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Au revoir Monsieur Badinter

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:02 am
by laurent
If there was one frenchman to remember

Robert Badinter has passed away.

He was the one to get rid of the death penalty

https://www.lemonde.fr/disparitions/art ... ce=default

In french but what a great man.

Re: Au revoir Monsieur Badinter

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:03 pm
by Tichtheid
An interesting obituary, thanks.

I must admit, I hadn't heard of him before now.

Re: Au revoir Monsieur Badinter

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:06 pm
by Tichtheid
laurent wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:02 am If there was one frenchman to remember

Robert Badinter has passed away.

He was the one to get rid of the death penalty

https://www.lemonde.fr/disparitions/art ... ce=default

In french but what a great man.


I asked a French person on another rugby board what his thoughts were on Badinter and he said this (used with his permission)


Badinter was a brilliant man and the force behind the end of the death penalty here.One of the first, if not the first mesure taken by Mitterrand when elected in 1981.

Short anecdote: no one could call the result, it was so close (he ended up winning by less than 51%) and yet, a week before the election, although he knew the majority was overwvhelmingly in favor of the death penalty, Mitterand proclaimed he would immediately end it if elected. That’s the difference between a statesman and a politician.

Re: Au revoir Monsieur Badinter

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:36 pm
by laurent
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 7:06 pm
laurent wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:02 am If there was one frenchman to remember

Robert Badinter has passed away.

He was the one to get rid of the death penalty

https://www.lemonde.fr/disparitions/art ... ce=default

In french but what a great man.


I asked a French person on another rugby board what his thoughts were on Badinter and he said this (used with his permission)


Badinter was a brilliant man and the force behind the end of the death penalty here.One of the first, if not the first mesure taken by Mitterrand when elected in 1981.

Short anecdote: no one could call the result, it was so close (he ended up winning by less than 51%) and yet, a week before the election, although he knew the majority was overwvhelmingly in favor of the death penalty, Mitterand proclaimed he would immediately end it if elected. That’s the difference between a statesman and a politician.
We are in a very different world now sadly.

Re: Au revoir Monsieur Badinter

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:33 am
by boere wors
The last execution by the guillotine was only in 1979. I would have thought it was abandoned earlier.

Re: Au revoir Monsieur Badinter

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:21 am
by Uncle fester
And in a lot of respects, it was more humane than some of the stuff happening in the US. That experimental nitrogen asphyxiation execution recently was a catastrophe.

Re: Au revoir Monsieur Badinter

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:23 am
by laurent
boere wors wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:33 am The last execution by the guillotine was only in 1979. I would have thought it was abandoned earlier.
Abolished in 1981.

France is very conservative at heart despite its image as a forward thinking country.