and his head doesn't hit at all, so it's a perfectly reasonable legitimate tackle. Because of the step it suddenly becomes a front on tackle and the top of his head collides with the tackled player's chin.

Re: Well Done Portugal!

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:06 am
by inactionman
Mahoney wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:36 am
inactionman wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:11 pm I thought I heard it was a change in height.

I am cloth-eared though.

Without trying to make a big thing of this, I find a change in direction an odd reason to excuse a high tackle.
I thought this a rather good exemplar of it - if the step doesn't happen, he hits with the shoulder underneath the tackled player's shoulder, and his head doesn't hit at all, so it's a perfectly reasonable legitimate tackle. Because of the step it suddenly becomes a front on tackle and the top of his head collides with the tackled player's chin.
Surely we're expecting the ball carrier to be trying to avoid being tackled? I've seen a few reds where the tackler has been caught out by the ballcarier not doing what they expected, although to be fair the most egregious - Steward vs Ireland - was overturned. I'm just a bit confused as to how these are being interpreted.

Anyway, my confusion on interpretations of red cards notwithstanding, I'm glad it didn't detract from a very, very enjoyable match.

Re: Well Done Portugal!

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:36 pm
by Sandstorm
Mahoney wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:36 am
inactionman wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:11 pm I thought I heard it was a change in height.

I am cloth-eared though.

Without trying to make a big thing of this, I find a change in direction an odd reason to excuse a high tackle.
I thought this a rather good exemplar of it - if the step doesn't happen, he hits with the shoulder underneath the tackled player's shoulder, and his head doesn't hit at all, so it's a perfectly reasonable legitimate tackle. Because of the step it suddenly becomes a front on tackle and the top of his head collides with the tackled player's chin.
That's still risky in 2023. Just go lower.