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I remember a few years ago the lack of quality coaches used to be such an issue. Now they are all over the world and in high demand. I thought it prudent to have a thread tracking their successes, failures and movements.

ABROAD

Jacques Nienaber (Leinster) - 2nd in URC, just made the Champions Cup final
Sean Everitt (Edinburgh) - 9th in URC
Franco Smith (Glasgow) - 1st in URC
Johan van Graan (Bath) - 3rd in English Premiership
Johan Ackermann (Red Hurricanes, Japan)
Gary Gold (USA)
Frans Ludeke (Kubota Spears, Japan)
Heyneke Meyer (Houston Sabercats, USA)

LOCAL

John Plumtree* ($harks)
John Dobson (Stormers)
Jake White (Bulls)
Ivan Van Rooyen (Lions)
Jimmy Stonehouse (Pumas)
Hawies Fourie (Cheetahs)
Ruan Pienaar (Cheetahs)
Louis Koen (SA Women)

UNATTACHED

Alan Solomons
Allister Coetzee

Other than Nienaber, I wouldn't feel very comfortable with any of those names taking over at the Springboks.

Maybe Franco Smith or Johann Ackermans...maybe.

But I don't know how their working relationships are with Rassie and his management team.

Hope rugby dont follow cricket. Our cricket coaches coach the Proteas into a disaster. Dean Elgar

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/spo ... 860286.cms

What is Brendan Venter up to these days?

Johann van Graan at Bath as well

_Os_ wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 12:53 pm

Needs more gravy.

Blake wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 10:05 am Other than Nienaber, I wouldn't feel very comfortable with any of those names taking over at the Springboks.

Maybe Franco Smith or Johann Ackermans...maybe.

But I don't know how their working relationships are with Rassie and his management team.

You honestly think things are great between Rassie and Nienaber

Sards wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 2:14 pm

Blake wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 10:05 am Other than Nienaber, I wouldn't feel very comfortable with any of those names taking over at the Springboks.

Maybe Franco Smith or Johann Ackermans...maybe.

But I don't know how their working relationships are with Rassie and his management team.

You honestly think things are great between Rassie and Nienaber

Yes.

assfly wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 12:17 pm What is Brendan Venter up to these days?

He is a docter in Somerset West.

https://strandmedical.co.za/

LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 2:24 pm

Sards wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 2:14 pm

Blake wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 10:05 am Other than Nienaber, I wouldn't feel very comfortable with any of those names taking over at the Springboks.

Maybe Franco Smith or Johann Ackermans...maybe.

But I don't know how their working relationships are with Rassie and his management team.

You honestly think things are great between Rassie and Nienaber

Yes.

I am not so sure.
Why are you convinced.
Their split up was sudden. To me that is a sure sign of something being up

Sards wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:02 pm

LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 2:24 pm

Sards wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 2:14 pm

You honestly think things are great between Rassie and Nienaber

Yes.

I am not so sure.
Why are you convinced.
Their split up was sudden. To me that is a sure sign of something being up

Their wife's are best friend. Only reason was Nienaber want to be more with his family. I think he may return before the next WC.

Just added Johan van Graan at Bath.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:16 pm

Sards wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:02 pm

LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 2:24 pm
Yes.

I am not so sure.
Why are you convinced.
Their split up was sudden. To me that is a sure sign of something being up

Their wife's are best friend. Only reason was Nienaber want to be more with his family. I think he may return before the next WC.

My wife has a best friend and I can't stand the guy. But he doesn't have to be my friend. We just ignore each other and it works fine

Sards wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 1:24 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:16 pm

Sards wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:02 pm

I am not so sure.
Why are you convinced.
Their split up was sudden. To me that is a sure sign of something being up

Their wife's are best friend. Only reason was Nienaber want to be more with his family. I think he may return before the next WC.

My wife has a best friend and I can't stand the guy. But he doesn't have to be my friend. We just ignore each other and it works fine

There are a massive difference if your wife is friends with het skelmpie. Understand your hate for the guy.

OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 2:34 pm

Sards wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 1:24 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:16 pm

Their wife's are best friend. Only reason was Nienaber want to be more with his family. I think he may return before the next WC.

My wife has a best friend and I can't stand the guy. But he doesn't have to be my friend. We just ignore each other and it works fine

There are a massive difference if your wife is friends with het skelmpie. Understand your hate for the guy.

Oom and Sards wife sitting in a tree...

Added Ruan Pienaar too, but let's see how he gets on.

Any big names coaching in Varsity Cup?

And what is Snor up to these days?

assfly wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 8:41 am Added Ruan Pienaar too, but let's see how he gets on.

Any big names coaching in Varsity Cup?

And what is Snor up to these days?

Wasn't he trying his hand at being a politician? I recall reading somewhere recently that he was suspended for alleged sexual misconduct.

LoveOfTheGame wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 9:14 am

assfly wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 8:41 am Added Ruan Pienaar too, but let's see how he gets on.

Any big names coaching in Varsity Cup?

And what is Snor up to these days?

Wasn't he trying his hand at being a politician? I recall reading somewhere recently that he was suspended for alleged sexual misconduct.

Ruan Pienaar?

duke wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 12:38 pm Johann van Graan at Bath as well

He's doing very well, he took an admittedly hugely underperforming squad (being honest, he inherited a shitshow) and got them playing well on both sides of the ball - helped by sensible appointments such as Lee Blackett, granted, but he's got everyone pulling in the same direction.

His contract has been extended to 2030, which seems bit premature to me but shows the regard he's held in.

Sandstorm wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 9:15 am Ruan Pienaar?

He's got FF+ written all over him

inactionman wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 9:22 am His contract has been extended to 2030, which seems bit premature to me but shows the regard he's held in.

That's incredible.

Nice to see them investing in him. I wonder if he wins the Premiership if he'll suddenly be on Rassie's radar.

Frans Steyn

OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 1:57 pm Frans Steyn

He's more of a director of rugby.

Anybody know what Rob du Preez is up to?

Sards wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 2:14 pm

Blake wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 10:05 am Other than Nienaber, I wouldn't feel very comfortable with any of those names taking over at the Springboks.

Maybe Franco Smith or Johann Ackermans...maybe.

But I don't know how their working relationships are with Rassie and his management team.

You honestly think things are great between Rassie and Nienaber

Very good yes.

Sards wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:02 pm

LoveOfTheGame wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 2:24 pm

Sards wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 2:14 pm

You honestly think things are great between Rassie and Nienaber

Yes.

I am not so sure.
Why are you convinced.
Their split up was sudden. To me that is a sure sign of something being up

Nienaber has stated that the only reason for the break was a desire to spend more time with family.
His family life took a helluva hit over the last 4 years.

While acting as an international coach he is away from his family the majority of the time, and feels like he neglected his family.
When you drop 1 level to URC, you have a home base and only have to travel for a prolonged period for the SA leg of the season.
The rest of the time you get to go home to your family every night and in Europe the away matches are just 1 or 2 nights away from home.

Here's the interview:
It's 5 minutes and I've timestamped it for you.

Not a bad couple of weeks for SA coaches.

Franco Smith masterminds Glasgow's first URC championship.

Johan van Graan runner up in the English premiership.

assfly wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:31 pm Not a bad couple of weeks for SA coaches.

Franco Smith masterminds Glasgow's first URC championship.

Johan van Graan runner up in the English premiership.

I was just thinking - Didn’t Italy get rid of Smith? Not sure I understood at the time why they did this. But they do seem to be a bit impatient sometimes and let coaches go while they seem to be building some good progress.